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posted on 11/9/25

The issue isn't with guns folks

posted on 11/9/25

comment by CurrentlyInChina (U11181)
posted 6 minutes ago

comment by Snooker_49 (U10665)
posted 1 hour, 28 minutes ago
Let's be honest if it was a Muslim that held extremist views and said controversial stuff and got killed no one would care and it would be largely celebrated.
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Exactly this .
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Like some muslims don't celebrate or care when someone they don't like gets killed.
Get in line, there's plenty of idiots with extreme beliefs all ove the place

posted on 11/9/25

As politics becomes less and less civilised, those in the extreme positions are more prepared to take more extreme action.

It is breaking down because people like Trump speak in aggressive terms and take aggressive action. Whether its about immigration, China, tariffs etc, across the board the tone and the action is aggressive, characterised by threats. Coupled with that, blatant lies, misleading information and the complete denial and obliteration of any counter argument sees politics and debate shifted from a more civilised position to one of warfare where you are either with us or the enemy!

It used to be the case that if you were a bit of a fanatic, on the extremes of a political position, then you may take action like egging someone, or pouring a Mcshake over their heads. Now politics has become so fractured that those on the extremes truly are occupying an extreme position and prepared to take very extreme action.

History will not judge these times kindly and people like Trump are front and centre of this collapse.

I have observed over my life that things often go in cycles, and after a period of a certain 'way of life' society pushes back and things change. IMO i think that a lot of what we are seeing now is a response to the period of globalisation. It has stopped working, for communities, for societies, for countries, for economies, and some of the self-induced impacts of it are now being highlighted as a cause of our issues - Open borders, mass immigration of foreign cheap labour, exploitation of cheap foreign work forces abroad and the associated impact on our economies and cultures. The response to that is what we are seeing now IMO across many countries, but I am hopeful that the response to the current aggressive uncivilised politics of today will be something better, a natural positive rebound as the approach of the likes of Trump is, eventually, rejected by the masses.

posted on 11/9/25

comment by Sam Irving (U1734)
posted 19 minutes ago
If Jimmy Saville had gotten a 12 year old pregnant then Pranks would be calling his death a tragedy
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whatever takes the eyes away from him.

posted on 11/9/25

comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 9 minutes ago
As politics becomes less and less civilised, those in the extreme positions are more prepared to take more extreme action.

It is breaking down because people like Trump speak in aggressive terms and take aggressive action. Whether its about immigration, China, tariffs etc, across the board the tone and the action is aggressive, characterised by threats. Coupled with that, blatant lies, misleading information and the complete denial and obliteration of any counter argument sees politics and debate shifted from a more civilised position to one of warfare where you are either with us or the enemy!

It used to be the case that if you were a bit of a fanatic, on the extremes of a political position, then you may take action like egging someone, or pouring a Mcshake over their heads. Now politics has become so fractured that those on the extremes truly are occupying an extreme position and prepared to take very extreme action.

History will not judge these times kindly and people like Trump are front and centre of this collapse.

I have observed over my life that things often go in cycles, and after a period of a certain 'way of life' society pushes back and things change. IMO i think that a lot of what we are seeing now is a response to the period of globalisation. It has stopped working, for communities, for societies, for countries, for economies, and some of the self-induced impacts of it are now being highlighted as a cause of our issues - Open borders, mass immigration of foreign cheap labour, exploitation of cheap foreign work forces abroad and the associated impact on our economies and cultures. The response to that is what we are seeing now IMO across many countries, but I am hopeful that the response to the current aggressive uncivilised politics of today will be something better, a natural positive rebound as the approach of the likes of Trump is, eventually, rejected by the masses.
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It’s people getting poorer and struggling with the cost of living, enjoying worse services and social support, and seeing worse outcomes, whilst they watch a tiny minority getting exponentially richer and more powerful.

The *exploitation* of globalisation by capitalists (not globalisation itself) is just one of several precipitating factors of the above.

posted on 11/9/25

comment by CurrentlyInChina (U11181)
posted 15 minutes ago
comment by Snooker_49 (U10665)
posted 1 hour, 28 minutes ago
Let's be honest if it was a Muslim that held extremist views and said controversial stuff and got killed no one would care and it would be largely celebrated.
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Exactly this .
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Unquestionably so. Mainstream American Right discourse was on a spectrum from crickets to approval when a Minnesota Democratic legislator was murdered by a MAGA supporter. Trump sent no condolences. He made jokes about Nancy Pelosi's husband having his skull fractured in a hammer attack. Now there is widespread blaming of the Left for Kirk's death and calls for retribution. Last week we saw the extrajudicial killing of alleged drug smugglers on a boat in international waters by the US military. It's fairly clear that a scary proportion of the American commentariat and government is now so close to seeing political violence as an acceptable tool for the conservative establishment to wield, and only an outrage when it is turned on them. But, I suspect, quite politically useful. Moral questions aside, taking pleasure in Kirk's assassination only makes escalation of fascism more likely.

posted on 11/9/25

nah.....extremists always justify their actions no matter which side they are on

posted on 11/9/25

Not just that, there was literally a school shootings in the US yesterday and no one seems to care. Brown/black people or kids being shot is so normal and accepted in American society that no one gives a sh-t.

posted on 11/9/25

comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 18 minutes ago
As politics becomes less and less civilised, those in the extreme positions are more prepared to take more extreme action.

