Pretty sure his own fans have always been fed up of him even though he’s achieved promotion with 2 teams. It’s painfully dull. Always have been, always will be.
Should put a few criticisms of our football into perspective. That being said, Farke could and should have done more last night too. As soon as I saw Gruev in I knew it wasn’t going to happen. Would have understood if we also brought in Firpo and Grueve was there to cover for him bombing forward.
I don’t think there’s any need for a change in the points system, Parker is an exception to the general ethos of success at the moment. We had George Graham before but it’s not often a side plays that defensively when ambitions are higher up the table.
Football is all about the emotion ain’t it. Why we will probably never have a better time than Bielsa. We mill hopefully have more success but that emotion and journey will be very difficult to replicate.
I don’t think there’s any need for a change in the points system, Parker is an exception to the general ethos of success at the moment.
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Yeah your right, plus I think it probably bring more problems, than Solutions.
The Bielsa era and covid lockdowns, changed how I think about football and Life in general.
I just do not believe in unwarranted negativity.
I cleaned a coffee stain on my dad’s carpet at 715pm.
On 75 minutes we were glancing over at the carpet to see how it was looking dryer.
Not often I get butterflies leading up to a game. This one was huge. Whilst the result was decent the game was absolute dire. May as well have shook hands on a draw post match and turn the lights off
Didn't think Gruev was a bad call bearing in mind we were the away team and having watched Burnley absolutely destroy Plymouth, with Jaidon Anthony being heavily involved.
The reality of last night was that the home team decided to defend like a non league team against a EPL side and try and nick it on the break.
In summary that lack of ambition deserves nothing - dreadful and cynical.
thankfully, missed the game.. when I'd checked the score afterwards I thought, oh 0-0, well that's not a bad result..
started to read reports of the game... and drifted off to sleep, seems fitting.
I find watching a lot of the big teams a bit boring too.. I think back to the early 90's.. games seemed much more end to end.. stuff seemed to happen in games.. now it seems we tune in to watch City short pass it around for 90 mins..
I think in all honesty, by trying to make beautiful game more beautiful over the years, its now so beautiful its almost boring...
Wearing two coats is mad.
Felt like only one side truly trying to win the game, the other trying to pinch a win.
I'd have taken a draw, but boy it took some watching.
Not for the first time in JA history, you've made me cough up some coffee with this ....
"You’ve got a manager, earning Millons, in four grand coats, stood on touchline, with a shiitt eating grin, thinking he’s some tactial genius."
Perfect summary.
Have to agree with everyone on here. Burnley are just a horrible team with a horrible manager and they suck the life out of you!
At least we tried to win the game by playing football. They just did what they do every game - defend and hope for a break.
Only complaint I have is that one or two of our players took the easy option rather than take a shot when they had the chance.
Other than that it was a decent performance against a team that obviously know how to defend (they’ve had enough practice!).
On to Saturday.
Whilst I agree with the sentiment of the thread. The most alarming point is that he paid 4 grand for that coat.
Excellent article and totally agree with every point made.
Parker's done nothing to me personally and I don't know what it is, but I just can't get past the chiselled chin, nerdy cardigans and businessman's shirt and tie.
That's a comment, perhaps unfair, about him, but his football ethics leave a lot to be desired.
Didn't see the match but 11 0-0 draws in 29 games is not what the paying public should be subjected to. Football is a sport, yes, but it's also about entertainment, ambition and, as you say, a moral obligation to put on the best show possible for everyone watching. It doesn't always work out like that but all these goal-less draws are not coincidence - they're deliberate by way of the manner in which the manager sets his team up to play.
This reminds me of George Graham when he first took over Leeds. He shored up the defence and we also played out 0-0 draws galore. It was mind-numbingly terrible to watch. At the end of the season we finished with the least number of points of any team to survive relegation - a record at the time, not sure if it still isn't.
It's disappointing to think that just one goal last night by us would have condemned them to their third defeat of the season, taken their goals conceded total into double figures and also stretched our lead at the top.
I sincerely hope that Burnley's run catches up with them and they bottle it. I don't care who goes up with us (assuming we do), as long as it's not Burnley.
Five stars from me.
Perfect summary LIW.
We knew that this was going to be a hard watch but was 10 times worse than I imagined. i heard it was their 9th 0-0 draw this season which is brutal.
Saying that i thought we should have done better. Our passing was terrible particularly where it should have counted and don't start me on our free kicks and corners.
On the bright side, if we go up and Burnley don't, we know where we can pick up a few defenders if we need them...
5 stars from me. Agree 100%.
