comment by it'sonlyagame (U6426)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Taki Minamino (U20650)
posted 57 minutes ago
wants to shut down anything that doesn't agree with
yeah theres alot of people like that
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Why don't you just shut up?
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comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by EVERYTHING’S POTE! (U17054)
posted 52 minutes ago
The NYT is categorically not left wing, by European standards at least.
The rather wealthy Sulzberger family, which controls the paper, backed Harris - who’d be considered a right of centre candidate economically-speaking in the vast majority of the world - at the last election, not particularly because they wanted to, but because she wasn’t Trump.
The vast majority of the world’s population sits to the left of Trump politically. Not all of those people are left wing. Badenoch’s politics sit to the left of Farage’s. That doesn’t make her left wing.
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How often do you read it? And the Guardian?
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Probably an article a day from each one on average.
The NYT is controlled by a family of hundred-millionaires. They aren’t leftists, 52. Sure, it’s Democrat-leaning, but like the Democrats, it’s a proponent of neoliberal, free market capitalism.
Despite being (arguably) the wealthiest, the US is the only developed country in the world which doesn’t absolutely guarantee all of its citizens the right to healthcare. But the NYT doesn’t support politicians which want to introduce the same.
It isn’t a paper which is championing measures to address income and wealth inequality, introduce statutory maternity leave, introduce mandatory paid holiday for workers, or strengthen the American social security system.
It’s a newspaper which, like the Democratic Party, sits on the liberal side of the very wide US cultural divide, but really offers very little difference to the right economically. It isn’t a proponent of social democracy, let alone democratic socialism.
And this is the reason why so many Americans are so very, very angry, whether they understand that or otherwise. For a long time, the American people have had an illusion of choice between a right of centre Democratic Party built to serve business and right of centre Republican Party built to serve the extremely wealthy.
Which Labour sadly are doing a great job of replicating. Will be interesting to see how Starmer does in PMQ tomorrow over the Mandelson issue which he has now publicly stated he had no idea about even though it was all public knowledge and everyone knows Mandelson is dodgy. Each week you think Starmer can’t get any more pathetic and he outdoes himself.
When New York's Democrats finally decide to run a social democratic candidate in Zohran Mamdani, here's what the New York Times does...
"Even though the Times no longer makes endorsements for mayor, they published an editorial urging voters to avoid ranking Mamdani at all on their ballots because he was so unqualified. (New York City uses ranked-choice voting, which allows voters to list several candidates in order of preference.)
Remarkably, the Times stopped short of giving the same “don’t rank him” advice about disgraced governor Andrew Cuomo, who resigned his office in 2021 and then ran for mayor against Mamdani in the primary."
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/jul/07/is-the-new-york-times-trying-to-wreck-zohran-mamdanis-mayoral-bid
comment by EVERYTHING’S POTE! (U17054)
posted 5 minutes ago
When New York's Democrats finally decide to run a social democratic candidate in Zohran Mamdani, here's what the New York Times does...
"Even though the Times no longer makes endorsements for mayor, they published an editorial urging voters to avoid ranking Mamdani at all on their ballots because he was so unqualified. (New York City uses ranked-choice voting, which allows voters to list several candidates in order of preference.)
Remarkably, the Times stopped short of giving the same “don’t rank him” advice about disgraced governor Andrew Cuomo, who resigned his office in 2021 and then ran for mayor against Mamdani in the primary."
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/jul/07/is-the-new-york-times-trying-to-wreck-zohran-mamdanis-mayoral-bid
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Thanks for that, Rosso.
I was the someone who tried to tell 52 that rag wasn't leftist. You've explained it infinitely better than I could.
The Democratic economic policy would make Reform voters think twice.