It is breaking down because people like Trump speak in aggressive terms and take aggressive action. Whether its about immigration, China, tariffs etc, across the board the tone and the action is aggressive, characterised by threats. Coupled with that, blatant lies, misleading information and the complete denial and obliteration of any counter argument sees politics and debate shifted from a more civilised position to one of warfare where you are either with us or the enemy!

It used to be the case that if you were a bit of a fanatic, on the extremes of a political position, then you may take action like egging someone, or pouring a Mcshake over their heads. Now politics has become so fractured that those on the extremes truly are occupying an extreme position and prepared to take very extreme action.

History will not judge these times kindly and people like Trump are front and centre of this collapse.

I have observed over my life that things often go in cycles, and after a period of a certain 'way of life' society pushes back and things change. IMO i think that a lot of what we are seeing now is a response to the period of globalisation. It has stopped working, for communities, for societies, for countries, for economies, and some of the self-induced impacts of it are now being highlighted as a cause of our issues - Open borders, mass immigration of foreign cheap labour, exploitation of cheap foreign work forces abroad and the associated impact on our economies and cultures. The response to that is what we are seeing now IMO across many countries, but I am hopeful that the response to the current aggressive uncivilised politics of today will be something better, a natural positive rebound as the approach of the likes of Trump is, eventually, rejected by the masses.
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You’re acting like this kind of political violence is out of character for America, when it’s one of the defining characteristics of their political world and has been since its inception.

posted on 11/9/25

comment by IanWrightWrightWright (U12750)
posted 24 minutes ago
comment by CurrentlyInChina (U11181)
posted 6 minutes ago

comment by Snooker_49 (U10665)
posted 1 hour, 28 minutes ago
Let's be honest if it was a Muslim that held extremist views and said controversial stuff and got killed no one would care and it would be largely celebrated.
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Exactly this .
__________________________________________

Like some muslims don't celebrate or care when someone they don't like gets killed.
Get in line, there's plenty of idiots with extreme beliefs all ove the place
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Found the Islamaphobe

posted on 11/9/25

I never heard of him until this. Unfortunate kids had to witness that but he comes across as a nasty bit of work. Did he deserve this? Probably not but he certainly didn’t help himself

posted on 11/9/25

comment by Darren The King Fletcher (U10026)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 18 minutes ago
As politics becomes less and less civilised, those in the extreme positions are more prepared to take more extreme action.

It is breaking down because people like Trump speak in aggressive terms and take aggressive action. Whether its about immigration, China, tariffs etc, across the board the tone and the action is aggressive, characterised by threats. Coupled with that, blatant lies, misleading information and the complete denial and obliteration of any counter argument sees politics and debate shifted from a more civilised position to one of warfare where you are either with us or the enemy!

It used to be the case that if you were a bit of a fanatic, on the extremes of a political position, then you may take action like egging someone, or pouring a Mcshake over their heads. Now politics has become so fractured that those on the extremes truly are occupying an extreme position and prepared to take very extreme action.

History will not judge these times kindly and people like Trump are front and centre of this collapse.

I have observed over my life that things often go in cycles, and after a period of a certain 'way of life' society pushes back and things change. IMO i think that a lot of what we are seeing now is a response to the period of globalisation. It has stopped working, for communities, for societies, for countries, for economies, and some of the self-induced impacts of it are now being highlighted as a cause of our issues - Open borders, mass immigration of foreign cheap labour, exploitation of cheap foreign work forces abroad and the associated impact on our economies and cultures. The response to that is what we are seeing now IMO across many countries, but I am hopeful that the response to the current aggressive uncivilised politics of today will be something better, a natural positive rebound as the approach of the likes of Trump is, eventually, rejected by the masses.
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You’re acting like this kind of political violence is out of character for America, when it’s one of the defining characteristics of their political world and has been since its inception.
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I think you're both right. US political history is laced with violence (though not exceptional in that respect). And it's also true that there have been fluctuations in that tendency of the years. The 60s were more febrile than the 90s, for instance. And today you have a perfect storm of digital technology driving radicalised discourse & misinformation along with sustained anti-democratic oligarchic efforts using newly available channels to harness violently nativist and illiberal sentiment.

