Think just one of many who are just so dissolusioned with our club we just want this season to be over
.The worst season for many years.
Yes, indeed. I hear a banner has just been unfurled. I wonder what it reads. Vardy has just scored for what it matters. I’d rather be down at Grace Road with my feet up, in a deck chair 🏏 🍺
Thanks for doing the thread Downsurf, It's very difficult to get ..............I was going to say, exited,
Hi all
Thanks downsouth
I won't be starting a new thread at this stage,
Had a mini wobble at 10am did some self treatment
Had a nap ,,,, nearly 6 hrs 🤔🤦🤷
The mind is slowly engaging 😁
Good god we scored a goal
Riveting stuff radio lcfc sound bored to death 🤔
comment by Appletonsthename (U10074)
posted 46 minutes ago
Thanks for doing the thread Downsurf, It's very difficult to get ..............I was going to say, exited,
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Thanks Apples 🍎 🍏 I just felt someone had to get it going.
comment by dublin fox optimistically pessimistic, (now a Cambridge fox)(still can not spell fox) (U1131)
posted 3 minutes ago
Hi all
Thanks downsouth
I won't be starting a new thread at this stage,
Had a mini wobble at 10am did some self treatment
Had a nap ,,,, nearly 6 hrs 🤔🤦🤷
The mind is slowly engaging 😁
Good god we scored a goal
Riveting stuff radio lcfc sound bored to death 🤔
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I’m pleased to have you back dubs. I’ll just this one run then.
At least we winning,just hope Vardy get his 200 before he leaves.
Best wishes to dubs,keep smiling.
Well, we won, scored two goals, clean sheet, over 31200 there and can’t finish bottom. Perhaps Top will decide he doesn’t have to make the decisions he mentioned in the programme notes after all, not that he expanded on what they might be.
Most important news of the afternoon is that Dubs is able to contribute as normal.
Beat Ipswich and I think Van Nistelrooy stays on. The fact our hapless board haven't sacked him yet, despite there being no relegation termination clause, shows to me that they are waiting for an excuse to keep him on and save the money from sacking him. Beating the two teams who we're going down with and finishing 18th will give them the reason they need to keep him. It would be disastrous IMO but Top has shown no willingness to learn from the mistakes he has made over the past 4 years.
Today means nothing bar Vardy being closer to 200 and some more game time for young players. Southampton are atrocious.
Bowstring,I don't think there was more than 29000 there.
Have never seen so many empty seats for a premier game at king power.
Such a feeling of apathy and even despair amongst the loyal fans that so many have given up on this season.
comment by Bowstring (U17642)
posted 2 hours, 22 minutes ago
Well, we won, scored two goals, clean sheet, over 31200 there and can’t finish bottom. Perhaps Top will decide he doesn’t have to make the decisions he mentioned in the programme notes after all, not that he expanded on what they might be.
Most important news of the afternoon is that Dubs is able to contribute as normal.
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No way 31200. Only if you count all the STHs that didn't turn up. A lot louder 'we want Rudkin out' and 'sack the board' today.
Southampton dire.
Really worried we're going to keep RVN
Fellow ex-foxes, I was just quoting the attendance figure on the BBC site. Having watched the “highlights” I agree with you; empty seats aplenty in view. If you’ve watched any Championship games this season it is a sign of things to come.
Beat Ipswich then RVN has demonstrated he can get the better of our two main rivals next year, wouldn’t be surprised he is still here come August.
I’ve never felt so disenchanted with the team I fell in love with one floodlit Wednesday night when Keith Weller scored a hat trick to defeat Liverpool. And that includes a season ticket in league one.
To a degree I'm looking forward to the Championship and the chance of scoring the odd goal and maybe getting some points. This tempered by the worry that Top won't make the necessary changes to give us a chance to stay up if we get promoted.
The key concern for me is that if we do well in the final few games that would paper over the cracks and lead us to not having the necessary changes (to the management and Manager) which are needed for success.