Another 5 stars for this:
"Football is probably the greatest escapism in the world. Doesnt matter your upto your eyeballs on debt, doesnt matter you have depression, doesnt matter your best mate is poking your wife. For that 90 mins, nothing else matters."
On Parker. Never liked the tw4t. We played Fulham
years ago and Parker was in the middle for them.
Can't remember who tackled him (maybe Kalvin) but,
they hit him so hard he did a mid air cart wheel. Parker
looked so confused when he got up from it. Spent the
next 5 minutes of the match struggling to redo his hair.
He's that big of a vain pr 1 ck.
I'm happy with the point. Happier that I get to watch
us week in week out. And not them.
If that gets them promotion so be it. I agree with the article completely. Then again, they were coming up against a 100 million + super squad, what were they expected to do against that kind of firepower They weren't ever going to out play us. They've taken 4 points off the best/overpowered team in the division. Job done on there part....
hmm, not saying Parker at top of Christmas card list, didn't even rate him as a player, and as a manager he's extremely dull.... but appears to be a lot jealousy here... a lot of assumptions made about him due to his appearance.
chiselled jaw, businessman cloths, clean appearance, 4 grand coat... why would anyone want to be like that eh?
maybe some of lot need to get to the gym, start shaving and save up for a decent coat...
we had the same with a ref last year, people calling him vein because he's in good shape... 'he's on the steds, he's vein.. do me a favour.
in todays world, you can't make assumptions about someone if he's unshaven, wears a crap coat - totally fine to assume he's a vein b7stard because he in decent nick.
have a little word with ya selfs
It takes two to tango Farke played his part last night. When I saw Firpo and Rothwell not in the lineup I knew we decided 0-0 was good enough. Most likely Farke thought we don't have the skill to break down this negative wall so a point will do. One shot on target tells the tale.
comment by montleeds (U18330)
posted 18 minutes ago
It takes two to tango Farke played his part last night. When I saw Firpo and Rothwell not in the lineup I knew we decided 0-0 was good enough. Most likely Farke thought we don't have the skill to break down this negative wall so a point will do. One shot on target tells the tale.
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Had to play at least one of the 2.
Players are getting a little bit of stick for not making the right decisions in promising positions but I thought it was clear they were under instruction not to take any risks with the ball. Or take minimal.
Its strange saying that Farke got it wrong, he set up the way he did because he expected a lot more from them, but we were the better team and had chances to do better, we didn't!..
Its upto the players on the pitch to do the job asked of them, 1 point away to Burnley isn't the end of the world, a shame they didn't only get a point away to us, but like I said the other day, its not this sort of game that's going to decide who lands where, its games involving the rest of the division that will, and its upto us to make sure we better whatever those around us do!..
The next game is now the important one!..
Back to being flat track bullies at the weekend
So LIW is the coach of Burnley…he’s standing on the touch line, he looks very smart with his black top hat and dinner jacket, smelling of very expensive aftershave, he looks like Jacob Rees—Mogg having his breakfast!
He’s coached Burnley to 3rd in the Championship, with a realistic chance of promotion to the Premier league.
He’s got the best defence in football so how does he approach the game with Leeds, the highest goal scorers in the league?
Does he carry on with his tactics with emphasis on strong defence, hoping to score from free kicks or corners…or does he gamble on a more attacking and open game?
What do you do LIW…keep to the tried and trusted tactics that have lifted your team to 3rd or go for a more open game…exciting for the crowd but not suited to your team?
To the game last night watched on TV.
I was more concerned with the performance of Leeds which I thought was dire and inept, so disappointing.
Even if Burnley with emphasis on defence and lack of intent to get 3 points to join Leeds at the top…a decent performance from Leeds would have won them the game, but no attacking ideas, poor passing, hardly any aggression.
I was disappointed with Bogle, I’ve been bigging him up recently, but his recent performances have been poor.
Piroe just doesn’t do it for me, can’t see him as a Premier striker if we go up…he doesn’t have speed, lacks dynamism for a striker, limited skills I feel.
Aaronson wasn’t in the game either, he’s another I think will struggle in the Premier.
Dan James and Solomon were disappointing…a good game from those two and Aaronson would have got us 3 points despite Burnley’s negative, defensive tactics.
I said similar on the match day thread. Awful anti football. To be fair it’s not just Burnley and it’s not just overly defensive tactics, there’s a whole host of other stuff that’s now common place that ruins the spectacle e.g. time wasting from minute one with the habitual yellow card for time wasting on 85 minutes.
I take my (now adult kids) to every game, spend a small fortune and don’t think wanting to be entertained in return is too much to ask. Something needs to change.
“I was disappointed with Bogle, I’ve been bigging him up recently, but his recent performances have been poor”
He has been one of our best performers over the last few games. He even got MOTM in one.
