There does seem to be delusion amongst some of the united fans on here who think we are still operating as a top side.
---------------------------
Go on then... which posters? And what have they specifically said that fits your description?
Read this article:
Amorim threatening to leave
Some fans even said bring Anciolotti.
Brought up managers above us who definitely would not join us.
Wanting to sell Bruno expecting a replacement 🤣
Actual belief this side is underperforming, rather than it actually just being rubbish.
There is only about 15 of us on here these days.
Name and shame.
We will be moving on some players at the end of the season. Of course the EL result will affect the transfer kitty, but there will be a plan for a win, and one for without it. We will still bring in some players, and there appears to be a clearer strategy in place for that, of going for up and coming talent. Any transfer is a risk to see if they can make it to the top level in the market that we are in.
So whilst we have to be realistic, let's not try to be overly-negative. Life's too short and all that. Let's hope for improvement next season after a good summer.
comment by unitedwedontwin (U23240)
posted 12 minutes ago
Brought up managers above us who definitely would not join us.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Which managers would definitely not join us, and why?
I don't think any of the really up and coming managers will touch us with a 40ft pole if we sack Amorim before he's even had a single pre season and summer window.
We just go from calamity to the next one.
Is anyone now confident that under Jimbo and Berrada / Wilcox we are set for the future? I genuinely don't think they have made anything better yet. If anything we are getting worse.
Ancelotti once managed Everton, so isn't averse to getting in the lower half of the league.
Let's face it though... none of us know what kind of club we are in the minds of other managers, players etc... We don't really have a grasp on how the finances work or anything.
Has anyone suggested we try for Xavi?
I think us fans view Utd very different to how managers do.
Even with everything going on at Utd, most managers would jump at the chance to take over. Not many managers get a chance to manage one of the biggest clubs in the world, and managers have egos - in their eyes they will succeed where others have failed, indeed, that would be part of the attraction.
The big question really is can we find the right manager who can take us back to where we want to be.
You would still have some sort of transfer budget
comment by Ji Sung Park's Cousin (U2958)
posted 2 minutes ago
Has anyone suggested we try for Xavi?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
He appears to have filtered me for referring to his past contradictory comments
There does seem to be delusion amongst some of the united fans on here who think we are still operating as a top side.
....................................
Shut up you buffoon.
If the club don't feel Amorim is the right man, he's not shown anything to prove he is. The system seems ill suited to the squad and even the league and he doesn't come across as having a galvanizing impact on the squad, crowd or club as a whole.
Then better to get rid sooner rather than later and it's not admitting he's not a good manager. He's shown he is but he looks like he's not cut out for what United need. At least so far so a cut and run approach for both this summer could make sense. Only the board can make that call. You could understand their reticence to back him given their has been little sign of improvement under him.
If I could find someone who I thought would galvanize the squad and play a better system then I would part ways if I was them before it harms his reputation too much, get someone in who plays with wingers to get the best out of this squad.
Major issue with that is, absolute lack of top tier attainable managers at the moment so your again looking at guys possibly ready to take the next step much like the Amorim appointment, in which they don't get time to make it work unless they prove the team is improving.
comment by HB Fash (U21935)
posted 1 minute ago
If the club don't feel Amorim is the right man, he's not shown anything to prove he is. The system seems ill suited to the squad and even the league and he doesn't come across as having a galvanizing impact on the squad, crowd or club as a whole.
Then better to get rid sooner rather than later and it's not admitting he's not a good manager. He's shown he is but he looks like he's not cut out for what United need. At least so far so a cut and run approach for both this summer could make sense. Only the board can make that call. You could understand their reticence to back him given their has been little sign of improvement under him.
If I could find someone who I thought would galvanize the squad and play a better system then I would part ways if I was them before it harms his reputation too much, get someone in who plays with wingers to get the best out of this squad.
Major issue with that is, absolute lack of top tier attainable managers at the moment so your again looking at guys possibly ready to take the next step much like the Amorim appointment, in which they don't get time to make it work unless they prove the team is improving.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
If the club don't think Amorim is the right man nor his system then they should be sacking themselves surely? He's literally their appointment. They wanted him and he told them this is his way and he won't change course.