We have already beaten a truly dreadful Southampton side who were 'not fit to wear the shirt' according to the away following yesterday. We have a game at the City Ground with Forest struggling for form so there is a tiny possibility we might get something there (bear with me in this fantasy scenario). Then the biggest game of the season to potentially decide who is the best of the worst. Ending up with a trip to the seaside where Bournemouth may be already on the beach - another tiny possibility we'll get something.
I don't want us not to do well of course, but I fear from Top's programme notes where he indicated that the final games of the season will inform the way forward, that a few good results now will not serve us well in the long term by making him think keeping Rudders and RVN in place is a good move.
Not sure what you’re complaining about Nuneaton. You’re backing these owners - in that sense, you’ve nailed your colours to the mast. I get it - you’re thinking someone else could be worse than we’ve got (which I find hilarious personally) - but I get that’s your fear.
You and Mersey share this strange phenomenon however of simultaneously backing the King Power, hoping they will make changes and then getting concerned when they don’t - but still continuing to back them while watching the club go off the cliff
Even talking about promotion next season signals to me that you still don’t quite get the situation we are going to be in
We will lose Vardy, Ndidi, El Khanouss (already in talks with Arsenal) and others. We are likely to be under some restrictions from the EFL. Add to that our track record on recruitment and personally I think you need to give your head a wobble about promotion next season 😂
Players I think we’ll lose
Vardy (obviously)
El Khanouss
Mads
Ndidi (£9m release clause 😂)
Buenonotte
Faes (that’s a good thing)
Winks (especially if RVN stays)
Ricardo (final year)
It’s not going to be like last time in the championship
comment by 98 Problems (and promotion ain’t one) (U12353)
posted 16 hours, 13 minutes ago
Not sure what you’re complaining about Nuneaton. You’re backing these owners - in that sense, you’ve nailed your colours to the mast. I get it - you’re thinking someone else could be worse than we’ve got (which I find hilarious personally) - but I get that’s your fear.
You and Mersey share this strange phenomenon however of simultaneously backing the King Power, hoping they will make changes and then getting concerned when they don’t - but still continuing to back them while watching the club go off the cliff
Even talking about promotion next season signals to me that you still don’t quite get the situation we are going to be in
We will lose Vardy, Ndidi, El Khanouss (already in talks with Arsenal) and others. We are likely to be under some restrictions from the EFL. Add to that our track record on recruitment and personally I think you need to give your head a wobble about promotion next season 😂
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I've never said I'm happy about the current situation, quite the opposite in fact. I'm hopeful we'll be at the right end of the table next season but wouldn't be particularly shocked if we weren't.
King Power have been extremely good to this football club - even in the last few years - so they have earned from me the right to try and sort out the current mess. If Top cannot do this then I might reluctantly decide it's time for a change in ownership. If you have such little confidence in the management of this club and want a change now, why do you think that they would choose the 'right' people to take over - as they are so utterly useless in your view?
comment by 98 Problems (and promotion ain’t one) (U12353)
posted 16 hours, 20 minutes ago
Players I think we’ll lose
Vardy (obviously)
El Khanouss
Mads
Ndidi (£9m release clause 😂)
Buenonotte
Faes (that’s a good thing)
Winks (especially if RVN stays)
Ricardo (final year)
It’s not going to be like last time in the championship
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At least we may get some reasonable fees for a few of those you mention. I won't shed any tears either for Faes. Okoli may be off too.
You can hopefully add Soumare and Kristiansen to that list. In an ideal world Vestergaard would be on his way too - fat chance! Unfortunately Monga will be leaving for chickenfeed I suspect.
There still ought to be the basis of a competitive side from those remaining and returning, together with any additions that may be made. We'll see before too long the answers to some of the key questions about any changes to the management/manager and players leaving/staying.
There is persistent news from several fairly reliable media sources that we have a shortlist of potential replacements for RvN. It is possible that he is still in post because they don’t want to sack him in the financial year which ends I think at the end of this month, for PSR reasons. Add to that RvN’s observations re not having had the conversations with the board about next season and his rowing back slightly on where he might be next season.
As regards those players not being here next year, please add Patson Daka. Please!!!