He’s coached Burnley to 3rd in the Championship, with a realistic chance of promotion to the Premier league.
He’s got the best defence in football so how does he approach the game with Leeds, the highest goal scorers in the league?
Does he carry on with his tactics with emphasis on strong defence, hoping to score from free kicks or corners…or does he gamble on a more attacking and open game?
What do you do LIW…keep to the tried and trusted tactics that have lifted your team to 3rd or go for a more open game…exciting for the crowd but not suited to your team?
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Since the summer, they have signed 19 players and spent £60m.
This is his squad, he has chosen to play this way.
comment by Stoopo (U4707)
posted 59 seconds ago
“I was disappointed with Bogle, I’ve been bigging him up recently, but his recent performances have been poor”
He has been one of our best performers over the last few games. He even got MOTM in one.
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I think he’s lost the consistency he had before Christmas, one good game since the turn of the year doesn’t mean he’s been one the best performers.
I said recently he was one player that didn’t replacing in the Premier…but recent games there hasn’t been an end finsh to his attacking runs and caught out of position defensively at times. Still not saying he’s a weakness though, every chance he will be a success.
comment by LIW 100 Points, champions, Lose two games only (U8453)
posted 17 minutes ago
He’s coached Burnley to 3rd in the Championship, with a realistic chance of promotion to the Premier league.
He’s got the best defence in football so how does he approach the game with Leeds, the highest goal scorers in the league?
Does he carry on with his tactics with emphasis on strong defence, hoping to score from free kicks or corners…or does he gamble on a more attacking and open game?
What do you do LIW…keep to the tried and trusted tactics that have lifted your team to 3rd or go for a more open game…exciting for the crowd but not suited to your team?
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Since the summer, they have signed 19 players and spent £60m.
This is his squad, he has chosen to play this way.
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Generally speaking I don’t take much notice of players valuations, most players are vastly overrated with inflated salaries…not often is a players skill level equal to his value in the football market place.
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posted on 28/1/25
Pretty sure his own fans have always been fed up of him even though he’s achieved promotion with 2 teams. It’s painfully dull. Always have been, always will be.
Should put a few criticisms of our football into perspective. That being said, Farke could and should have done more last night too. As soon as I saw Gruev in I knew it wasn’t going to happen. Would have understood if we also brought in Firpo and Grueve was there to cover for him bombing forward.
I don’t think there’s any need for a change in the points system, Parker is an exception to the general ethos of success at the moment. We had George Graham before but it’s not often a side plays that defensively when ambitions are higher up the table.
Football is all about the emotion ain’t it. Why we will probably never have a better time than Bielsa. We mill hopefully have more success but that emotion and journey will be very difficult to replicate.
posted on 28/1/25
I don’t think there’s any need for a change in the points system, Parker is an exception to the general ethos of success at the moment.
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Yeah your right, plus I think it probably bring more problems, than Solutions.
The Bielsa era and covid lockdowns, changed how I think about football and Life in general.
I just do not believe in unwarranted negativity.
posted on 28/1/25
I cleaned a coffee stain on my dad’s carpet at 715pm.
On 75 minutes we were glancing over at the carpet to see how it was looking dryer.
Not often I get butterflies leading up to a game. This one was huge. Whilst the result was decent the game was absolute dire. May as well have shook hands on a draw post match and turn the lights off
posted on 28/1/25
Didn't think Gruev was a bad call bearing in mind we were the away team and having watched Burnley absolutely destroy Plymouth, with Jaidon Anthony being heavily involved.
The reality of last night was that the home team decided to defend like a non league team against a EPL side and try and nick it on the break.
In summary that lack of ambition deserves nothing - dreadful and cynical.
posted on 28/1/25
thankfully, missed the game.. when I'd checked the score afterwards I thought, oh 0-0, well that's not a bad result..
started to read reports of the game... and drifted off to sleep, seems fitting.
I find watching a lot of the big teams a bit boring too.. I think back to the early 90's.. games seemed much more end to end.. stuff seemed to happen in games.. now it seems we tune in to watch City short pass it around for 90 mins..
I think in all honesty, by trying to make beautiful game more beautiful over the years, its now so beautiful its almost boring...
posted on 28/1/25
Wearing two coats is mad.
posted on 28/1/25
Felt like only one side truly trying to win the game, the other trying to pinch a win.
I'd have taken a draw, but boy it took some watching.
Not for the first time in JA history, you've made me cough up some coffee with this ....
"You’ve got a manager, earning Millons, in four grand coats, stood on touchline, with a shiitt eating grin, thinking he’s some tactial genius."
