comment by RRRU-ben a-moo-REENG (U17054)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by manutd1982 (U6633)
posted 1 minute ago
‘Guirassy, Morata, Toney, Jonathon David’
Morata rarely scores and was poor in the PL for Chelsea, Toney’s ok but his numbers are inflated with pens and his wage would have been very high (same with Morata). Guirassy would have been a gamble while I do like the look of David but no way was he available for that little.
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Morata is not a player you build towards the future with. Guirassy and Toney probably aren’t either, and at least Toney would have demanded insane wages.
With Toney we’d have ended up with a player with no resale value (or even possibility of shifting) on £300k per week for five years. Exactly the kind of deal which has helped land us in this shiiiite.
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You need ready made players though. It’s madness to think a bunch of kids will all grow together and get us to where we need to be. SAF was a master of having players of all age groups when building sides. I’m sure people would have said signing Teddy was a bad idea at the time.
I've said it before. He works so hard, but he has limited abilities. As a big lad, he doesn't have the calmness and finishing of Chris Wood, or his heading ability, strength nor any other skills. He's either too slow or too quick for receiving the pass or cross.
comment by RB&W - Our representative on the pitch (U21434)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Tyranny of the majority (SE85) (U21241)
posted 34 seconds ago
Man United are a fecking mess heading for the basement trapdoor. And yes, we supporters do know that Ruben. And its not an option. So get some points on the facking board, sharpish.
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If you could guarantee me the Glazers and the debt would disappear if we got relegated I'd take that offer 7 days a week and twice on Sunday.
There's no great future for the football club just hovering around midtable with £800m debt and loonies still running the show.
If it takes a relegation to get through this period and get rid of them once and for all then sign me up. The pain it will cause will be worth it. Obviously the big caveat to that is we go down and they still don't leave which would be absolutely disastrous. However I don't think they'd have a choice personally. They'd have to sell up as their business model doesn't work without PL income and European incomes consistently.
Grim times indeed.....but sadly this has been coming for 11 years. It's been creeping up on us every summer with disastrous signing after disastrous signing.
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Lets be clear about this.
Relegation to The Championship would be a financial disaster for MUFC in this day and age of global PL and UEFA money, prestiege, sponsorship, publicity, players image rights all funded by corporate patronage and worldwide TV subscription money etc.
Its not an option really. And also the future of Man United is not about the credibility of RA also. All this 'there is no going back' crap, and 'whatever the consequences' and 'if I am told I have to change (to win games) then they will need a new coach'.... WTF?
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If we actually end up in a relegation battle, how many in this squad do you trust to get us out of it?
I struggle to look at more than 5 who have the sense of accountability to be up for the fight.
I saw something today that may have some weight - that the manager lost the players when he said there was going to be some pain to come. And also when he took on Rashford
When he gets the service he scores. When he doesn't he doesn't. It's not hard to understand.
We play in front of defences, rarely if ever getting the ball behind. And to top it all off slow in every attack.
comment by RB&W - Our representative on the pitch (U21434)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Tyranny of the majority (SE85) (U21241)
posted 34 seconds ago
Man United are a fecking mess heading for the basement trapdoor. And yes, we supporters do know that Ruben. And its not an option. So get some points on the facking board, sharpish.
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If you could guarantee me the Glazers and the debt would disappear if we got relegated I'd take that offer 7 days a week and twice on Sunday.
There's no great future for the football club just hovering around midtable with £800m debt and loonies still running the show.
If it takes a relegation to get through this period and get rid of them once and for all then sign me up. The pain it will cause will be worth it. Obviously the big caveat to that is we go down and they still don't leave which would be absolutely disastrous. However I don't think they'd have a choice personally. They'd have to sell up as their business model doesn't work without PL income and European incomes consistently.
Grim times indeed.....but sadly this has been coming for 11 years. It's been creeping up on us every summer with disastrous signing after disastrous signing.
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Lets be clear about this.
