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posted on 15/9/25

He works very hard But hes been utter dung in most games . If hes not giving it away hes often passing to the wrong foot .
Engels looks so much better

comment by JFK (U8919)

posted on 15/9/25

i actually thought in moments where both engels and nygren are on the park they have linked up well.

engels doesn't deserve this nonsense tbh, he's a good player.

posted on 15/9/25

comment by Changing my name from My POV - but not decided... (U10636)
posted 1 hour, 29 minutes ago
comment by Dave The Jackal (U22179)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Changing my name from My POV - but not decided what to change it to yet (U10636)
posted 39 minutes ago
comment by PointyBirds - The man you trusted isn't Wavy Gravy at all! (U21890)
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He is better being slipped in behind his man and using his pace.
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Aren’t we all.
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BTW, being serious on that point for a minute … If true, why would we be targeting forward players whose main attribute is that? To play in a BR team for starters, and more generally for us against pretty much any domestic opposition, who are camped in? What would be the point? That was Kyogo’s game, till BR ruined him. Also why I was against the Vardy links, as that’s still his main game. Oh, it’s also Ian Nacho’s game … or was before he ate that sofa. Same logic would apply to wide men though … they absolutely need to be able to take on and beat defenders. Based on Bollockwasher’s 2 games to date, Jamesie will be starting now for the foreseeable.
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You’d like to think you’d have seen something by now to suggest that he’s a player that would make some kind of contribution, but there’s been literally nothing so far.
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Literally?

posted on 15/9/25



Well, maybe in the modern usage…

posted on 15/9/25

comment by Call Sign (U3627)
posted 35 minutes ago
comment by Dave The Jackal (U22179)
posted 52 minutes ago
Call Sign … Don’t think Kuhn was this anonymous initially, was he? Might’ve been, but it would be some going.

Cheers for the Barleo shout in Linlithgow BTW. Top quality. Mentioned it yesterday, but not sure how far back you’ve read on this thread.
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Yeah cracking wee place. I haven't read far enough back to see it. It was a work colleague that lives there who recommended it for us for a work lunch

Kuhm was more than anonymous. I was at Easter Rd giving him absolute pelters for being a scheidt bag and not taking anyone on. That was the case for his first month or so and even then it took until the summer break for him to really get going.

I was all for cutting our losses on Kuhn that summer
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Fair enough re Kuhn. Fingers crossed we can maybe look forward to punting Bollockwasher for big bucks in due course anaw then.

posted on 15/9/25

Shout out to Maeda yesterday. By all accounts he wasn’t great (again), but took his goal very well … and actually celebrated it. Have a huge amount of sympathy for his situation, if it’s true that he’s been wanting away since Jan. IF that is the case, as BR said this week, then why the fook didn’t we cash in, on the back of a season when his stock is never likely to be higher. The guy’s given us a few good years, and that’s 100% our model, isn’t it? Obviously he’d have to be replaced, but we’d 6-7 months to work on that … right? I guess Jota’s injury became problematic, but still it doesn’t seem like we’ve handled the whole thing well at all … again.

comment by JFK (U8919)

posted on 15/9/25

i'd be pi$$ed if someone's incompetence cost me 50k a week to be fair.

posted on 15/9/25

comment by Lawwellnuts (U2992)
posted 2 hours, 10 minutes ago
comment by HB Fash (U21935)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Lawwellnuts (U2992)
posted 1 hour, 32 minutes ago
comment by HB Fash (U21935)
posted 1 hour, 1 minute ago
Forget Martin for the moment. These new owners are showing how incompetent they are.

See that "investment" they made in the summer.

A net spend of 3m euros according to TM. Absolutely nothing the old board couldn't have matched.

The majority of it on the dodgiest of deals with Thelwell giving it to his former club for Chermiti, a 10m amateur player.

It might be starting to dawn on fans that the takeover is nothing more than more of the same. The last board were skint and tried, these coonts are loaded, tight and trying to pull the wool over our eyes. Plus every bit as incompetent and more pig headed on the early evidence.

They need to bite the bullet today, get him out and Stewart and Thelwell to follow by the end of the week to recoup any good will.

