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posted on 28/5/25

I wonder if Celtics transfer spending will reflect on whether BR will be there the season after or not?

I think we can both rule out Miller, too many big teams sniffing about and too many average clubs from better leagues interested.

His agent said that he has advised against staying in scotland and joining celtic as he needs the best guarantee for regular football. I think that only happens at celtic if players leave.

comment by JFK (U8919)

posted on 28/5/25

i thought scales started poorly but grew into the final, he's not the long term answer. Issue with rocky is that he is right footed and rodgers wants a left footer at that side. Trusty is schite.

left back, whether anyone likes it or not Tierney is not going to play 60 games next season and our record of purchasing left backs is so poor that taylor is the best we've had since tierney left. we wont replace him with anyone better, thats a worry.

CDM - need a brute, push mcgregor up a bit if we need to. we dont need a cdm domestically but anyone good enough at the role can move into the cm role easily. i'm in no rush to get rid of Reo, no other midfielder we have can do what he does.

need a winger, possibly two, if we get offered 15 + for Kuhn we should bite their hand off.

Idah isnt good enough, he just isnt. Striker is a must.

comment by JFK (U8919)

posted on 28/5/25

I wonder if Celtics transfer spending will reflect on whether BR will be there the season after or not?
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he spent about 40 million, we are scoring a lot of goals and yet somehow it doesnt feel like it.

we talk about depth, if you schite 9 million for idah and 6 on trusty then thats where the money goes.

posted on 28/5/25

I don’t have all the stats, but it seems like Rogers doesn’t play his ‘own signings’ when the heat is on (with the exception of Engles?).
So who do we want leading the recruitment. A summer for Paul Tisdale to step up?

posted on 28/5/25

comment by System-Addict ••• ••••• •• (U9239)
posted 7 seconds ago
I don’t have all the stats, but it seems like Rogers doesn’t play his ‘own signings’ when the heat is on (with the exception of Engles?).
So who do we want leading the recruitment. A summer for Paul Tisdale to step up?
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comment by JFK (U8919)

posted on 28/5/25

rodgers talks about having pace and power, and he has that in idah.

what he doesnt have is everything else, an ability to stay onside would be nice, infuriating stuff.

posted on 28/5/25

comment by System-Addict ••• ••&... (U9239)
posted 26 minutes ago
I don’t have all the stats, but it seems like Rogers doesn’t play his ‘own signings’ when the heat is on (with the exception of Engles?).
So who do we want leading the recruitment. A summer for Paul Tisdale to step up?
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Who are his signings?

Idah and Engles started the cup final. Kuhn started the cup final. Bernardo started the cup final. Schmeichel started the cup final.

That's 5 of his signings since he returned.

McGregor and Taylor were there from his first spell. That leaves CCV, AJ, Maeda and Scales as "not his players"

You could argue that Hatate would have started if fit but are you saying Rodgers shouldn't play him because he was already there? Should Rodgers not play the good players that previous managers signed?

posted on 28/5/25

comment by Call Sign: Going for 122 (U3627)
posted 8 seconds ago
comment by System-Addict ••• ••&... (U9239)
posted 26 minutes ago
I don’t have all the stats, but it seems like Rogers doesn’t play his ‘own signings’ when the heat is on (with the exception of Engles?).
So who do we want leading the recruitment. A summer for Paul Tisdale to step up?
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Who are his signings?

Idah and Engles started the cup final. Kuhn started the cup final. Bernardo started the cup final. Schmeichel started the cup final.

That's 5 of his signings since he returned.

McGregor and Taylor were there from his first spell. That leaves CCV, AJ, Maeda and Scales as "not his players"

You could argue that Hatate would have started if fit but are you saying Rodgers shouldn't play him because he was already there? Should Rodgers not play the good players that previous managers signed?
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then you go back to his first spell also .... Sinclair, Edouard, Dembele, Ajer, Ntcham.

comment by lauders (U9757)

posted on 28/5/25

Would be delighted if you sold Hatate

comment by JFK (U8919)

posted on 28/5/25

pretty sure taylor was a lennon signing, and that ajer arrived before rodgers.

he wanted idah, we know that much for sure.

comment by Silver (U6112)

posted on 28/5/25

Engels has too much to offer in AM to become our CDM. That said, it depends if we buy better for the AM role. We used to laugh about stockpiling midfielders but the SCF showed just how bereft of quality we are when injuries inevitably strike. That said I could see Engels play any position except winger. He moves so well and will make us good money one day.

posted on 28/5/25

comment by lauders (U9757)
posted 13 minutes ago
Would be delighted if you sold Hatate
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He is a wonderful player. A joy to watch when he is on his game.