Relegation to The Championship would be a financial disaster for MUFC in this day and age of global PL and UEFA money, prestiege, sponsorship, publicity, players image rights all funded by corporate patronage and worldwide TV subscription money etc.
Its not an option really. And also the future of Man United is not about the credibility of RA also. All this 'there is no going back' crap, and 'whatever the consequences' and 'if I am told I have to change (to win games) then they will need a new coach'.... WTF?
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It will be financial disaster? Good! I hope it is.
The bigger crisis it is the more likely they will leave.
We will come again and have to rebuild the club and hopefully under people who don't use United as a piggy bank to take dividends out.
Rob
I agree we need ready made players over young prospects but for £30m I’m not sure what there was out there. I personally wouldn’t have gone for Toney and at the time wasn’t sure the money spent on Hojlund was wise. I’m sure there are/were better deals out there, I just do t know them and I’m not sure the names mentioned would have solved things.
Lets be clear about this.
Relegation to The Championship would be a financial disaster for MUFC in this day and age of global PL and UEFA money, prestiege, sponsorship, publicity, players image rights all funded by corporate patronage and worldwide TV subscription money etc.
Its not an option really. And also the future of Man United is not about the credibility of RA also. All this 'there is no going back' crap, and 'whatever the consequences' and 'if I am told I have to change (to win games) then they will need a new coach'.... WTF?
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Sounds like you're not fond of Ruben.
Also I completely disagree about what you say in regard to relegation.
Plenty of clubs have gone down and come up, Newcastle twice actually.
This club is far too big to suffer disaster, as you say.
What relegation might help with is offloading a lot of high earners at the club, aiding in balancing the books.
Just think, in an alternative universe Ashworth stayed with us and brought in Sir Gareth Southgate
comment by RB&W - Our representative on the pitch (U21434)
posted 16 minutes ago
comment by Tyranny of the majority (SE85) (U21241)
posted 34 seconds ago
Man United are a fecking mess heading for the basement trapdoor. And yes, we supporters do know that Ruben. And its not an option. So get some points on the facking board, sharpish.
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If you could guarantee me the Glazers and the debt would disappear if we got relegated I'd take that offer 7 days a week and twice on Sunday.
There's no great future for the football club just hovering around midtable with £800m debt and loonies still running the show.
If it takes a relegation to get through this period and get rid of them once and for all then sign me up. The pain it will cause will be worth it. Obviously the big caveat to that is we go down and they still don't leave which would be absolutely disastrous. However I don't think they'd have a choice personally. They'd have to sell up as their business model doesn't work without PL income and European incomes consistently.
Grim times indeed.....but sadly this has been coming for 11 years. It's been creeping up on us every summer with disastrous signing after disastrous signing.
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Lets be clear about this.
Relegation to The Championship would be a financial disaster for MUFC in this day and age of global PL and UEFA money, prestiege, sponsorship, publicity, players image rights all funded by corporate patronage and worldwide TV subscription money etc.
Its not an option really. And also the future of Man United is not about the credibility of RA also. All this 'there is no going back' crap, and 'whatever the consequences' and 'if I am told I have to change (to win games) then they will need a new coach'.... WTF?
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He told them this before he came in. They apparently accepted it. It’s now their responsibility to support him.
I don’t know that United’s brand equity is still sufficient that the club would bounce back quickly from relegation.
I certainly wouldn’t buy United if if we’re a billionaire. West Ham, with its rented stadium and location in the capital would be a better buy.
comment by Robb - Paddystinian 🫶 (U22716)
posted 14 minutes ago
comment by RRRU-ben a-moo-REENG (U17054)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by manutd1982 (U6633)
posted 1 minute ago
‘Guirassy, Morata, Toney, Jonathon David’
Morata rarely scores and was poor in the PL for Chelsea, Toney’s ok but his numbers are inflated with pens and his wage would have been very high (same with Morata). Guirassy would have been a gamble while I do like the look of David but no way was he available for that little.
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Morata is not a player you build towards the future with. Guirassy and Toney probably aren’t either, and at least Toney would have demanded insane wages.