For info, my long held season ticket now abandoned. A sad event in many ways.
comment by old warwick fox (U11640)
posted 58 minutes ago
There is persistent news from several fairly reliable media sources that we have a shortlist of potential replacements for RvN. It is possible that he is still in post because they don’t want to sack him in the financial year which ends I think at the end of this month, for PSR reasons. Add to that RvN’s observations re not having had the conversations with the board about next season and his rowing back slightly on where he might be next season.
As regards those players not being here next year, please add Patson Daka. Please!!!
For info, my long held season ticket now abandoned. A sad event in many ways.
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Daka is an interesting one. He's never had a really good opportunity with us given the GOAT. I wonder if a year of plundering Championship defences might give him some confidence? One can but dream.
He does have some good attributes - mainly his pace. Seems like a nice chap too. Against Southampton was a microcosm of his time with the club; the ball is heading towards him in a very promising position in the middle around the 18 yard line and he just seems to fall over, also does a great break down the right and fails miserably to cross the ball when a goal beckoned for I think maybe Jake Evans? I can't get out of my mind that terrible miskick when on goal against Leeds away, which possibly cost us that match.
I suspect he'll be consigned to the very full scrapyard of players who have signed for LCFC as strikers and failed miserably whilst JV9 has been around - some of whom have been quite successful elsewhere.
comment by Nuneaton_fox (U7936)
posted 1 day, 10 hours ago
comment by 98 Problems (and promotion ain’t one) (U12353)
posted 16 hours, 13 minutes ago
Not sure what you’re complaining about Nuneaton. You’re backing these owners - in that sense, you’ve nailed your colours to the mast. I get it - you’re thinking someone else could be worse than we’ve got (which I find hilarious personally) - but I get that’s your fear.
You and Mersey share this strange phenomenon however of simultaneously backing the King Power, hoping they will make changes and then getting concerned when they don’t - but still continuing to back them while watching the club go off the cliff
Even talking about promotion next season signals to me that you still don’t quite get the situation we are going to be in
We will lose Vardy, Ndidi, El Khanouss (already in talks with Arsenal) and others. We are likely to be under some restrictions from the EFL. Add to that our track record on recruitment and personally I think you need to give your head a wobble about promotion next season 😂
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I've never said I'm happy about the current situation, quite the opposite in fact. I'm hopeful we'll be at the right end of the table next season but wouldn't be particularly shocked if we weren't.
King Power have been extremely good to this football club - even in the last few years - so they have earned from me the right to try and sort out the current mess. If Top cannot do this then I might reluctantly decide it's time for a change in ownership. If you have such little confidence in the management of this club and want a change now, why do you think that they would choose the 'right' people to take over - as they are so utterly useless in your view?
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The king power have been good for this football club in the last few years? Really? Have they been running the financially sustainably then? How has their fan engagement been? What about their choice of sponsorship which drew criticism from across the industry. And before you mention writing off the debt - while it’s a commitment, we all know it’s moving money from one hand to the other. And how about on the pitch? In what way has 2 relegations in 3 years been good for this football club
Your bizarre logic seems to be that because they evidently can’t get us out of the mess we’re in - they also won’t be capable of selecting another owner. So what are you suggesting then? Because they are so incapable we should all just continue backing them because the process of a club sale could be even worse?
Running a football club and selling it are two very different things. Do I think the KP group would want to find the best owners for this club if they chose to sell? Yes I do. Do I think they know how to put out the fire they started - no I don’t
I agree that KP haven't been good for this football club in the last few years.
They have written off over a hundred million of debt though, an extremely magnanimous gesture which you appear to dismiss offhand. It could still be there, threatening the long term future for the club. It's not any more and they deserve credit for that.
You appear to want to rush into a sale. I'm sure you are right that they would want to find the best owners for this club if they chose to sell; that's not my point, I'm asking how you believe they are capable of achieving this if you are convinced the management and owners are so useless and utterly incompetent. You might want another Vichai but could end up with ................(insert name here of any number of horror owners of football clubs).
comment by Nuneaton_fox (U7936)
posted 2 hours, 22 minutes ago
I agree that KP haven't been good for this football club in the last few years.