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Wait. Hang on.

I posted about this the other day that your owners couldn’t give a flying fwck about what 40 odd thousand Scots think of their latest marketing punt (because that’s all it is) when they are likely fast asleep in their kips thousands of miles away.

And it was suggested that this was just some fantasy.

I think it’s starting to dawn on your support as to how minimal this little venture is to them when set against their overall businesses.

They’re not going to throw out a management team they’ve put in place because some whining Jocks from over the pond demand it. They couldn’t care less.
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We'll see in time.

I suggest when they see the ticket sales for the Europa in the next few weeks they will swiftly change their mind.

I think at the moment they believe it's teething issues with a new squad and manager or at least are still clinging onto that hope to save them a couple million.

They can be forgiven for getting it wrong once if they get rid of him soon, the next appointment needs to be spot on and a serious look at Stewart and Thelwell being replaced, those 3 are the issue at the moment.
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Well yes, chances are it carries on like this then like any other business you start to look beyond the workforce and on to the management.

But that's not happening during this season.

As for Europa sales, how many unsold seats do you think there'll be? 5,000/ That's £750k over the 4 games. No way does a multi billion pound organisation change course for that paltry amount.
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Not happening this season

Guarantee Russell Martin isn't Rangers manager next May.

comment by Silver (U6112)

posted on 15/9/25

comment by Dave The Jackal (U22179)
posted 52 minutes ago
Shout out to Maeda yesterday. By all accounts he wasn’t great (again), but took his goal very well … and actually celebrated it. Have a huge amount of sympathy for his situation, if it’s true that he’s been wanting away since Jan. IF that is the case, as BR said this week, then why the fook didn’t we cash in, on the back of a season when his stock is never likely to be higher. The guy’s given us a few good years, and that’s 100% our model, isn’t it? Obviously he’d have to be replaced, but we’d 6-7 months to work on that … right? I guess Jota’s injury became problematic, but still it doesn’t seem like we’ve handled the whole thing well at all … again.
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A point made a few times and one that is more likely to tip dd over the edge omtp action than any purchase or lack of.

comment by Silver (U6112)

posted on 15/9/25

omtp = into

posted on 15/9/25

comment by HB Fash (U21935)
posted 21 minutes ago
comment by Lawwellnuts (U2992)
posted 2 hours, 10 minutes ago
comment by HB Fash (U21935)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Lawwellnuts (U2992)
posted 1 hour, 32 minutes ago
comment by HB Fash (U21935)
posted 1 hour, 1 minute ago
Forget Martin for the moment. These new owners are showing how incompetent they are.

See that "investment" they made in the summer.

A net spend of 3m euros according to TM. Absolutely nothing the old board couldn't have matched.

The majority of it on the dodgiest of deals with Thelwell giving it to his former club for Chermiti, a 10m amateur player.

It might be starting to dawn on fans that the takeover is nothing more than more of the same. The last board were skint and tried, these coonts are loaded, tight and trying to pull the wool over our eyes. Plus every bit as incompetent and more pig headed on the early evidence.

They need to bite the bullet today, get him out and Stewart and Thelwell to follow by the end of the week to recoup any good will.

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Wait. Hang on.

I posted about this the other day that your owners couldn’t give a flying fwck about what 40 odd thousand Scots think of their latest marketing punt (because that’s all it is) when they are likely fast asleep in their kips thousands of miles away.

And it was suggested that this was just some fantasy.

I think it’s starting to dawn on your support as to how minimal this little venture is to them when set against their overall businesses.

They’re not going to throw out a management team they’ve put in place because some whining Jocks from over the pond demand it. They couldn’t care less.
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We'll see in time.

I suggest when they see the ticket sales for the Europa in the next few weeks they will swiftly change their mind.

I think at the moment they believe it's teething issues with a new squad and manager or at least are still clinging onto that hope to save them a couple million.

They can be forgiven for getting it wrong once if they get rid of him soon, the next appointment needs to be spot on and a serious look at Stewart and Thelwell being replaced, those 3 are the issue at the moment.
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Well yes, chances are it carries on like this then like any other business you start to look beyond the workforce and on to the management.

But that's not happening during this season.