With Toney we’d have ended up with a player with no resale value (or even possibility of shifting) on £300k per week for five years. Exactly the kind of deal which has helped land us in this shiiiite.
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You need ready made players though. It’s madness to think a bunch of kids will all grow together and get us to where we need to be. SAF was a master of having players of all age groups when building sides. I’m sure people would have said signing Teddy was a bad idea at the time.
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But you’re talking about completely different scenarios. That was taking a great side, and keeping it great.
What we’re doing now is taking a failed, Frankenstein squad, gutting it, and, looking four or five years to the future, building a new one with (hopefully) a new attitude and new profile, whilst having very, very little to spend.
We cannot be spending £60m on any given player, or paying anyone £250k per week. We’re going to have to operate differently. There isn’t really any choice in that.
Rasmus seems a good lad and the type of character we need but sadly he just doesn’t have the basic skill set to be a prem striker.
As Neville said last night we are the worst pound for pound team now in the prem so who knows maybe he could blossom in the Chamoionship
comment by RB&W - Our representative on the pitch (U21434)
posted 47 minutes ago
Hojlands ineffectiveness as a CF is just a sympton/part of the big problem at the club.
His first touch holding the ball up has become like a back pass and he doesnt seem to have the pace and strength to turn and burst away.
Hes a young lad who was thrown to the lions as our only CF when they bought him. He should be learning the game and benefit from working with other experienced top class CFs who he could play/rotate with. Who is actually coaching him?
One big problem amongst many, many more. Man United are a fecking mess heading for the basement trapdoor. And yes, we supporters do know that Ruben. And its not an option. So get some points on the facking board, sharpish.
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What? Wasn't he pinning schar and turning him constantly? Schar was lucky he didn't get the yellow card sooner when hoijlund kept bullying him
comment by Franko Cantona (U22187)
posted 28 seconds ago
Rasmus seems a good lad and the type of character we need but sadly he just doesn’t have the basic skill set to be a prem striker.
As Neville said last night we are the worst pound for pound team now in the prem so who knows maybe he could blossom in the Chamoionship
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Kind of sums up why I maintain that Gyorkeres would be a disastrous signing.
Tier 2 bully.
comment by Robb - Paddystinian 🫶 (U22716)
posted 10 minutes ago
Just think, in an alternative universe Ashworth stayed with us and brought in Sir Gareth Southgate
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Or Qatar bought us fecking all the Glazers off in the process and already clearing the debt.
comment by Ali - 🇪🇦 🏴 (U1192)
posted 43 seconds ago
Lets be clear about this.
Relegation to The Championship would be a financial disaster for MUFC in this day and age of global PL and UEFA money, prestiege, sponsorship, publicity, players image rights all funded by corporate patronage and worldwide TV subscription money etc.
Its not an option really. And also the future of Man United is not about the credibility of RA also. All this 'there is no going back' crap, and 'whatever the consequences' and 'if I am told I have to change (to win games) then they will need a new coach'.... WTF?
----
Sounds like you're not fond of Ruben.
Also I completely disagree about what you say in regard to relegation.
Plenty of clubs have gone down and come up, Newcastle twice actually.
This club is far too big to suffer disaster, as you say.
What relegation might help with is offloading a lot of high earners at the club, aiding in balancing the books.
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Actually Im happy with RA. But he might not have enough games left this season whwrw resulkts dont matter to achieve what he is doing. Therefore he might have to be pragmatic occassionally in games to get to the safety of summer where he can regroup with his new players and start again.
I am behind RA.... and I like him. Not so sure about Jim and his INEOS team recently. But killing the goose that layed the golden egg on the journey isnt the answer, for anybody concerned... the owners, the playing staff and coaches, the regular employees at the club, the loyal supporters who turn out every week and the corporate patrons and sponsors..... Is it?
SJR is treating the club like a 4 bedroom Edwardian townhouse.