They have written off over a hundred million of debt though, an extremely magnanimous gesture which you appear to dismiss offhand. It could still be there, threatening the long term future for the club. It's not any more and they deserve credit for that.
You appear to want to rush into a sale. I'm sure you are right that they would want to find the best owners for this club if they chose to sell; that's not my point, I'm asking how you believe they are capable of achieving this if you are convinced the management and owners are so useless and utterly incompetent. You might want another Vichai but could end up with ................(insert name here of any number of horror owners of football clubs).
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The reason I dismiss writing off the debt is because most football finance experts will tell you that the owners are never getting the money back and they know it. It’s been done plenty of times - yes it’s a sign the owners are committed - but it’s not the magnanimous gesture fans believe. They get sucked in by the headlines without understanding what the practice actually involves and why people do it.
To address your point for the second time - I believe Top
Is incapable when it comes to driving and implementing a long term vision for this football club. That is entirely different to considering an offer from an interested buyer. I’m not saying Top is an incapable businessman. Far from it. The skills needed to identify a suitable buyer could be argued to be quite different to the skills needed to run a football club. I don’t think I’ve ever suggested Top is utterly clueless in all business related matters have I?
comment by 98 Problems (and promotion ain’t one) (U12353)
posted 10 hours, 2 minutes ago
comment by Nuneaton_fox (U7936)
posted 2 hours, 22 minutes ago
I agree that KP haven't been good for this football club in the last few years.
They have written off over a hundred million of debt though, an extremely magnanimous gesture which you appear to dismiss offhand. It could still be there, threatening the long term future for the club. It's not any more and they deserve credit for that.
You appear to want to rush into a sale. I'm sure you are right that they would want to find the best owners for this club if they chose to sell; that's not my point, I'm asking how you believe they are capable of achieving this if you are convinced the management and owners are so useless and utterly incompetent. You might want another Vichai but could end up with ................(insert name here of any number of horror owners of football clubs).
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The reason I dismiss writing off the debt is because most football finance experts will tell you that the owners are never getting the money back and they know it. It’s been done plenty of times - yes it’s a sign the owners are committed - but it’s not the magnanimous gesture fans believe. They get sucked in by the headlines without understanding what the practice actually involves and why people do it.
To address your point for the second time - I believe Top
Is incapable when it comes to driving and implementing a long term vision for this football club. That is entirely different to considering an offer from an interested buyer. I’m not saying Top is an incapable businessman. Far from it. The skills needed to identify a suitable buyer could be argued to be quite different to the skills needed to run a football club. I don’t think I’ve ever suggested Top is utterly clueless in all business related matters have I?
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Interesting response. So you don't give KP any credit for writing off the debt when they could as an alternative have left it on the club's books.
Your second point beggars belief, you actually think that somehow this chap is competent when he doesn't seem to be able to see what's staring him in the face at LCFC.
I think the problem you have Numeaton is separating business decision making from footballing decision making. There are many very successful entrepreneurs that buy football clubs and make a mess of it. They were very successful in their other enterprises. That’s because running a football club, while of course being a business itself, is unique in several other aspects.
So my point to you is - yes I think as a football club owner, Top has been very poor for this club. That doesn’t mean he’s not competent at anything. It doesn’t mean I think he would sell up to Mike Ashley. I’m not quite sure why you’re getting so stuck on that point - buying and selling a football club and then actually running it are two entirely different skill sets
As an example - I thought Mandaric was a pretty poor ‘hire and fire’ owner to be honest. I was of course very grateful that he came in at a time when we were going nowhere and put us on the map - but we were hardly making progress under his “high spend, high turnover” approach. But did he find the right owner in Vichai when he sold up? Undoubtedly yes he did
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posted on 3/5/25
Think just one of many who are just so dissolusioned with our club we just want this season to be over
.The worst season for many years.