I don't feel like we have moved on at all from the Woodward days. It's just a different name on the door but it's still an absolute shambles.
If they get rid of Amorim before he's been given a chance than every single fan should be INEOS out as this is their appointment. Their doing and nobody else's.
comment by Tyranny of the majority (SE85) (U21241)
posted 42 minutes ago
I don't think any of the really up and coming managers will touch us with a 40ft pole if we sack Amorim before he's even had a single pre season and summer window.
We just go from calamity to the next one.
Is anyone now confident that under Jimbo and Berrada / Wilcox we are set for the future? I genuinely don't think they have made anything better yet. If anything we are getting worse.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
well this is the $6M question.
Are Jim and INEOS going to turn out to be what we fans all hoped they would be as minority owners running the football club and maybe outright owners of MUFC when they get their act together....or are they going to be no better than the Glazers have been and still are. (Which would take some doing BTW.)
You think "endless cuts" is a negative, yet we're the second biggest spenders in world football?
Cuts are necessary, I have worked with Utd on a project and they spent their whole budget of a piece of software not fit for purpose and didn't even scope it before making their decision. Now they can't afford a £700 a month subscription to cover the gaps.
I expect there is a lot of waste.
comment by kinsang (U3346)
posted 1 hour, 27 minutes ago
comment by Ji Sung Park's Cousin (U2958)
posted 2 minutes ago
Has anyone suggested we try for Xavi?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
He appears to have filtered me for referring to his past contradictory comments
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Same here
So, just for those that missed it:
Quotes from Culer regarding Xavi, April 2024
https://www.ja606.co.uk/articles/viewArticle/461420
"No. Too many areas of his management are below minimum standard for a top club. Also, when he won La Liga last year, it was with the record for most 1-0 scorelines. Think it was 8 in total and the majority of those games Barca were very poor and bailed out by individual brilliance.
He also plays turgid long ball football.
Avoid."
"Trust me he's a garbage manager and there's a reason he was being slated by everyone before he announced his departure."
"This season Barca have been woeful and it's down to Xavi.
Shocking football, no tactics or attacking patterns.
Don't believe me?? Look into why he's leaving. He's trash."
"he's a Spanish version of Ole believe me."
"Xavi is a poor manager and Barca are horrid to watch."
comment by Ji Sung Park's Cousin (U2958)
posted 40 minutes ago
comment by kinsang (U3346)
posted 1 hour, 27 minutes ago
comment by Ji Sung Park's Cousin (U2958)
posted 2 minutes ago
Has anyone suggested we try for Xavi?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
He appears to have filtered me for referring to his past contradictory comments
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Same here
So, just for those that missed it:
Quotes from Culer regarding Xavi, April 2024
https://www.ja606.co.uk/articles/viewArticle/461420
"No. Too many areas of his management are below minimum standard for a top club. Also, when he won La Liga last year, it was with the record for most 1-0 scorelines. Think it was 8 in total and the majority of those games Barca were very poor and bailed out by individual brilliance.
He also plays turgid long ball football.
Avoid."
"Trust me he's a garbage manager and there's a reason he was being slated by everyone before he announced his departure."
"This season Barca have been woeful and it's down to Xavi.
Shocking football, no tactics or attacking patterns.
Don't believe me?? Look into why he's leaving. He's trash."
"he's a Spanish version of Ole believe me."
"Xavi is a poor manager and Barca are horrid to watch."
----------------------------------------------------------------------
And this is exactly why Culer will always remain of filter.
No way should he ever be allowed to breed.
As much as a EL final win would be good, and subsequent CL qualification as a result would be a big financial boost, could that also be a double edged sword in the efforts to get rid of all the fringe players and big salaried players that are deemed surplus, due to the likelihood of them having a 25% CL salary bonus in their contracts?
There does seem to be delusion amongst some of the united fans on here who think we are still operating as a top side
Who are these fans? What have they said that made you come to this conclusion?
comment by HB Fash (U21935)
posted 14 hours, 47 minutes ago
If the club don't feel Amorim is the right man, he's not shown anything to prove he is. The system seems ill suited to the squad and even the league and he doesn't come across as having a galvanizing impact on the squad, crowd or club as a whole.