As for Europa sales, how many unsold seats do you think there'll be? 5,000/ That's £750k over the 4 games. No way does a multi billion pound organisation change course for that paltry amount.
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Not happening this season

Guarantee Russell Martin isn't Rangers manager next May.
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If the new owners dont care then why did they bother coming for the OF game? Whay did they attend the Training Centre ahead of that match and why did they give their backing to RM after the Brugge game?

Why would they splash out the best part of £100m on buying Rangers when they couldnt really care less about them?

These guys have worked with Patrick Stewart in getting the takeover done and bringing in Thelwell was one of the first major key decisions made. The significant money spent on players in the summer was one of the second.

IMO they are giving Thelwell and Stewart the time they have asked to save their reputations regarding the Martin appointment. All the fans know its too late and deep down Thelwell and Stewart know its too late but they are gambling on Martin turning it around because they have very little choice. They are to blame for appointing him when everyone could see hes a fraud.

Of course the Marathe and Cavagnah dont have the same sense of feeling about Rangers on a game by game, week by week basis of the fans. But assuming their current inaction is due to not giving the slightest of fooks about their £100m investment is a reach.

Stewart and Thelwell would have told Marathe that this season was going to be one of transition and time would be required. No-one would have thought it would have been this bad though.

I think Martin has 3 more games max and theres every chance Stewart and Thelwell will have to go too at that point.

posted on 15/9/25

comment by Lawwellnuts (U2992)
posted 4 hours, 30 minutes ago
comment by HB Fash (U21935)
posted 1 hour, 1 minute ago
Forget Martin for the moment. These new owners are showing how incompetent they are.

See that "investment" they made in the summer.

A net spend of 3m euros according to TM. Absolutely nothing the old board couldn't have matched.

The majority of it on the dodgiest of deals with Thelwell giving it to his former club for Chermiti, a 10m amateur player.

It might be starting to dawn on fans that the takeover is nothing more than more of the same. The last board were skint and tried, these coonts are loaded, tight and trying to pull the wool over our eyes. Plus every bit as incompetent and more pig headed on the early evidence.

They need to bite the bullet today, get him out and Stewart and Thelwell to follow by the end of the week to recoup any good will.

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Wait. Hang on.

I posted about this the other day that your owners couldn’t give a flying fwck about what 40 odd thousand Scots think of their latest marketing punt (because that’s all it is) when they are likely fast asleep in their kips thousands of miles away.

And it was suggested that this was just some fantasy.

I think it’s starting to dawn on your support as to how minimal this little venture is to them when set against their overall businesses.

They’re not going to throw out a management team they’ve put in place because some whining Jocks from over the pond demand it. They couldn’t care less.
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Surely being American they could care less?

posted on 15/9/25

I’m still not convinced they’ve ploughed anywhere near £100 million into getting control of rangers. Irrespective of the previous lot paying 20p per share every time they poured money in, rangers were a basket case financially.

posted on 15/9/25

30M spent to be in a fecking relegation and his solution is to take the players swimming in loch lomond

Martin's the biggest cant to be involved with us since Barton. Sooner he fecks off the better and he can take Stewart and Thelwell with him. Trio of priqs.

posted on 15/9/25

comment by BlueNose 6456 - Back! (U23284)
posted 13 minutes ago
30M spent to be in a fecking relegation and his solution is to take the players swimming in loch lomond

Martin's the biggest cant to be involved with us since Barton. Sooner he fecks off the better and he can take Stewart and Thelwell with him. Trio of priqs.
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Martin is another one who will talk himself into another couple of managerial jobs after us, fail there and then end up Director of football somewhere purely because he can use powerpoint and talk a good game.

comment by Silver (U6112)

posted on 15/9/25

comment by Humble Hamish (U21959)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by BlueNose 6456 - Back! (U23284)
posted 13 minutes ago
30M spent to be in a fecking relegation and his solution is to take the players swimming in loch lomond