He’s going to strip it bare, divide it into 4 flats, move in some immigrant families (attract minority share investment) to make meagre profits, borrow against the asset to fund other ventures and hand it off to an agency to manage the day to day hassle so that he can forget about it as long as the money keeps flowing or until he needs to sell.
We’d have been better off selling to the Bank of ISIS.
Hojlund is just a mystifying player. I watch him and I think he's got a lot of the tools necessary to be a good striker. But he just doesn't seem to use those abilities well enough.
Lack of brains, or experience or maybe both.
comment by Tu Meke (U3732)
posted 5 seconds ago
Hojlund is just a mystifying player. I watch him and I think he's got a lot of the tools necessary to be a good striker. But he just doesn't seem to use those abilities well enough.
Lack of brains, or experience or maybe both.
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lack of quality coaching
Hojlund should be an understudy to someone like Harry Kane, who can show him what it means to be a top striker.
Instead, he’s learning off coaches who’ve never played at the top level.
Let’s remember, our midfield pairing last night are taking over £500k a week in salaries. Both over 30, neither can outrun a hedgehog,
comment by He’s French, He’s Flash… (U9335)
posted 30 seconds ago
Hojlund should be an understudy to someone like Harry Kane, who can show him what it means to be a top striker.
Instead, he’s learning off coaches who’ve never played at the top level.
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Ruud had a go with him recently
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 33 seconds ago
Let’s remember, our midfield pairing last night are taking over £500k a week in salaries. Both over 30, neither can outrun a hedgehog,
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Quite.
This is hard to fathom who we actually got here.
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 39 seconds ago
Let’s remember, our midfield pairing last night are taking over £500k a week in salaries. Both over 30, neither can outrun a hedgehog,
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Not many can outrun sonic tbf
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posted on 31/12/24
comment by RRRU-ben a-moo-REENG (U17054)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by manutd1982 (U6633)
posted 1 minute ago
‘Guirassy, Morata, Toney, Jonathon David’
Morata rarely scores and was poor in the PL for Chelsea, Toney’s ok but his numbers are inflated with pens and his wage would have been very high (same with Morata). Guirassy would have been a gamble while I do like the look of David but no way was he available for that little.
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Morata is not a player you build towards the future with. Guirassy and Toney probably aren’t either, and at least Toney would have demanded insane wages.
With Toney we’d have ended up with a player with no resale value (or even possibility of shifting) on £300k per week for five years. Exactly the kind of deal which has helped land us in this shiiiite.
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You need ready made players though. It’s madness to think a bunch of kids will all grow together and get us to where we need to be. SAF was a master of having players of all age groups when building sides. I’m sure people would have said signing Teddy was a bad idea at the time.
posted on 31/12/24
I've said it before. He works so hard, but he has limited abilities. As a big lad, he doesn't have the calmness and finishing of Chris Wood, or his heading ability, strength nor any other skills. He's either too slow or too quick for receiving the pass or cross.
posted on 31/12/24
comment by RB&W - Our representative on the pitch (U21434)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Tyranny of the majority (SE85) (U21241)
posted 34 seconds ago
Man United are a fecking mess heading for the basement trapdoor. And yes, we supporters do know that Ruben. And its not an option. So get some points on the facking board, sharpish.
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If you could guarantee me the Glazers and the debt would disappear if we got relegated I'd take that offer 7 days a week and twice on Sunday.
There's no great future for the football club just hovering around midtable with £800m debt and loonies still running the show.
If it takes a relegation to get through this period and get rid of them once and for all then sign me up. The pain it will cause will be worth it. Obviously the big caveat to that is we go down and they still don't leave which would be absolutely disastrous. However I don't think they'd have a choice personally. They'd have to sell up as their business model doesn't work without PL income and European incomes consistently.
Grim times indeed.....but sadly this has been coming for 11 years. It's been creeping up on us every summer with disastrous signing after disastrous signing.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Lets be clear about this.
Relegation to The Championship would be a financial disaster for MUFC in this day and age of global PL and UEFA money, prestiege, sponsorship, publicity, players image rights all funded by corporate patronage and worldwide TV subscription money etc.