Then better to get rid sooner rather than later and it's not admitting he's not a good manager. He's shown he is but he looks like he's not cut out for what United need. At least so far so a cut and run approach for both this summer could make sense. Only the board can make that call. You could understand their reticence to back him given their has been little sign of improvement under him.
If I could find someone who I thought would galvanize the squad and play a better system then I would part ways if I was them before it harms his reputation too much, get someone in who plays with wingers to get the best out of this squad.
Major issue with that is, absolute lack of top tier attainable managers at the moment so your again looking at guys possibly ready to take the next step much like the Amorim appointment, in which they don't get time to make it work unless they prove the team is improving.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
He's worse than any manager before him at United. How is he a good manager? You've all said Eth is dogshiiit. If that's the case so is Amorim
There aren’t any bullet points?
Very misleading article.
The appointment of Amorim seems to typify United's failings.
First, he came in mid season after ETH has given a new deal and sacked
Amorim himself i think is a very good coach. But his tactics demand a quite specific type of player. So that requires a shift in your transfer policy targetting very specific sorts of players.
His preferred formation also makes fitting in some key player like Bruno a bit of a challenge, while maintaining a balanced line up.
Basically bringing him in requires a lot of changes just to get the right sort in for Amorim-ball, and that's ignoring the changes already needed to happen just to improve the quality of the squad generally.
So with limited spending power and a lot of changers needed, the appointment of Amorim is probably the biggest challenge Utd could have given themselves in replacing ETH.
The question has now become whether he stays beyond the summer. IMO he has to, but then you are committing to his signings and formation which may then leave Utd with unwanted players should he not survive long.
Define "operating as a top side".
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posted on 12/5/25
There does seem to be delusion amongst some of the united fans on here who think we are still operating as a top side.
---------------------------
Go on then... which posters? And what have they specifically said that fits your description?
posted on 12/5/25
Read this article:
Amorim threatening to leave
Some fans even said bring Anciolotti.
Brought up managers above us who definitely would not join us.
Wanting to sell Bruno expecting a replacement 🤣
Actual belief this side is underperforming, rather than it actually just being rubbish.
posted on 12/5/25
There is only about 15 of us on here these days.
Name and shame.
posted on 12/5/25
We will be moving on some players at the end of the season. Of course the EL result will affect the transfer kitty, but there will be a plan for a win, and one for without it. We will still bring in some players, and there appears to be a clearer strategy in place for that, of going for up and coming talent. Any transfer is a risk to see if they can make it to the top level in the market that we are in.
So whilst we have to be realistic, let's not try to be overly-negative. Life's too short and all that. Let's hope for improvement next season after a good summer.
posted on 12/5/25
comment by unitedwedontwin (U23240)
posted 12 minutes ago
Brought up managers above us who definitely would not join us.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Which managers would definitely not join us, and why?
posted on 12/5/25
I don't think any of the really up and coming managers will touch us with a 40ft pole if we sack Amorim before he's even had a single pre season and summer window.
We just go from calamity to the next one.
Is anyone now confident that under Jimbo and Berrada / Wilcox we are set for the future? I genuinely don't think they have made anything better yet. If anything we are getting worse.
posted on 12/5/25
Ancelotti once managed Everton, so isn't averse to getting in the lower half of the league.
Let's face it though... none of us know what kind of club we are in the minds of other managers, players etc... We don't really have a grasp on how the finances work or anything.
posted on 12/5/25
Has anyone suggested we try for Xavi?
posted on 12/5/25
I think us fans view Utd very different to how managers do.
Even with everything going on at Utd, most managers would jump at the chance to take over. Not many managers get a chance to manage one of the biggest clubs in the world, and managers have egos - in their eyes they will succeed where others have failed, indeed, that would be part of the attraction.
The big question really is can we find the right manager who can take us back to where we want to be.
You would still have some sort of transfer budget
posted on 12/5/25
comment by Ji Sung Park's Cousin (U2958)
posted 2 minutes ago
Has anyone suggested we try for Xavi?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
He appears to have filtered me for referring to his past contradictory comments
posted on 12/5/25
There does seem to be delusion amongst some of the united fans on here who think we are still operating as a top side.