Perfect summary.
posted on 28/1/25
Have to agree with everyone on here. Burnley are just a horrible team with a horrible manager and they suck the life out of you!
At least we tried to win the game by playing football. They just did what they do every game - defend and hope for a break.
Only complaint I have is that one or two of our players took the easy option rather than take a shot when they had the chance.
Other than that it was a decent performance against a team that obviously know how to defend (they’ve had enough practice!).
On to Saturday.
posted on 28/1/25
Whilst I agree with the sentiment of the thread. The most alarming point is that he paid 4 grand for that coat.
posted on 28/1/25
Excellent article and totally agree with every point made.
Parker's done nothing to me personally and I don't know what it is, but I just can't get past the chiselled chin, nerdy cardigans and businessman's shirt and tie.
That's a comment, perhaps unfair, about him, but his football ethics leave a lot to be desired.
Didn't see the match but 11 0-0 draws in 29 games is not what the paying public should be subjected to. Football is a sport, yes, but it's also about entertainment, ambition and, as you say, a moral obligation to put on the best show possible for everyone watching. It doesn't always work out like that but all these goal-less draws are not coincidence - they're deliberate by way of the manner in which the manager sets his team up to play.
This reminds me of George Graham when he first took over Leeds. He shored up the defence and we also played out 0-0 draws galore. It was mind-numbingly terrible to watch. At the end of the season we finished with the least number of points of any team to survive relegation - a record at the time, not sure if it still isn't.
It's disappointing to think that just one goal last night by us would have condemned them to their third defeat of the season, taken their goals conceded total into double figures and also stretched our lead at the top.
I sincerely hope that Burnley's run catches up with them and they bottle it. I don't care who goes up with us (assuming we do), as long as it's not Burnley.
Five stars from me.
posted on 28/1/25
Perfect summary LIW.
We knew that this was going to be a hard watch but was 10 times worse than I imagined. i heard it was their 9th 0-0 draw this season which is brutal.
Saying that i thought we should have done better. Our passing was terrible particularly where it should have counted and don't start me on our free kicks and corners.
posted on 28/1/25
On the bright side, if we go up and Burnley don't, we know where we can pick up a few defenders if we need them...
posted on 28/1/25
5 stars from me. Agree 100%.
Another 5 stars for this:
"Football is probably the greatest escapism in the world. Doesnt matter your upto your eyeballs on debt, doesnt matter you have depression, doesnt matter your best mate is poking your wife. For that 90 mins, nothing else matters."
On Parker. Never liked the tw4t. We played Fulham
years ago and Parker was in the middle for them.
Can't remember who tackled him (maybe Kalvin) but,
they hit him so hard he did a mid air cart wheel. Parker
looked so confused when he got up from it. Spent the
next 5 minutes of the match struggling to redo his hair.
He's that big of a vain pr 1 ck.
I'm happy with the point. Happier that I get to watch
us week in week out. And not them.
posted on 28/1/25
If that gets them promotion so be it. I agree with the article completely. Then again, they were coming up against a 100 million + super squad, what were they expected to do against that kind of firepower They weren't ever going to out play us. They've taken 4 points off the best/overpowered team in the division. Job done on there part....
posted on 28/1/25
hmm, not saying Parker at top of Christmas card list, didn't even rate him as a player, and as a manager he's extremely dull.... but appears to be a lot jealousy here... a lot of assumptions made about him due to his appearance.
chiselled jaw, businessman cloths, clean appearance, 4 grand coat... why would anyone want to be like that eh?
maybe some of lot need to get to the gym, start shaving and save up for a decent coat...
we had the same with a ref last year, people calling him vein because he's in good shape... 'he's on the steds, he's vein.. do me a favour.
in todays world, you can't make assumptions about someone if he's unshaven, wears a crap coat - totally fine to assume he's a vein b7stard because he in decent nick.
have a little word with ya selfs
posted on 28/1/25
It takes two to tango Farke played his part last night. When I saw Firpo and Rothwell not in the lineup I knew we decided 0-0 was good enough. Most likely Farke thought we don't have the skill to break down this negative wall so a point will do. One shot on target tells the tale.
posted on 28/1/25
comment by montleeds (U18330)
posted 18 minutes ago
It takes two to tango Farke played his part last night. When I saw Firpo and Rothwell not in the lineup I knew we decided 0-0 was good enough. Most likely Farke thought we don't have the skill to break down this negative wall so a point will do. One shot on target tells the tale.
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Had to play at least one of the 2.