My controversial opinion about him moving on was about refreshing the team and he is the 2nd longest serving midlfielder

I would say he performs at his best about 30% of the season. When he does he is a joy. When he doesn't it is noticable

posted on 28/5/25

comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 2 minutes ago
Engels has too much to offer in AM to become our CDM. That said, it depends if we buy better for the AM role. We used to laugh about stockpiling midfielders but the SCF showed just how bereft of quality we are when injuries inevitably strike. That said I could see Engels play any position except winger. He moves so well and will make us good money one day.
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as we were told numerous times with Alfie... he is schite cos he is schite in OF games

posted on 28/5/25

AM positions - I think we need to move on Hatate and replace him

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Admin...

posted on 28/5/25

comment by CelticTornado (U4316)
posted 6 minutes ago
AM positions - I think we need to move on Hatate and replace him

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Admin...
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I stand by my controversial opinion. Absolutely wonderful player but if we talk about refreshing the squad as apparently it is a bit stale - who moves on? Not the recent signings

posted on 28/5/25

Don't watch much of Celtic but Engles has been average to schite most of the times i've seen him.

Lennon Miller would be a great signing for Celtic but he does nothing to solve the issue of needing a DM. Still got to sign him if you can, but if I was him i'd want to see the gap in the team i'm going straight into or I go elsewhere.

I'd be wary of Schmeichel going into next season mainly because that was Butland, top season, howler in the cup final and absolutely reeking of pash the following season.

I reckon 4-5 good signings and you should be able to win an Old Firm next season.

comment by JFK (U8919)

posted on 28/5/25

we won 2 old firms this season

and 2 trophies

posted on 28/5/25

Don't watch much of Celtic but Engles has been average to schite most of the times i've seen him.

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You sound like my son as thats what he says

Engles has been good. People are focusing on goals and assists but when you watch him play he is everywhere. Some engine on him. He is always involved in the build up of our play when we don't do the stupid horseshoe thing.

Can he be better? Yes
Can he add goals and assists to his game? Yes
Is he being judged for the transfer fee? Yes
Has he been scheidt? No

posted on 28/5/25

comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 3 hours, 52 minutes ago
comment by Call Sign: Going for 122 (U3627)
posted 8 seconds ago
comment by System-Addict ••• ••&... (U9239)
posted 26 minutes ago
I don’t have all the stats, but it seems like Rogers doesn’t play his ‘own signings’ when the heat is on (with the exception of Engles?).
So who do we want leading the recruitment. A summer for Paul Tisdale to step up?
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Who are his signings?

Idah and Engles started the cup final. Kuhn started the cup final. Bernardo started the cup final. Schmeichel started the cup final.

That's 5 of his signings since he returned.

McGregor and Taylor were there from his first spell. That leaves CCV, AJ, Maeda and Scales as "not his players"

You could argue that Hatate would have started if fit but are you saying Rodgers shouldn't play him because he was already there? Should Rodgers not play the good players that previous managers signed?
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then you go back to his first spell also .... Sinclair, Edouard, Dembele, Ajer, Ntcham.
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I did say I didn’t have all the stats 😉
But the SCF team picked itself with who was available no? On another day Jota and Hatate start. Of course you play your best players - regardless of who signed them.
I’m just asking the question if our elite manager makes elite signings? He dropped 2 out of 3 of his biggest investments when the heat was on (Idah & Trusty), if I remember correctly?

posted on 28/5/25

comment by System-Addict ••• ••••• •• (U9239)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 3 hours, 52 minutes ago
comment by Call Sign: Going for 122 (U3627)
posted 8 seconds ago
comment by System-Addict ••• ••&... (U9239)
posted 26 minutes ago
I don’t have all the stats, but it seems like Rogers doesn’t play his ‘own signings’ when the heat is on (with the exception of Engles?).
So who do we want leading the recruitment. A summer for Paul Tisdale to step up?
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Who are his signings?

Idah and Engles started the cup final. Kuhn started the cup final. Bernardo started the cup final. Schmeichel started the cup final.

That's 5 of his signings since he returned.

McGregor and Taylor were there from his first spell. That leaves CCV, AJ, Maeda and Scales as "not his players"

You could argue that Hatate would have started if fit but are you saying Rodgers shouldn't play him because he was already there? Should Rodgers not play the good players that previous managers signed?
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then you go back to his first spell also .... Sinclair, Edouard, Dembele, Ajer, Ntcham.
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I did say I didn’t have all the stats 😉
But the SCF team picked itself with who was available no? On another day Jota and Hatate start. Of course you play your best players - regardless of who signed them.
I’m just asking the question if our elite manager makes elite signings? He dropped 2 out of 3 of his biggest investments when the heat was on (Idah & Trusty), if I remember correctly?
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Im almost certain he had zero ro do with the finances of those deals however.

He may have said to the board and the recruitment team he wants them above other targets and to prioritise them, but in terms of how much is paid for them he wont have had anything to do with that.

he will leave the professionals to deal with that.