....................................
Shut up you buffoon.
posted on 12/5/25
If the club don't feel Amorim is the right man, he's not shown anything to prove he is. The system seems ill suited to the squad and even the league and he doesn't come across as having a galvanizing impact on the squad, crowd or club as a whole.
Then better to get rid sooner rather than later and it's not admitting he's not a good manager. He's shown he is but he looks like he's not cut out for what United need. At least so far so a cut and run approach for both this summer could make sense. Only the board can make that call. You could understand their reticence to back him given their has been little sign of improvement under him.
If I could find someone who I thought would galvanize the squad and play a better system then I would part ways if I was them before it harms his reputation too much, get someone in who plays with wingers to get the best out of this squad.
Major issue with that is, absolute lack of top tier attainable managers at the moment so your again looking at guys possibly ready to take the next step much like the Amorim appointment, in which they don't get time to make it work unless they prove the team is improving.
posted on 12/5/25
comment by HB Fash (U21935)
posted 1 minute ago
If the club don't feel Amorim is the right man, he's not shown anything to prove he is. The system seems ill suited to the squad and even the league and he doesn't come across as having a galvanizing impact on the squad, crowd or club as a whole.
Then better to get rid sooner rather than later and it's not admitting he's not a good manager. He's shown he is but he looks like he's not cut out for what United need. At least so far so a cut and run approach for both this summer could make sense. Only the board can make that call. You could understand their reticence to back him given their has been little sign of improvement under him.
If I could find someone who I thought would galvanize the squad and play a better system then I would part ways if I was them before it harms his reputation too much, get someone in who plays with wingers to get the best out of this squad.
Major issue with that is, absolute lack of top tier attainable managers at the moment so your again looking at guys possibly ready to take the next step much like the Amorim appointment, in which they don't get time to make it work unless they prove the team is improving.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
If the club don't think Amorim is the right man nor his system then they should be sacking themselves surely? He's literally their appointment. They wanted him and he told them this is his way and he won't change course.
I don't feel like we have moved on at all from the Woodward days. It's just a different name on the door but it's still an absolute shambles.
If they get rid of Amorim before he's been given a chance than every single fan should be INEOS out as this is their appointment. Their doing and nobody else's.
posted on 12/5/25
comment by Tyranny of the majority (SE85) (U21241)
posted 42 minutes ago
I don't think any of the really up and coming managers will touch us with a 40ft pole if we sack Amorim before he's even had a single pre season and summer window.
We just go from calamity to the next one.
Is anyone now confident that under Jimbo and Berrada / Wilcox we are set for the future? I genuinely don't think they have made anything better yet. If anything we are getting worse.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
well this is the $6M question.
Are Jim and INEOS going to turn out to be what we fans all hoped they would be as minority owners running the football club and maybe outright owners of MUFC when they get their act together....or are they going to be no better than the Glazers have been and still are. (Which would take some doing BTW.)
posted on 12/5/25
You think "endless cuts" is a negative, yet we're the second biggest spenders in world football?
Cuts are necessary, I have worked with Utd on a project and they spent their whole budget of a piece of software not fit for purpose and didn't even scope it before making their decision. Now they can't afford a £700 a month subscription to cover the gaps.
I expect there is a lot of waste.
posted on 12/5/25
comment by kinsang (U3346)
posted 1 hour, 27 minutes ago
comment by Ji Sung Park's Cousin (U2958)
posted 2 minutes ago
Has anyone suggested we try for Xavi?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
He appears to have filtered me for referring to his past contradictory comments
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Same here
So, just for those that missed it:
Quotes from Culer regarding Xavi, April 2024
https://www.ja606.co.uk/articles/viewArticle/461420
"No. Too many areas of his management are below minimum standard for a top club. Also, when he won La Liga last year, it was with the record for most 1-0 scorelines. Think it was 8 in total and the majority of those games Barca were very poor and bailed out by individual brilliance.
He also plays turgid long ball football.
Avoid."