Rosso and others have already covered this question very well. The NYT is very much a right of centre paper on economic issues. Meanwhile, on social issues, its centre of gravity may be more on the liberal side, its opinion section publishes a balance of liberal and conservative voices. It takes its status as newspaper of record very seriously (rather pompously, in my view), which results in a lot of scrupulously politically neutral reporting of the "Dems say Trump is lying; Trump says he's not" variety, as opposed to actually reporting what the truth is. The fact that its editorial line is at heart more sympathetic to liberal than conservative politics also leads it to overcompensate by being harder on the Dems than on the Republicans in framing stories. (There used to be an amusing Twitter account called NYT pitchbot which satirised this tendency.) We can argue the merits of being a non-partisan media platform in an age where one party has raced off over the post-truth horizon. But what that adds up to really isn't a left-wing newspaper, unless one accepts MAGA's view of everything non-MAGA as far Left.
comment by son of quebec (U8127)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by EVERYTHING’S POTE! (U17054)
posted 5 minutes ago
When New York's Democrats finally decide to run a social democratic candidate in Zohran Mamdani, here's what the New York Times does...
"Even though the Times no longer makes endorsements for mayor, they published an editorial urging voters to avoid ranking Mamdani at all on their ballots because he was so unqualified. (New York City uses ranked-choice voting, which allows voters to list several candidates in order of preference.)
Remarkably, the Times stopped short of giving the same “don’t rank him” advice about disgraced governor Andrew Cuomo, who resigned his office in 2021 and then ran for mayor against Mamdani in the primary."
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/jul/07/is-the-new-york-times-trying-to-wreck-zohran-mamdanis-mayoral-bid
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Thanks for that, Rosso.
I was the someone who tried to tell 52 that rag wasn't leftist. You've explained it infinitely better than I could.
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The US is the apex example of illusion of choice:
- Only two political parties to choose from
- A political debate which focuses overwhelmingly on socio-centric culture war issues, allowing each of the two parties to position itself on opposite sides of what looks like a wide divide
- The public sees the options as diametrically opposed: committed liberals vs staunch conservatives
- Meanwhile, both parties quietly continue with incredibly similar economic agendas: promote ‘free market’ (in reality, often crony) capitalism, protect Wall Street, subsidise the likes of Tesla without asking for loan repayments, hand publicly-funded IP directly to Silicon Valley/biotech/big pharma, carefully control workers’ rights, ignore rural communities, ignore a desperately needed regeneration of post-industrial wastelands, keep the multinationals and billionaires happy with tax cuts, incentives and loopholes, and generally attempt to sustain US economic hegemony at any cost to the American working class.
NYT is v balants
Thats y lefties think it is wrighty n righties think it is lephed-t
comment by 4zA (U22472)
posted 14 minutes ago
NYT is v balants
Thats y lefties think it is wrighty n righties think it is lephed-t
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Bet you think Democrats are lephteas.
comment by Ji Sung Park's Cousin (U2958)
posted 1 hour, 42 minutes ago
The obvious hypocrisy was the silence and jokes that came from republican politicians after the democrat congresswoman, husband and dog were killed and other shot. That was actually sickening from officials... not just some redditors.
USA is gone
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Sing hallelujah 🙌
It depends on your view of left and right.
In my opinion the Guardian is true left, not Communist left, but left.
The NYT is leftish, you laughed when I said that, but I think you are wrong.
comment by EVERYTHING’S POTE! (U17054)
posted 45 minutes ago
comment by son of quebec (U8127)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by EVERYTHING’S POTE! (U17054)
posted 5 minutes ago
When New York's Democrats finally decide to run a social democratic candidate in Zohran Mamdani, here's what the New York Times does...
"Even though the Times no longer makes endorsements for mayor, they published an editorial urging voters to avoid ranking Mamdani at all on their ballots because he was so unqualified. (New York City uses ranked-choice voting, which allows voters to list several candidates in order of preference.)
Remarkably, the Times stopped short of giving the same “don’t rank him” advice about disgraced governor Andrew Cuomo, who resigned his office in 2021 and then ran for mayor against Mamdani in the primary."
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/jul/07/is-the-new-york-times-trying-to-wreck-zohran-mamdanis-mayoral-bid
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Thanks for that, Rosso.
I was the someone who tried to tell 52 that rag wasn't leftist. You've explained it infinitely better than I could.