Its not an option really. And also the future of Man United is not about the credibility of RA also. All this 'there is no going back' crap, and 'whatever the consequences' and 'if I am told I have to change (to win games) then they will need a new coach'.... WTF?
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If we actually end up in a relegation battle, how many in this squad do you trust to get us out of it?
I struggle to look at more than 5 who have the sense of accountability to be up for the fight.
posted on 31/12/24
I saw something today that may have some weight - that the manager lost the players when he said there was going to be some pain to come. And also when he took on Rashford
posted on 31/12/24
When he gets the service he scores. When he doesn't he doesn't. It's not hard to understand.
We play in front of defences, rarely if ever getting the ball behind. And to top it all off slow in every attack.
posted on 31/12/24
comment by RB&W - Our representative on the pitch (U21434)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Tyranny of the majority (SE85) (U21241)
posted 34 seconds ago
Man United are a fecking mess heading for the basement trapdoor. And yes, we supporters do know that Ruben. And its not an option. So get some points on the facking board, sharpish.
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If you could guarantee me the Glazers and the debt would disappear if we got relegated I'd take that offer 7 days a week and twice on Sunday.
There's no great future for the football club just hovering around midtable with £800m debt and loonies still running the show.
If it takes a relegation to get through this period and get rid of them once and for all then sign me up. The pain it will cause will be worth it. Obviously the big caveat to that is we go down and they still don't leave which would be absolutely disastrous. However I don't think they'd have a choice personally. They'd have to sell up as their business model doesn't work without PL income and European incomes consistently.
Grim times indeed.....but sadly this has been coming for 11 years. It's been creeping up on us every summer with disastrous signing after disastrous signing.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Lets be clear about this.
Relegation to The Championship would be a financial disaster for MUFC in this day and age of global PL and UEFA money, prestiege, sponsorship, publicity, players image rights all funded by corporate patronage and worldwide TV subscription money etc.
Its not an option really. And also the future of Man United is not about the credibility of RA also. All this 'there is no going back' crap, and 'whatever the consequences' and 'if I am told I have to change (to win games) then they will need a new coach'.... WTF?
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It will be financial disaster? Good! I hope it is.
The bigger crisis it is the more likely they will leave.
We will come again and have to rebuild the club and hopefully under people who don't use United as a piggy bank to take dividends out.
posted on 31/12/24
Rob
I agree we need ready made players over young prospects but for £30m I’m not sure what there was out there. I personally wouldn’t have gone for Toney and at the time wasn’t sure the money spent on Hojlund was wise. I’m sure there are/were better deals out there, I just do t know them and I’m not sure the names mentioned would have solved things.
posted on 31/12/24
Lets be clear about this.
Relegation to The Championship would be a financial disaster for MUFC in this day and age of global PL and UEFA money, prestiege, sponsorship, publicity, players image rights all funded by corporate patronage and worldwide TV subscription money etc.
Its not an option really. And also the future of Man United is not about the credibility of RA also. All this 'there is no going back' crap, and 'whatever the consequences' and 'if I am told I have to change (to win games) then they will need a new coach'.... WTF?
----
Sounds like you're not fond of Ruben.
Also I completely disagree about what you say in regard to relegation.
Plenty of clubs have gone down and come up, Newcastle twice actually.
This club is far too big to suffer disaster, as you say.
What relegation might help with is offloading a lot of high earners at the club, aiding in balancing the books.
posted on 31/12/24
Just think, in an alternative universe Ashworth stayed with us and brought in Sir Gareth Southgate
posted on 31/12/24
comment by RB&W - Our representative on the pitch (U21434)
posted 16 minutes ago
comment by Tyranny of the majority (SE85) (U21241)
posted 34 seconds ago
Man United are a fecking mess heading for the basement trapdoor. And yes, we supporters do know that Ruben. And its not an option. So get some points on the facking board, sharpish.