posted on 3/5/25
Yes, indeed. I hear a banner has just been unfurled. I wonder what it reads. Vardy has just scored for what it matters. I’d rather be down at Grace Road with my feet up, in a deck chair 🏏 🍺
posted on 3/5/25
Thanks for doing the thread Downsurf, It's very difficult to get ..............I was going to say, exited,
posted on 3/5/25
Hi all
Thanks downsouth
I won't be starting a new thread at this stage,
Had a mini wobble at 10am did some self treatment
Had a nap ,,,, nearly 6 hrs 🤔🤦🤷
The mind is slowly engaging 😁
Good god we scored a goal
Riveting stuff radio lcfc sound bored to death 🤔
posted on 3/5/25
comment by Appletonsthename (U10074)
posted 46 minutes ago
Thanks for doing the thread Downsurf, It's very difficult to get ..............I was going to say, exited,
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Thanks Apples 🍎 🍏 I just felt someone had to get it going.
posted on 3/5/25
comment by dublin fox optimistically pessimistic, (now a Cambridge fox)(still can not spell fox) (U1131)
posted 3 minutes ago
Hi all
Thanks downsouth
I won't be starting a new thread at this stage,
Had a mini wobble at 10am did some self treatment
Had a nap ,,,, nearly 6 hrs 🤔🤦🤷
The mind is slowly engaging 😁
Good god we scored a goal
Riveting stuff radio lcfc sound bored to death 🤔
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I’m pleased to have you back dubs. I’ll just this one run then.
posted on 3/5/25
* let
posted on 3/5/25
At least we winning,just hope Vardy get his 200 before he leaves.
Best wishes to dubs,keep smiling.
posted on 3/5/25
Well, we won, scored two goals, clean sheet, over 31200 there and can’t finish bottom. Perhaps Top will decide he doesn’t have to make the decisions he mentioned in the programme notes after all, not that he expanded on what they might be.
Most important news of the afternoon is that Dubs is able to contribute as normal.
posted on 3/5/25
Beat Ipswich and I think Van Nistelrooy stays on. The fact our hapless board haven't sacked him yet, despite there being no relegation termination clause, shows to me that they are waiting for an excuse to keep him on and save the money from sacking him. Beating the two teams who we're going down with and finishing 18th will give them the reason they need to keep him. It would be disastrous IMO but Top has shown no willingness to learn from the mistakes he has made over the past 4 years.
Today means nothing bar Vardy being closer to 200 and some more game time for young players. Southampton are atrocious.
posted on 3/5/25
Bowstring,I don't think there was more than 29000 there.
Have never seen so many empty seats for a premier game at king power.
Such a feeling of apathy and even despair amongst the loyal fans that so many have given up on this season.
posted on 3/5/25
comment by Bowstring (U17642)
posted 2 hours, 22 minutes ago
Well, we won, scored two goals, clean sheet, over 31200 there and can’t finish bottom. Perhaps Top will decide he doesn’t have to make the decisions he mentioned in the programme notes after all, not that he expanded on what they might be.
Most important news of the afternoon is that Dubs is able to contribute as normal.
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No way 31200. Only if you count all the STHs that didn't turn up. A lot louder 'we want Rudkin out' and 'sack the board' today.
Southampton dire.
Really worried we're going to keep RVN
posted on 3/5/25
Fellow ex-foxes, I was just quoting the attendance figure on the BBC site. Having watched the “highlights” I agree with you; empty seats aplenty in view. If you’ve watched any Championship games this season it is a sign of things to come.
Beat Ipswich then RVN has demonstrated he can get the better of our two main rivals next year, wouldn’t be surprised he is still here come August.
I’ve never felt so disenchanted with the team I fell in love with one floodlit Wednesday night when Keith Weller scored a hat trick to defeat Liverpool. And that includes a season ticket in league one.
posted on 4/5/25
To a degree I'm looking forward to the Championship and the chance of scoring the odd goal and maybe getting some points. This tempered by the worry that Top won't make the necessary changes to give us a chance to stay up if we get promoted.
The key concern for me is that if we do well in the final few games that would paper over the cracks and lead us to not having the necessary changes (to the management and Manager) which are needed for success.