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The US is the apex example of illusion of choice:
- Only two political parties to choose from
- A political debate which focuses overwhelmingly on socio-centric culture war issues, allowing each of the two parties to position itself on opposite sides of what looks like a wide divide
- The public sees the options as diametrically opposed: committed liberals vs staunch conservatives
- Meanwhile, both parties quietly continue with incredibly similar economic agendas: promote ‘free market’ (in reality, often crony) capitalism, protect Wall Street, subsidise the likes of Tesla without asking for loan repayments, hand publicly-funded IP directly to Silicon Valley/biotech/big pharma, carefully control workers’ rights, ignore rural communities, ignore a desperately needed regeneration of post-industrial wastelands, keep the multinationals and billionaires happy with tax cuts, incentives and loopholes, and generally attempt to sustain US economic hegemony at any cost to the American working class.
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https://www.nytimes.com/2025/09/14/opinion/hochul-endorsement-mamdani.html?smid=nytcore-android-share
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 11 minutes ago
It depends on your view of left and right.
In my opinion the Guardian is true left, not Communist left, but left.
The NYT is leftish, you laughed when I said that, but I think you are wrong.
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What makes you think that, though?
I paper that acts as a mouthpiece for corporate America isn’t left wing by the standards of actual left wing politics, just because Americans say it is.
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 13 minutes ago
It depends on your view of left and right.
In my opinion the Guardian is true left, not Communist left, but left.
The NYT is leftish, you laughed when I said that, but I think you are wrong.
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You can think that all you want.
They are attacking Mamdami but not the $ex pest ex- governor.
Why? And read a bit about Mamdami. He's actually left of centre.
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by EVERYTHING’S POTE! (U17054)
posted 45 minutes ago
comment by son of quebec (U8127)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by EVERYTHING’S POTE! (U17054)
posted 5 minutes ago
When New York's Democrats finally decide to run a social democratic candidate in Zohran Mamdani, here's what the New York Times does...
"Even though the Times no longer makes endorsements for mayor, they published an editorial urging voters to avoid ranking Mamdani at all on their ballots because he was so unqualified. (New York City uses ranked-choice voting, which allows voters to list several candidates in order of preference.)
Remarkably, the Times stopped short of giving the same “don’t rank him” advice about disgraced governor Andrew Cuomo, who resigned his office in 2021 and then ran for mayor against Mamdani in the primary."
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/jul/07/is-the-new-york-times-trying-to-wreck-zohran-mamdanis-mayoral-bid
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Thanks for that, Rosso.
I was the someone who tried to tell 52 that rag wasn't leftist. You've explained it infinitely better than I could.
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The US is the apex example of illusion of choice:
- Only two political parties to choose from
- A political debate which focuses overwhelmingly on socio-centric culture war issues, allowing each of the two parties to position itself on opposite sides of what looks like a wide divide
- The public sees the options as diametrically opposed: committed liberals vs staunch conservatives
- Meanwhile, both parties quietly continue with incredibly similar economic agendas: promote ‘free market’ (in reality, often crony) capitalism, protect Wall Street, subsidise the likes of Tesla without asking for loan repayments, hand publicly-funded IP directly to Silicon Valley/biotech/big pharma, carefully control workers’ rights, ignore rural communities, ignore a desperately needed regeneration of post-industrial wastelands, keep the multinationals and billionaires happy with tax cuts, incentives and loopholes, and generally attempt to sustain US economic hegemony at any cost to the American working class.
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https://www.nytimes.com/2025/09/14/opinion/hochul-endorsement-mamdani.html?smid=nytcore-android-share
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That’s a guest opinion piece; not an editorial endorsement. The Guardian runs guest opinion pieces by right wing commentators. That doesn’t make it a right of centre publication.
Again, the editorial board of the NYT has refused to endorse Mamdani, the first social democratic candidate the Democrats have nominated for the NY mayoralty in decades. They will not endorse a left of centre candidate, because he actually wants to tax the very people who control the newspaper.
As to, “It depends on your view of left and right,” well, yes, of course it does.