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If you could guarantee me the Glazers and the debt would disappear if we got relegated I'd take that offer 7 days a week and twice on Sunday.
There's no great future for the football club just hovering around midtable with £800m debt and loonies still running the show.
If it takes a relegation to get through this period and get rid of them once and for all then sign me up. The pain it will cause will be worth it. Obviously the big caveat to that is we go down and they still don't leave which would be absolutely disastrous. However I don't think they'd have a choice personally. They'd have to sell up as their business model doesn't work without PL income and European incomes consistently.
Grim times indeed.....but sadly this has been coming for 11 years. It's been creeping up on us every summer with disastrous signing after disastrous signing.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Lets be clear about this.
Relegation to The Championship would be a financial disaster for MUFC in this day and age of global PL and UEFA money, prestiege, sponsorship, publicity, players image rights all funded by corporate patronage and worldwide TV subscription money etc.
Its not an option really. And also the future of Man United is not about the credibility of RA also. All this 'there is no going back' crap, and 'whatever the consequences' and 'if I am told I have to change (to win games) then they will need a new coach'.... WTF?
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He told them this before he came in. They apparently accepted it. It’s now their responsibility to support him.
posted on 31/12/24
I don’t know that United’s brand equity is still sufficient that the club would bounce back quickly from relegation.
I certainly wouldn’t buy United if if we’re a billionaire. West Ham, with its rented stadium and location in the capital would be a better buy.
posted on 31/12/24
comment by Robb - Paddystinian 🫶 (U22716)
posted 14 minutes ago
comment by RRRU-ben a-moo-REENG (U17054)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by manutd1982 (U6633)
posted 1 minute ago
‘Guirassy, Morata, Toney, Jonathon David’
Morata rarely scores and was poor in the PL for Chelsea, Toney’s ok but his numbers are inflated with pens and his wage would have been very high (same with Morata). Guirassy would have been a gamble while I do like the look of David but no way was he available for that little.
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Morata is not a player you build towards the future with. Guirassy and Toney probably aren’t either, and at least Toney would have demanded insane wages.
With Toney we’d have ended up with a player with no resale value (or even possibility of shifting) on £300k per week for five years. Exactly the kind of deal which has helped land us in this shiiiite.
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You need ready made players though. It’s madness to think a bunch of kids will all grow together and get us to where we need to be. SAF was a master of having players of all age groups when building sides. I’m sure people would have said signing Teddy was a bad idea at the time.
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But you’re talking about completely different scenarios. That was taking a great side, and keeping it great.
What we’re doing now is taking a failed, Frankenstein squad, gutting it, and, looking four or five years to the future, building a new one with (hopefully) a new attitude and new profile, whilst having very, very little to spend.
We cannot be spending £60m on any given player, or paying anyone £250k per week. We’re going to have to operate differently. There isn’t really any choice in that.
posted on 31/12/24
Rasmus seems a good lad and the type of character we need but sadly he just doesn’t have the basic skill set to be a prem striker.
As Neville said last night we are the worst pound for pound team now in the prem so who knows maybe he could blossom in the Chamoionship
posted on 31/12/24
comment by RB&W - Our representative on the pitch (U21434)
posted 47 minutes ago
Hojlands ineffectiveness as a CF is just a sympton/part of the big problem at the club.
His first touch holding the ball up has become like a back pass and he doesnt seem to have the pace and strength to turn and burst away.
Hes a young lad who was thrown to the lions as our only CF when they bought him. He should be learning the game and benefit from working with other experienced top class CFs who he could play/rotate with. Who is actually coaching him?
One big problem amongst many, many more. Man United are a fecking mess heading for the basement trapdoor. And yes, we supporters do know that Ruben. And its not an option. So get some points on the facking board, sharpish.
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What? Wasn't he pinning schar and turning him constantly? Schar was lucky he didn't get the yellow card sooner when hoijlund kept bullying him
posted on 31/12/24
comment by Franko Cantona (U22187)
posted 28 seconds ago
Rasmus seems a good lad and the type of character we need but sadly he just doesn’t have the basic skill set to be a prem striker.