Id say that Engels, Schmeichal, Jota, Bernardo, Schlupp, Idah, & Trusty, were easily the biggest deals he has done this season ... Jota is dead and Trusty is the only player that didnt feature from that final? Might be wrong?

comment by lauders (U9757)

posted on 28/5/25

comment by Call Sign: Going for 122 (U3627)
posted 28 minutes ago
Don't watch much of Celtic but Engles has been average to schite most of the times i've seen him.

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You sound like my son as thats what he says

Engles has been good. People are focusing on goals and assists but when you watch him play he is everywhere. Some engine on him. He is always involved in the build up of our play when we don't do the stupid horseshoe thing.

Can he be better? Yes
Can he add goals and assists to his game? Yes
Is he being judged for the transfer fee? Yes
Has he been scheidt? No
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I think most celtic fans are showing some mental gymnastics with Engels.

Yes he is judged on the transfer fee... by tims.


If he was £3m from Motherwell you would say he has flattered to deceive

posted on 28/5/25

comment by lauders (U9757)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by Call Sign: Going for 122 (U3627)
posted 28 minutes ago
Don't watch much of Celtic but Engles has been average to schite most of the times i've seen him.

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You sound like my son as thats what he says

Engles has been good. People are focusing on goals and assists but when you watch him play he is everywhere. Some engine on him. He is always involved in the build up of our play when we don't do the stupid horseshoe thing.

Can he be better? Yes
Can he add goals and assists to his game? Yes
Is he being judged for the transfer fee? Yes
Has he been scheidt? No
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I think most celtic fans are showing some mental gymnastics with Engels.

Yes he is judged on the transfer fee... by tims.


If he was £3m from Motherwell you would say he has flattered to deceive
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Id actually say McCowan has flattered to deceive

posted on 28/5/25

I’d be moving Bernardo on long before Hatate. The latter was badly missed on Sat, while Bernardo was pretty much a waste of space throughout.

BR’s chopping and changing between Scales & Trusty this season has been pretty baffling at times, but ultimately neither are good enough. Agree that Nawrocki has been unfortunate not to be more involved.

On Idah, I’ve honestly tried to see positives in his game, and he’s actually delivered at times … but again, ultimately he doesn’t look up to it as a regular starter.

Back up LB is going to be an issue. Schlupp initially looked like an upgrade on GT, but fell away big time and was phoning it in on his rare outings latterly. Rumours he’s heading back to Leicester … fine by me. Really don’t rate GT, but we’re hopeless at recruiting LBs, so feck knows whether trying to keep him is good or bad?

Kasper will hopefully be OK for a final season, but as I’ve said already, he could do with losing some timber!

Yang was back to being his old self on Sat … disappointingly pash. Meh.

Finally, for the umpteenth window in a row, WE NEED A FECKING DEFENSIVE MIDFIELDER … A proper one, who can actually tackle, win headers, and generally compete physically. We’re such a soft touch out of possession. Have been for years.

comment by Silver (U6112)

posted on 28/5/25

comment by Call Sign: Going for 122 (U3627)
posted 1 hour, 20 minutes ago
comment by lauders (U9757)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by Call Sign: Going for 122 (U3627)
posted 28 minutes ago
Don't watch much of Celtic but Engles has been average to schite most of the times i've seen him.

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You sound like my son as thats what he says

Engles has been good. People are focusing on goals and assists but when you watch him play he is everywhere. Some engine on him. He is always involved in the build up of our play when we don't do the stupid horseshoe thing.

Can he be better? Yes
Can he add goals and assists to his game? Yes
Is he being judged for the transfer fee? Yes
Has he been scheidt? No
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I think most celtic fans are showing some mental gymnastics with Engels.

Yes he is judged on the transfer fee... by tims.


If he was £3m from Motherwell you would say he has flattered to deceive
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Id actually say McCowan has flattered to deceive
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Jeezo, come back in from an afternoon's work and what have I started?

Of course all players are judged by their fee. Less their wages for some daft reason.

Facking cheek bringing Morelos into it. Yeah he was scheite in derby games and inevitably got judged but more importantly it was obvious he was a zoomer and that was the the main basis for the hilarity and ultimately it was his downfall. I well remember the phase of bears making excuses for him until even they could see right through him.

Engels may have been scheite in derby games, TBH most of our team has this year, but most importantly he looks the part to the expert eye and afaik doesn't get pashed down Sanctuary every chance possible or find bombs under his McLaren etc.

Maybe I should take a leaf out the bear Morelos playbook and claim yeez are scared of him?

posted on 28/5/25

Dave

Completely disagree on Bernardo. All of our good play that wasn't horseshoe was through him.

No idea where he is a scapegoat. He gave it away twice. Is that why?

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