But by European standards, the Democratic Party politics which the NYT leans towards *is not an economically left of centre party*. It demonstrably isn’t. Economically, they generally sit somewhere around Cameron’s Tories. They don’t propound a federal minimum wage it’s possible to survive on. They don’t advocate for universal healthcare, or publicly-owned utilities, or free college tuition. They don’t, when in power, introduce statutory maternity leave, or paid holidays, or serious protections for workers, or affordable prescription charges.
Multiple posters clearly explain why the NYT isn't a left leaning paper and m52 replies 'I think you are wrong'.
lol
comment by EVERYTHING’S POTE! (U17054)
posted 3 minutes ago
They don’t propound a federal minimum wage it’s possible to survive on. They don’t advocate for universal healthcare, or publicly-owned utilities, or free college tuition. They don’t, when in power, introduce statutory maternity leave, or paid holidays, or serious protections for workers, or affordable prescription charges.
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Ok, but apart from that, what have the Romans ever done for us?
A large part of the reason why the West is in this complete social and economic mire is because we’ve allowed the corporate media to benchmark, as Trump frequently does, against the right.
They will paint anything to the left of the centre right (or more recently, hard right) as left wing, and we let them get away with it.
The left of the Conservative Party: left wing. Lib Dems: left wing. Starmer’s New New Labour: loony left wing.
None of those things are even left of centre economically, never mind left wing.
The NYT is what most of us would call a Left wing paper, in America "Left wing" is still at best centre Right, not as bad as the rest of their media or news stations but not what would be called Left over here imo
"The NYT is what most of us would call a Left wing paper"
Is "NOT what
As someone above mentioned... Only the social issues could be considered left wing/progressive or right/conservative... All the main parties, both over there and here, are really to serve the capitalist machine... the social issues are just the distraction.
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You asked whether The New York Times is right or left leaning politically.
Based on widely recognised media bias assessments:
The New York Times is generally considered to lean left, particularly in its editorial and opinion sections1.
Its news reporting is often viewed as more balanced, though some critics argue that subtle bias can still appear in story selection and framing
Independent platforms like AllSides rate The New York Times as left-leaning, based on input from both experts and the public across the political spectrum
A comparative analysis also found that The New York Times leans left, while outlets like The New York Post lean right.
comment by The Assassin😎 AKA Pranks☺️ (U22336)
posted 4 minutes ago
Copilot
You asked whether The New York Times is right or left leaning politically.
Based on widely recognised media bias assessments:
The New York Times is generally considered to lean left, particularly in its editorial and opinion sections1.
Its news reporting is often viewed as more balanced, though some critics argue that subtle bias can still appear in story selection and framing
Independent platforms like AllSides rate The New York Times as left-leaning, based on input from both experts and the public across the political spectrum
A comparative analysis also found that The New York Times leans left, while outlets like The New York Post lean right.
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posted 1 month ago
comment by it'sonlyagame (U6426)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Taki Minamino (U20650)
posted 57 minutes ago
wants to shut down anything that doesn't agree with
yeah theres alot of people like that
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Why don't you just shut up?
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posted 1 month ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by EVERYTHING’S POTE! (U17054)
posted 52 minutes ago
The NYT is categorically not left wing, by European standards at least.
The rather wealthy Sulzberger family, which controls the paper, backed Harris - who’d be considered a right of centre candidate economically-speaking in the vast majority of the world - at the last election, not particularly because they wanted to, but because she wasn’t Trump.
The vast majority of the world’s population sits to the left of Trump politically. Not all of those people are left wing. Badenoch’s politics sit to the left of Farage’s. That doesn’t make her left wing.
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How often do you read it? And the Guardian?
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Probably an article a day from each one on average.
The NYT is controlled by a family of hundred-millionaires. They aren’t leftists, 52. Sure, it’s Democrat-leaning, but like the Democrats, it’s a proponent of neoliberal, free market capitalism.
Despite being (arguably) the wealthiest, the US is the only developed country in the world which doesn’t absolutely guarantee all of its citizens the right to healthcare. But the NYT doesn’t support politicians which want to introduce the same.