We have already beaten a truly dreadful Southampton side who were 'not fit to wear the shirt' according to the away following yesterday. We have a game at the City Ground with Forest struggling for form so there is a tiny possibility we might get something there (bear with me in this fantasy scenario). Then the biggest game of the season to potentially decide who is the best of the worst. Ending up with a trip to the seaside where Bournemouth may be already on the beach - another tiny possibility we'll get something.
I don't want us not to do well of course, but I fear from Top's programme notes where he indicated that the final games of the season will inform the way forward, that a few good results now will not serve us well in the long term by making him think keeping Rudders and RVN in place is a good move.
posted on 4/5/25
Not sure what you’re complaining about Nuneaton. You’re backing these owners - in that sense, you’ve nailed your colours to the mast. I get it - you’re thinking someone else could be worse than we’ve got (which I find hilarious personally) - but I get that’s your fear.
You and Mersey share this strange phenomenon however of simultaneously backing the King Power, hoping they will make changes and then getting concerned when they don’t - but still continuing to back them while watching the club go off the cliff
Even talking about promotion next season signals to me that you still don’t quite get the situation we are going to be in
We will lose Vardy, Ndidi, El Khanouss (already in talks with Arsenal) and others. We are likely to be under some restrictions from the EFL. Add to that our track record on recruitment and personally I think you need to give your head a wobble about promotion next season 😂
posted on 4/5/25
Players I think we’ll lose
Vardy (obviously)
El Khanouss
Mads
Ndidi (£9m release clause 😂)
Buenonotte
Faes (that’s a good thing)
Winks (especially if RVN stays)
Ricardo (final year)
It’s not going to be like last time in the championship
posted on 5/5/25
comment by 98 Problems (and promotion ain’t one) (U12353)
posted 16 hours, 13 minutes ago
Not sure what you’re complaining about Nuneaton. You’re backing these owners - in that sense, you’ve nailed your colours to the mast. I get it - you’re thinking someone else could be worse than we’ve got (which I find hilarious personally) - but I get that’s your fear.
You and Mersey share this strange phenomenon however of simultaneously backing the King Power, hoping they will make changes and then getting concerned when they don’t - but still continuing to back them while watching the club go off the cliff
Even talking about promotion next season signals to me that you still don’t quite get the situation we are going to be in
We will lose Vardy, Ndidi, El Khanouss (already in talks with Arsenal) and others. We are likely to be under some restrictions from the EFL. Add to that our track record on recruitment and personally I think you need to give your head a wobble about promotion next season 😂
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I've never said I'm happy about the current situation, quite the opposite in fact. I'm hopeful we'll be at the right end of the table next season but wouldn't be particularly shocked if we weren't.
King Power have been extremely good to this football club - even in the last few years - so they have earned from me the right to try and sort out the current mess. If Top cannot do this then I might reluctantly decide it's time for a change in ownership. If you have such little confidence in the management of this club and want a change now, why do you think that they would choose the 'right' people to take over - as they are so utterly useless in your view?
posted on 5/5/25
comment by 98 Problems (and promotion ain’t one) (U12353)
posted 16 hours, 20 minutes ago
Players I think we’ll lose
Vardy (obviously)
El Khanouss
Mads
Ndidi (£9m release clause 😂)
Buenonotte
Faes (that’s a good thing)
Winks (especially if RVN stays)
Ricardo (final year)
It’s not going to be like last time in the championship
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At least we may get some reasonable fees for a few of those you mention. I won't shed any tears either for Faes. Okoli may be off too.
You can hopefully add Soumare and Kristiansen to that list. In an ideal world Vestergaard would be on his way too - fat chance! Unfortunately Monga will be leaving for chickenfeed I suspect.
There still ought to be the basis of a competitive side from those remaining and returning, together with any additions that may be made. We'll see before too long the answers to some of the key questions about any changes to the management/manager and players leaving/staying.
posted on 5/5/25
There is persistent news from several fairly reliable media sources that we have a shortlist of potential replacements for RvN. It is possible that he is still in post because they don’t want to sack him in the financial year which ends I think at the end of this month, for PSR reasons. Add to that RvN’s observations re not having had the conversations with the board about next season and his rowing back slightly on where he might be next season.