"Trust me he's a garbage manager and there's a reason he was being slated by everyone before he announced his departure."
"This season Barca have been woeful and it's down to Xavi.
Shocking football, no tactics or attacking patterns.
Don't believe me?? Look into why he's leaving. He's trash."
"he's a Spanish version of Ole believe me."
"Xavi is a poor manager and Barca are horrid to watch."
posted on 12/5/25
comment by Ji Sung Park's Cousin (U2958)
posted 40 minutes ago
comment by kinsang (U3346)
posted 1 hour, 27 minutes ago
comment by Ji Sung Park's Cousin (U2958)
posted 2 minutes ago
Has anyone suggested we try for Xavi?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
He appears to have filtered me for referring to his past contradictory comments
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Same here
So, just for those that missed it:
Quotes from Culer regarding Xavi, April 2024
https://www.ja606.co.uk/articles/viewArticle/461420
"No. Too many areas of his management are below minimum standard for a top club. Also, when he won La Liga last year, it was with the record for most 1-0 scorelines. Think it was 8 in total and the majority of those games Barca were very poor and bailed out by individual brilliance.
He also plays turgid long ball football.
Avoid."
"Trust me he's a garbage manager and there's a reason he was being slated by everyone before he announced his departure."
"This season Barca have been woeful and it's down to Xavi.
Shocking football, no tactics or attacking patterns.
Don't believe me?? Look into why he's leaving. He's trash."
"he's a Spanish version of Ole believe me."
"Xavi is a poor manager and Barca are horrid to watch."
----------------------------------------------------------------------
And this is exactly why Culer will always remain of filter.
No way should he ever be allowed to breed.
posted on 12/5/25
As much as a EL final win would be good, and subsequent CL qualification as a result would be a big financial boost, could that also be a double edged sword in the efforts to get rid of all the fringe players and big salaried players that are deemed surplus, due to the likelihood of them having a 25% CL salary bonus in their contracts?
posted on 12/5/25
There does seem to be delusion amongst some of the united fans on here who think we are still operating as a top side
Who are these fans? What have they said that made you come to this conclusion?
posted on 13/5/25
comment by HB Fash (U21935)
posted 14 hours, 47 minutes ago
If the club don't feel Amorim is the right man, he's not shown anything to prove he is. The system seems ill suited to the squad and even the league and he doesn't come across as having a galvanizing impact on the squad, crowd or club as a whole.
Then better to get rid sooner rather than later and it's not admitting he's not a good manager. He's shown he is but he looks like he's not cut out for what United need. At least so far so a cut and run approach for both this summer could make sense. Only the board can make that call. You could understand their reticence to back him given their has been little sign of improvement under him.
If I could find someone who I thought would galvanize the squad and play a better system then I would part ways if I was them before it harms his reputation too much, get someone in who plays with wingers to get the best out of this squad.
Major issue with that is, absolute lack of top tier attainable managers at the moment so your again looking at guys possibly ready to take the next step much like the Amorim appointment, in which they don't get time to make it work unless they prove the team is improving.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
He's worse than any manager before him at United. How is he a good manager? You've all said Eth is dogshiiit. If that's the case so is Amorim
posted on 13/5/25
There aren’t any bullet points?
Very misleading article.
posted on 13/5/25
The appointment of Amorim seems to typify United's failings.
First, he came in mid season after ETH has given a new deal and sacked
Amorim himself i think is a very good coach. But his tactics demand a quite specific type of player. So that requires a shift in your transfer policy targetting very specific sorts of players.
His preferred formation also makes fitting in some key player like Bruno a bit of a challenge, while maintaining a balanced line up.
Basically bringing him in requires a lot of changes just to get the right sort in for Amorim-ball, and that's ignoring the changes already needed to happen just to improve the quality of the squad generally.
So with limited spending power and a lot of changers needed, the appointment of Amorim is probably the biggest challenge Utd could have given themselves in replacing ETH.
The question has now become whether he stays beyond the summer. IMO he has to, but then you are committing to his signings and formation which may then leave Utd with unwanted players should he not survive long.
posted on 13/5/25
Define "operating as a top side".
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