Players are getting a little bit of stick for not making the right decisions in promising positions but I thought it was clear they were under instruction not to take any risks with the ball. Or take minimal.
posted on 28/1/25
Its strange saying that Farke got it wrong, he set up the way he did because he expected a lot more from them, but we were the better team and had chances to do better, we didn't!..
Its upto the players on the pitch to do the job asked of them, 1 point away to Burnley isn't the end of the world, a shame they didn't only get a point away to us, but like I said the other day, its not this sort of game that's going to decide who lands where, its games involving the rest of the division that will, and its upto us to make sure we better whatever those around us do!..
The next game is now the important one!..
posted on 28/1/25
Back to being flat track bullies at the weekend
posted on 28/1/25
So LIW is the coach of Burnley…he’s standing on the touch line, he looks very smart with his black top hat and dinner jacket, smelling of very expensive aftershave, he looks like Jacob Rees—Mogg having his breakfast!
He’s coached Burnley to 3rd in the Championship, with a realistic chance of promotion to the Premier league.
He’s got the best defence in football so how does he approach the game with Leeds, the highest goal scorers in the league?
Does he carry on with his tactics with emphasis on strong defence, hoping to score from free kicks or corners…or does he gamble on a more attacking and open game?
What do you do LIW…keep to the tried and trusted tactics that have lifted your team to 3rd or go for a more open game…exciting for the crowd but not suited to your team?
To the game last night watched on TV.
I was more concerned with the performance of Leeds which I thought was dire and inept, so disappointing.
Even if Burnley with emphasis on defence and lack of intent to get 3 points to join Leeds at the top…a decent performance from Leeds would have won them the game, but no attacking ideas, poor passing, hardly any aggression.
I was disappointed with Bogle, I’ve been bigging him up recently, but his recent performances have been poor.
Piroe just doesn’t do it for me, can’t see him as a Premier striker if we go up…he doesn’t have speed, lacks dynamism for a striker, limited skills I feel.
Aaronson wasn’t in the game either, he’s another I think will struggle in the Premier.
Dan James and Solomon were disappointing…a good game from those two and Aaronson would have got us 3 points despite Burnley’s negative, defensive tactics.
posted on 28/1/25
I said similar on the match day thread. Awful anti football. To be fair it’s not just Burnley and it’s not just overly defensive tactics, there’s a whole host of other stuff that’s now common place that ruins the spectacle e.g. time wasting from minute one with the habitual yellow card for time wasting on 85 minutes.
I take my (now adult kids) to every game, spend a small fortune and don’t think wanting to be entertained in return is too much to ask. Something needs to change.
posted on 28/1/25
“I was disappointed with Bogle, I’ve been bigging him up recently, but his recent performances have been poor”
He has been one of our best performers over the last few games. He even got MOTM in one.
posted on 28/1/25
He’s coached Burnley to 3rd in the Championship, with a realistic chance of promotion to the Premier league.
He’s got the best defence in football so how does he approach the game with Leeds, the highest goal scorers in the league?
Does he carry on with his tactics with emphasis on strong defence, hoping to score from free kicks or corners…or does he gamble on a more attacking and open game?
What do you do LIW…keep to the tried and trusted tactics that have lifted your team to 3rd or go for a more open game…exciting for the crowd but not suited to your team?
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Since the summer, they have signed 19 players and spent £60m.
This is his squad, he has chosen to play this way.
posted on 28/1/25
comment by Stoopo (U4707)
posted 59 seconds ago
“I was disappointed with Bogle, I’ve been bigging him up recently, but his recent performances have been poor”
He has been one of our best performers over the last few games. He even got MOTM in one.
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I think he’s lost the consistency he had before Christmas, one good game since the turn of the year doesn’t mean he’s been one the best performers.
I said recently he was one player that didn’t replacing in the Premier…but recent games there hasn’t been an end finsh to his attacking runs and caught out of position defensively at times. Still not saying he’s a weakness though, every chance he will be a success.
posted on 28/1/25
comment by LIW 100 Points, champions, Lose two games only (U8453)
posted 17 minutes ago
He’s coached Burnley to 3rd in the Championship, with a realistic chance of promotion to the Premier league.
He’s got the best defence in football so how does he approach the game with Leeds, the highest goal scorers in the league?
Does he carry on with his tactics with emphasis on strong defence, hoping to score from free kicks or corners…or does he gamble on a more attacking and open game?
What do you do LIW…keep to the tried and trusted tactics that have lifted your team to 3rd or go for a more open game…exciting for the crowd but not suited to your team?
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Since the summer, they have signed 19 players and spent £60m.
This is his squad, he has chosen to play this way.
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Generally speaking I don’t take much notice of players valuations, most players are vastly overrated with inflated salaries…not often is a players skill level equal to his value in the football market place.
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