As Neville said last night we are the worst pound for pound team now in the prem so who knows maybe he could blossom in the Chamoionship
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Kind of sums up why I maintain that Gyorkeres would be a disastrous signing.
Tier 2 bully.
posted on 31/12/24
comment by Robb - Paddystinian 🫶 (U22716)
posted 10 minutes ago
Just think, in an alternative universe Ashworth stayed with us and brought in Sir Gareth Southgate
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Or Qatar bought us fecking all the Glazers off in the process and already clearing the debt.
posted on 31/12/24
comment by Ali - 🇪🇦 🏴 (U1192)
posted 43 seconds ago
Lets be clear about this.
Relegation to The Championship would be a financial disaster for MUFC in this day and age of global PL and UEFA money, prestiege, sponsorship, publicity, players image rights all funded by corporate patronage and worldwide TV subscription money etc.
Its not an option really. And also the future of Man United is not about the credibility of RA also. All this 'there is no going back' crap, and 'whatever the consequences' and 'if I am told I have to change (to win games) then they will need a new coach'.... WTF?
----
Sounds like you're not fond of Ruben.
Also I completely disagree about what you say in regard to relegation.
Plenty of clubs have gone down and come up, Newcastle twice actually.
This club is far too big to suffer disaster, as you say.
What relegation might help with is offloading a lot of high earners at the club, aiding in balancing the books.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Actually Im happy with RA. But he might not have enough games left this season whwrw resulkts dont matter to achieve what he is doing. Therefore he might have to be pragmatic occassionally in games to get to the safety of summer where he can regroup with his new players and start again.
I am behind RA.... and I like him. Not so sure about Jim and his INEOS team recently. But killing the goose that layed the golden egg on the journey isnt the answer, for anybody concerned... the owners, the playing staff and coaches, the regular employees at the club, the loyal supporters who turn out every week and the corporate patrons and sponsors..... Is it?
posted on 31/12/24
SJR is treating the club like a 4 bedroom Edwardian townhouse.
He’s going to strip it bare, divide it into 4 flats, move in some immigrant families (attract minority share investment) to make meagre profits, borrow against the asset to fund other ventures and hand it off to an agency to manage the day to day hassle so that he can forget about it as long as the money keeps flowing or until he needs to sell.
We’d have been better off selling to the Bank of ISIS.
posted on 31/12/24
Hojlund is just a mystifying player. I watch him and I think he's got a lot of the tools necessary to be a good striker. But he just doesn't seem to use those abilities well enough.
Lack of brains, or experience or maybe both.
posted on 31/12/24
comment by Tu Meke (U3732)
posted 5 seconds ago
Hojlund is just a mystifying player. I watch him and I think he's got a lot of the tools necessary to be a good striker. But he just doesn't seem to use those abilities well enough.
Lack of brains, or experience or maybe both.
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lack of quality coaching
posted on 31/12/24
Hojlund should be an understudy to someone like Harry Kane, who can show him what it means to be a top striker.
Instead, he’s learning off coaches who’ve never played at the top level.
posted on 31/12/24
Let’s remember, our midfield pairing last night are taking over £500k a week in salaries. Both over 30, neither can outrun a hedgehog,
posted on 31/12/24
comment by He’s French, He’s Flash… (U9335)
posted 30 seconds ago
Hojlund should be an understudy to someone like Harry Kane, who can show him what it means to be a top striker.
Instead, he’s learning off coaches who’ve never played at the top level.
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Ruud had a go with him recently
posted on 31/12/24
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 33 seconds ago
Let’s remember, our midfield pairing last night are taking over £500k a week in salaries. Both over 30, neither can outrun a hedgehog,
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Quite.
This is hard to fathom who we actually got here.
posted on 31/12/24
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 39 seconds ago
Let’s remember, our midfield pairing last night are taking over £500k a week in salaries. Both over 30, neither can outrun a hedgehog,
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Not many can outrun sonic tbf
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