It isn’t a paper which is championing measures to address income and wealth inequality, introduce statutory maternity leave, introduce mandatory paid holiday for workers, or strengthen the American social security system.
It’s a newspaper which, like the Democratic Party, sits on the liberal side of the very wide US cultural divide, but really offers very little difference to the right economically. It isn’t a proponent of social democracy, let alone democratic socialism.
And this is the reason why so many Americans are so very, very angry, whether they understand that or otherwise. For a long time, the American people have had an illusion of choice between a right of centre Democratic Party built to serve business and right of centre Republican Party built to serve the extremely wealthy.
posted 1 month ago
Which Labour sadly are doing a great job of replicating. Will be interesting to see how Starmer does in PMQ tomorrow over the Mandelson issue which he has now publicly stated he had no idea about even though it was all public knowledge and everyone knows Mandelson is dodgy. Each week you think Starmer can’t get any more pathetic and he outdoes himself.
posted 1 month ago
When New York's Democrats finally decide to run a social democratic candidate in Zohran Mamdani, here's what the New York Times does...
"Even though the Times no longer makes endorsements for mayor, they published an editorial urging voters to avoid ranking Mamdani at all on their ballots because he was so unqualified. (New York City uses ranked-choice voting, which allows voters to list several candidates in order of preference.)
Remarkably, the Times stopped short of giving the same “don’t rank him” advice about disgraced governor Andrew Cuomo, who resigned his office in 2021 and then ran for mayor against Mamdani in the primary."
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/jul/07/is-the-new-york-times-trying-to-wreck-zohran-mamdanis-mayoral-bid
posted 1 month ago
comment by EVERYTHING’S POTE! (U17054)
posted 5 minutes ago
When New York's Democrats finally decide to run a social democratic candidate in Zohran Mamdani, here's what the New York Times does...
"Even though the Times no longer makes endorsements for mayor, they published an editorial urging voters to avoid ranking Mamdani at all on their ballots because he was so unqualified. (New York City uses ranked-choice voting, which allows voters to list several candidates in order of preference.)
Remarkably, the Times stopped short of giving the same “don’t rank him” advice about disgraced governor Andrew Cuomo, who resigned his office in 2021 and then ran for mayor against Mamdani in the primary."
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/jul/07/is-the-new-york-times-trying-to-wreck-zohran-mamdanis-mayoral-bid
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Thanks for that, Rosso.
I was the someone who tried to tell 52 that rag wasn't leftist. You've explained it infinitely better than I could.
posted 1 month ago
The Democratic economic policy would make Reform voters think twice.
posted 1 month ago
Rosso and others have already covered this question very well. The NYT is very much a right of centre paper on economic issues. Meanwhile, on social issues, its centre of gravity may be more on the liberal side, its opinion section publishes a balance of liberal and conservative voices. It takes its status as newspaper of record very seriously (rather pompously, in my view), which results in a lot of scrupulously politically neutral reporting of the "Dems say Trump is lying; Trump says he's not" variety, as opposed to actually reporting what the truth is. The fact that its editorial line is at heart more sympathetic to liberal than conservative politics also leads it to overcompensate by being harder on the Dems than on the Republicans in framing stories. (There used to be an amusing Twitter account called NYT pitchbot which satirised this tendency.) We can argue the merits of being a non-partisan media platform in an age where one party has raced off over the post-truth horizon. But what that adds up to really isn't a left-wing newspaper, unless one accepts MAGA's view of everything non-MAGA as far Left.
posted 1 month ago
comment by son of quebec (U8127)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by EVERYTHING’S POTE! (U17054)
posted 5 minutes ago
When New York's Democrats finally decide to run a social democratic candidate in Zohran Mamdani, here's what the New York Times does...
"Even though the Times no longer makes endorsements for mayor, they published an editorial urging voters to avoid ranking Mamdani at all on their ballots because he was so unqualified. (New York City uses ranked-choice voting, which allows voters to list several candidates in order of preference.)