As regards those players not being here next year, please add Patson Daka. Please!!!
For info, my long held season ticket now abandoned. A sad event in many ways.
posted on 5/5/25
comment by old warwick fox (U11640)
posted 58 minutes ago
There is persistent news from several fairly reliable media sources that we have a shortlist of potential replacements for RvN. It is possible that he is still in post because they don’t want to sack him in the financial year which ends I think at the end of this month, for PSR reasons. Add to that RvN’s observations re not having had the conversations with the board about next season and his rowing back slightly on where he might be next season.
As regards those players not being here next year, please add Patson Daka. Please!!!
For info, my long held season ticket now abandoned. A sad event in many ways.
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Daka is an interesting one. He's never had a really good opportunity with us given the GOAT. I wonder if a year of plundering Championship defences might give him some confidence? One can but dream.
He does have some good attributes - mainly his pace. Seems like a nice chap too. Against Southampton was a microcosm of his time with the club; the ball is heading towards him in a very promising position in the middle around the 18 yard line and he just seems to fall over, also does a great break down the right and fails miserably to cross the ball when a goal beckoned for I think maybe Jake Evans? I can't get out of my mind that terrible miskick when on goal against Leeds away, which possibly cost us that match.
I suspect he'll be consigned to the very full scrapyard of players who have signed for LCFC as strikers and failed miserably whilst JV9 has been around - some of whom have been quite successful elsewhere.
posted on 6/5/25
comment by Nuneaton_fox (U7936)
posted 1 day, 10 hours ago
comment by 98 Problems (and promotion ain’t one) (U12353)
posted 16 hours, 13 minutes ago
Not sure what you’re complaining about Nuneaton. You’re backing these owners - in that sense, you’ve nailed your colours to the mast. I get it - you’re thinking someone else could be worse than we’ve got (which I find hilarious personally) - but I get that’s your fear.
You and Mersey share this strange phenomenon however of simultaneously backing the King Power, hoping they will make changes and then getting concerned when they don’t - but still continuing to back them while watching the club go off the cliff
Even talking about promotion next season signals to me that you still don’t quite get the situation we are going to be in
We will lose Vardy, Ndidi, El Khanouss (already in talks with Arsenal) and others. We are likely to be under some restrictions from the EFL. Add to that our track record on recruitment and personally I think you need to give your head a wobble about promotion next season 😂
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I've never said I'm happy about the current situation, quite the opposite in fact. I'm hopeful we'll be at the right end of the table next season but wouldn't be particularly shocked if we weren't.
King Power have been extremely good to this football club - even in the last few years - so they have earned from me the right to try and sort out the current mess. If Top cannot do this then I might reluctantly decide it's time for a change in ownership. If you have such little confidence in the management of this club and want a change now, why do you think that they would choose the 'right' people to take over - as they are so utterly useless in your view?
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The king power have been good for this football club in the last few years? Really? Have they been running the financially sustainably then? How has their fan engagement been? What about their choice of sponsorship which drew criticism from across the industry. And before you mention writing off the debt - while it’s a commitment, we all know it’s moving money from one hand to the other. And how about on the pitch? In what way has 2 relegations in 3 years been good for this football club
Your bizarre logic seems to be that because they evidently can’t get us out of the mess we’re in - they also won’t be capable of selecting another owner. So what are you suggesting then? Because they are so incapable we should all just continue backing them because the process of a club sale could be even worse?
Running a football club and selling it are two very different things. Do I think the KP group would want to find the best owners for this club if they chose to sell? Yes I do. Do I think they know how to put out the fire they started - no I don’t
posted on 6/5/25
I agree that KP haven't been good for this football club in the last few years.
They have written off over a hundred million of debt though, an extremely magnanimous gesture which you appear to dismiss offhand. It could still be there, threatening the long term future for the club. It's not any more and they deserve credit for that.