Martin's the biggest cant to be involved with us since Barton. Sooner he fecks off the better and he can take Stewart and Thelwell with him. Trio of priqs.
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Martin is another one who will talk himself into another couple of managerial jobs after us, fail there and then end up Director of football somewhere purely because he can use powerpoint and talk a good game.
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Hawl, that was my career right there

posted on 15/9/25

comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Humble Hamish (U21959)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by BlueNose 6456 - Back! (U23284)
posted 13 minutes ago
30M spent to be in a fecking relegation and his solution is to take the players swimming in loch lomond

Martin's the biggest cant to be involved with us since Barton. Sooner he fecks off the better and he can take Stewart and Thelwell with him. Trio of priqs.
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Martin is another one who will talk himself into another couple of managerial jobs after us, fail there and then end up Director of football somewhere purely because he can use powerpoint and talk a good game.
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Hawl, that was my career right there
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posted on 15/9/25

comment by Humble Hamish (U21959)
posted 26 minutes ago
comment by BlueNose 6456 - Back! (U23284)
posted 13 minutes ago
30M spent to be in a fecking relegation and his solution is to take the players swimming in loch lomond

Martin's the biggest cant to be involved with us since Barton. Sooner he fecks off the better and he can take Stewart and Thelwell with him. Trio of priqs.
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Martin is another one who will talk himself into another couple of managerial jobs after us, fail there and then end up Director of football somewhere purely because he can use powerpoint and talk a good game.
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No doubt about it. Although hopefully nobody is stupid enough to hire Veg Lasso after us (priq shouldn’t have been hired in the first place) but he’s definitely the type of cretin that’ll have a PowerPoint of how well he’s done.

posted on 15/9/25

The significant money spent on players in the summer was one of the second.
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Hmmmm

a 3m net spend. Old board could have matched it.

Now that's not to say there are other reasons for not investing (UEFA financial rules probably) but it's not really accurate to say the owners heavily invested imo. They did not.

posted on 15/9/25

As Magnum pointed out earlier, Thelwell says they spent £20 million net.

posted on 15/9/25

Just seeing Archie Stevens has signed for Arsenal after a trial, possibly best academy in England right now yet he wasn’t good enough to even get a chance for us

posted on 15/9/25

comment by HB Fash (U21935)
posted 8 minutes ago
The significant money spent on players in the summer was one of the second.
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Hmmmm

a 3m net spend. Old board could have matched it.

Now that's not to say there are other reasons for not investing (UEFA financial rules probably) but it's not really accurate to say the owners heavily invested imo. They did not.
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According to Thelwell the net spend was ‘best part of £29m’. Now if he’s spinning it then that means anything from £16m upwards.

He will be applying the maximum fees for Miovski and Chermiti to that, loan fees (I would imagine Aaron’s, Meghoma, Djiga and Moore were probably all min £1m each) and possibly even the Cornelius option price.

They spent far more than I thought they would.

I just don’t think they spent it in the right way.

Chermiti needs to turn out to be a superstar because we could have practically guaranteed a level of productivity of 25-30 goals between Sima and Cerny if we had spent the £10m on them.

posted on 15/9/25

Russell Martin = Paul Le Guen

PLG came into Rangers and tried to take them up a level or ten, with new age thinking, fitness, yoga, diet, meditation and all that. It didn't work then and it won't work now.

Martin is fecked, he's ostracised Rangers best player, his tactics are mince, he's had the worst start for about fifty years and he's alienated all of the fans.

He's the best thing that's happened for Celtic since Beale.

posted on 15/9/25

comment by Changing my name from My POV - but not decided... (U10636)
posted 2 minutes ago
As Magnum pointed out earlier, Thelwell says they spent £20 million net.
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Think it was confirmed afterwards that this included all the money for the loans plus agent fees. Understand including agent fees but just making it seem a bigger spend than it is including wage ups for loaned players, especially seeing we have 5 loan players so at least 5m there you’d think

posted on 15/9/25

comment by RenegadeOF (U9457)
posted 2 minutes ago
Just seeing Archie Stevens has signed for Arsenal after a trial, possibly best academy in England right now yet he wasn’t good enough to even get a chance for us
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He did ok for us at B team level but wasn’t a superstar. Very nice kid, more mature than most .

Good luck to him at Arsenal - that’s a cracking mover for him. Surprising to say the least.

Wish him well though.

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