Remarkably, the Times stopped short of giving the same “don’t rank him” advice about disgraced governor Andrew Cuomo, who resigned his office in 2021 and then ran for mayor against Mamdani in the primary."
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/jul/07/is-the-new-york-times-trying-to-wreck-zohran-mamdanis-mayoral-bid
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Thanks for that, Rosso.
I was the someone who tried to tell 52 that rag wasn't leftist. You've explained it infinitely better than I could.
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The US is the apex example of illusion of choice:
- Only two political parties to choose from
- A political debate which focuses overwhelmingly on socio-centric culture war issues, allowing each of the two parties to position itself on opposite sides of what looks like a wide divide
- The public sees the options as diametrically opposed: committed liberals vs staunch conservatives
- Meanwhile, both parties quietly continue with incredibly similar economic agendas: promote ‘free market’ (in reality, often crony) capitalism, protect Wall Street, subsidise the likes of Tesla without asking for loan repayments, hand publicly-funded IP directly to Silicon Valley/biotech/big pharma, carefully control workers’ rights, ignore rural communities, ignore a desperately needed regeneration of post-industrial wastelands, keep the multinationals and billionaires happy with tax cuts, incentives and loopholes, and generally attempt to sustain US economic hegemony at any cost to the American working class.
posted 1 month ago
NYT is v balants
Thats y lefties think it is wrighty n righties think it is lephed-t
posted 1 month ago
lephed-t
posted 1 month ago
comment by 4zA (U22472)
posted 14 minutes ago
NYT is v balants
Thats y lefties think it is wrighty n righties think it is lephed-t
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Bet you think Democrats are lephteas.
posted 1 month ago
comment by Ji Sung Park's Cousin (U2958)
posted 1 hour, 42 minutes ago
The obvious hypocrisy was the silence and jokes that came from republican politicians after the democrat congresswoman, husband and dog were killed and other shot. That was actually sickening from officials... not just some redditors.
USA is gone
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Sing hallelujah 🙌
posted 1 month ago
It depends on your view of left and right.
In my opinion the Guardian is true left, not Communist left, but left.
The NYT is leftish, you laughed when I said that, but I think you are wrong.
posted 1 month ago
comment by EVERYTHING’S POTE! (U17054)
posted 45 minutes ago
comment by son of quebec (U8127)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by EVERYTHING’S POTE! (U17054)
posted 5 minutes ago
When New York's Democrats finally decide to run a social democratic candidate in Zohran Mamdani, here's what the New York Times does...
"Even though the Times no longer makes endorsements for mayor, they published an editorial urging voters to avoid ranking Mamdani at all on their ballots because he was so unqualified. (New York City uses ranked-choice voting, which allows voters to list several candidates in order of preference.)
Remarkably, the Times stopped short of giving the same “don’t rank him” advice about disgraced governor Andrew Cuomo, who resigned his office in 2021 and then ran for mayor against Mamdani in the primary."
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/jul/07/is-the-new-york-times-trying-to-wreck-zohran-mamdanis-mayoral-bid
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Thanks for that, Rosso.
I was the someone who tried to tell 52 that rag wasn't leftist. You've explained it infinitely better than I could.
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The US is the apex example of illusion of choice:
- Only two political parties to choose from
- A political debate which focuses overwhelmingly on socio-centric culture war issues, allowing each of the two parties to position itself on opposite sides of what looks like a wide divide
- The public sees the options as diametrically opposed: committed liberals vs staunch conservatives
- Meanwhile, both parties quietly continue with incredibly similar economic agendas: promote ‘free market’ (in reality, often crony) capitalism, protect Wall Street, subsidise the likes of Tesla without asking for loan repayments, hand publicly-funded IP directly to Silicon Valley/biotech/big pharma, carefully control workers’ rights, ignore rural communities, ignore a desperately needed regeneration of post-industrial wastelands, keep the multinationals and billionaires happy with tax cuts, incentives and loopholes, and generally attempt to sustain US economic hegemony at any cost to the American working class.
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https://www.nytimes.com/2025/09/14/opinion/hochul-endorsement-mamdani.html?smid=nytcore-android-share
posted 1 month ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 11 minutes ago
It depends on your view of left and right.