You appear to want to rush into a sale. I'm sure you are right that they would want to find the best owners for this club if they chose to sell; that's not my point, I'm asking how you believe they are capable of achieving this if you are convinced the management and owners are so useless and utterly incompetent. You might want another Vichai but could end up with ................(insert name here of any number of horror owners of football clubs).
posted on 6/5/25
comment by Nuneaton_fox (U7936)
posted 2 hours, 22 minutes ago
I agree that KP haven't been good for this football club in the last few years.
They have written off over a hundred million of debt though, an extremely magnanimous gesture which you appear to dismiss offhand. It could still be there, threatening the long term future for the club. It's not any more and they deserve credit for that.
You appear to want to rush into a sale. I'm sure you are right that they would want to find the best owners for this club if they chose to sell; that's not my point, I'm asking how you believe they are capable of achieving this if you are convinced the management and owners are so useless and utterly incompetent. You might want another Vichai but could end up with ................(insert name here of any number of horror owners of football clubs).
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The reason I dismiss writing off the debt is because most football finance experts will tell you that the owners are never getting the money back and they know it. It’s been done plenty of times - yes it’s a sign the owners are committed - but it’s not the magnanimous gesture fans believe. They get sucked in by the headlines without understanding what the practice actually involves and why people do it.
To address your point for the second time - I believe Top
Is incapable when it comes to driving and implementing a long term vision for this football club. That is entirely different to considering an offer from an interested buyer. I’m not saying Top is an incapable businessman. Far from it. The skills needed to identify a suitable buyer could be argued to be quite different to the skills needed to run a football club. I don’t think I’ve ever suggested Top is utterly clueless in all business related matters have I?
posted on 7/5/25
comment by 98 Problems (and promotion ain’t one) (U12353)
posted 10 hours, 2 minutes ago
comment by Nuneaton_fox (U7936)
posted 2 hours, 22 minutes ago
I agree that KP haven't been good for this football club in the last few years.
They have written off over a hundred million of debt though, an extremely magnanimous gesture which you appear to dismiss offhand. It could still be there, threatening the long term future for the club. It's not any more and they deserve credit for that.
You appear to want to rush into a sale. I'm sure you are right that they would want to find the best owners for this club if they chose to sell; that's not my point, I'm asking how you believe they are capable of achieving this if you are convinced the management and owners are so useless and utterly incompetent. You might want another Vichai but could end up with ................(insert name here of any number of horror owners of football clubs).
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The reason I dismiss writing off the debt is because most football finance experts will tell you that the owners are never getting the money back and they know it. It’s been done plenty of times - yes it’s a sign the owners are committed - but it’s not the magnanimous gesture fans believe. They get sucked in by the headlines without understanding what the practice actually involves and why people do it.
To address your point for the second time - I believe Top
Is incapable when it comes to driving and implementing a long term vision for this football club. That is entirely different to considering an offer from an interested buyer. I’m not saying Top is an incapable businessman. Far from it. The skills needed to identify a suitable buyer could be argued to be quite different to the skills needed to run a football club. I don’t think I’ve ever suggested Top is utterly clueless in all business related matters have I?
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Interesting response. So you don't give KP any credit for writing off the debt when they could as an alternative have left it on the club's books.
Your second point beggars belief, you actually think that somehow this chap is competent when he doesn't seem to be able to see what's staring him in the face at LCFC.
posted on 7/5/25
I think the problem you have Numeaton is separating business decision making from footballing decision making. There are many very successful entrepreneurs that buy football clubs and make a mess of it. They were very successful in their other enterprises. That’s because running a football club, while of course being a business itself, is unique in several other aspects.
So my point to you is - yes I think as a football club owner, Top has been very poor for this club. That doesn’t mean he’s not competent at anything. It doesn’t mean I think he would sell up to Mike Ashley. I’m not quite sure why you’re getting so stuck on that point - buying and selling a football club and then actually running it are two entirely different skill sets
As an example - I thought Mandaric was a pretty poor ‘hire and fire’ owner to be honest. I was of course very grateful that he came in at a time when we were going nowhere and put us on the map - but we were hardly making progress under his “high spend, high turnover” approach. But did he find the right owner in Vichai when he sold up? Undoubtedly yes he did
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