comment by db_mufc (U1463)

posted on 11/9/25

comment by Irishred (U2539)
posted 7 minutes ago
I never heard of him until this. Unfortunate kids had to witness that but he comes across as a nasty bit of work. Did he deserve this? Probably not but he certainly didn’t help himself
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Nasty piece of work because he’s not a lunatic lefty who thinks there are 45 genders?

posted on 11/9/25

If this was the UK then the shooter is already Muslim before anyone knows who it is

posted on 11/9/25

comment by db_mufc (U1463)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Irishred (U2539)
posted 7 minutes ago
I never heard of him until this. Unfortunate kids had to witness that but he comes across as a nasty bit of work. Did he deserve this? Probably not but he certainly didn’t help himself
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Nasty piece of work because he’s not a lunatic lefty who thinks there are 45 genders?
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Nah, probably because he said if his 10 year old daughter was impregnated he would force her to give birth.

posted on 11/9/25

Some of his views

-Profoundly conservative on gay rights. Didn’t believe in gay marriage. Said being gay was an “error” and compared to drug addiction.
- didn’t believe in abortion in almost any circumstances.
-called for a ban on all trans gender affirming care.
-he spread falsehoods about voter fraud, Covid and other conspiracy theories.
-suggested he opposed birth control and had very traditional views on women and how they should live their lives.
-claimed the Great Replacement Theory was UK government policy.


This isn’t lunacy apparently lads

posted on 11/9/25

RR, yeah that’s true. Though I think Kirk being so high profile creates a different perception, pretty sure some Democrats were killed recently and there wasn’t the same coverage. No doubt that’s been the case in many over years over the decades.

posted on 11/9/25

Like some muslims don't celebrate or care when someone they don't like gets killed.
Get in line, there's plenty of idiots with extreme beliefs all ove the place
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Found the Islamaphobe
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always the victims.....can do no wrong

posted on 11/9/25

comment by Sam Irving (U1734)
posted 6 minutes ago
If this was the UK then the shooter is already Muslim before anyone knows who it is
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Actually that's a good point. There would already be protests outside mosques by this point in the UK(England). America seems like a more reasonable and civilised place.

comment by Tu mEze (U3732)

posted on 11/9/25

comment by db_mufc (U1463)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Irishred (U2539)
posted 7 minutes ago
I never heard of him until this. Unfortunate kids had to witness that but he comes across as a nasty bit of work. Did he deserve this? Probably not but he certainly didn’t help himself
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Nasty piece of work because he’s not a lunatic lefty who thinks there are 45 genders?
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Don't be ridiculous. He's said plenty of foul things about raped children, black people and Muslims.

posted on 11/9/25

comment by IanWrightWrightWright (U12750)
posted 1 minute ago
Like some muslims don't celebrate or care when someone they don't like gets killed.
Get in line, there's plenty of idiots with extreme beliefs all ove the place
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Found the Islamaphobe
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always the victims.....can do no wrong
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Thank you for providing more evidence.

posted on 11/9/25

comment by IanWrightWrightWright (U12750)
posted 5 minutes ago
Like some muslims don't celebrate or care when someone they don't like gets killed.
Get in line, there's plenty of idiots with extreme beliefs all ove the place
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Found the Islamaphobe
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always the victims.....can do no wrong
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Curious why you choose for your user name a guy who is passionately committed to inclusivity and who would call you a racist сunt if he were on this thread.

posted on 11/9/25

comment by db_mufc (U1463)
posted 18 minutes ago
comment by Irishred (U2539)
posted 7 minutes ago
I never heard of him until this. Unfortunate kids had to witness that but he comes across as a nasty bit of work. Did he deserve this? Probably not but he certainly didn’t help himself
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Nasty piece of work because he’s not a lunatic lefty who thinks there are 45 genders?
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Yeah the real issue facing America is some bloke wearing a skirt, not gun control, he gargles, choking on his own blood, after being shot in the neck.

posted on 11/9/25

you have no idea what/who a racist is......just spouting hate

posted on 11/9/25

comment by db_mufc (U1463)
posted 21 minutes ago
comment by Irishred (U2539)
posted 7 minutes ago
I never heard of him until this. Unfortunate kids had to witness that but he comes across as a nasty bit of work. Did he deserve this? Probably not but he certainly didn’t help himself
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Nasty piece of work because he’s not a lunatic lefty who thinks there are 45 genders?
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Spot the guy who watches GBeebies!

Nasty Lefties = Care about inclusivity.

Level headed Righties = Kids getting shot is worth it to maintain our 2nd amendment rights.

I generally don't know how the world gets past this complete divide in morals and thinking.

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