In my opinion the Guardian is true left, not Communist left, but left.
The NYT is leftish, you laughed when I said that, but I think you are wrong.
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What makes you think that, though?
I paper that acts as a mouthpiece for corporate America isn’t left wing by the standards of actual left wing politics, just because Americans say it is.
posted 1 month ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 13 minutes ago
It depends on your view of left and right.
In my opinion the Guardian is true left, not Communist left, but left.
The NYT is leftish, you laughed when I said that, but I think you are wrong.
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You can think that all you want.
They are attacking Mamdami but not the $ex pest ex- governor.
Why? And read a bit about Mamdami. He's actually left of centre.
posted 1 month ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by EVERYTHING’S POTE! (U17054)
posted 45 minutes ago
comment by son of quebec (U8127)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by EVERYTHING’S POTE! (U17054)
posted 5 minutes ago
When New York's Democrats finally decide to run a social democratic candidate in Zohran Mamdani, here's what the New York Times does...
"Even though the Times no longer makes endorsements for mayor, they published an editorial urging voters to avoid ranking Mamdani at all on their ballots because he was so unqualified. (New York City uses ranked-choice voting, which allows voters to list several candidates in order of preference.)
Remarkably, the Times stopped short of giving the same “don’t rank him” advice about disgraced governor Andrew Cuomo, who resigned his office in 2021 and then ran for mayor against Mamdani in the primary."
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/jul/07/is-the-new-york-times-trying-to-wreck-zohran-mamdanis-mayoral-bid
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Thanks for that, Rosso.
I was the someone who tried to tell 52 that rag wasn't leftist. You've explained it infinitely better than I could.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The US is the apex example of illusion of choice:
- Only two political parties to choose from
- A political debate which focuses overwhelmingly on socio-centric culture war issues, allowing each of the two parties to position itself on opposite sides of what looks like a wide divide
- The public sees the options as diametrically opposed: committed liberals vs staunch conservatives
- Meanwhile, both parties quietly continue with incredibly similar economic agendas: promote ‘free market’ (in reality, often crony) capitalism, protect Wall Street, subsidise the likes of Tesla without asking for loan repayments, hand publicly-funded IP directly to Silicon Valley/biotech/big pharma, carefully control workers’ rights, ignore rural communities, ignore a desperately needed regeneration of post-industrial wastelands, keep the multinationals and billionaires happy with tax cuts, incentives and loopholes, and generally attempt to sustain US economic hegemony at any cost to the American working class.
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https://www.nytimes.com/2025/09/14/opinion/hochul-endorsement-mamdani.html?smid=nytcore-android-share
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That’s a guest opinion piece; not an editorial endorsement. The Guardian runs guest opinion pieces by right wing commentators. That doesn’t make it a right of centre publication.
Again, the editorial board of the NYT has refused to endorse Mamdani, the first social democratic candidate the Democrats have nominated for the NY mayoralty in decades. They will not endorse a left of centre candidate, because he actually wants to tax the very people who control the newspaper.
As to, “It depends on your view of left and right,” well, yes, of course it does.
But by European standards, the Democratic Party politics which the NYT leans towards *is not an economically left of centre party*. It demonstrably isn’t. Economically, they generally sit somewhere around Cameron’s Tories. They don’t propound a federal minimum wage it’s possible to survive on. They don’t advocate for universal healthcare, or publicly-owned utilities, or free college tuition. They don’t, when in power, introduce statutory maternity leave, or paid holidays, or serious protections for workers, or affordable prescription charges.
posted 1 month ago
Multiple posters clearly explain why the NYT isn't a left leaning paper and m52 replies 'I think you are wrong'.
lol
posted 1 month ago
comment by EVERYTHING’S POTE! (U17054)
posted 3 minutes ago
They don’t propound a federal minimum wage it’s possible to survive on. They don’t advocate for universal healthcare, or publicly-owned utilities, or free college tuition. They don’t, when in power, introduce statutory maternity leave, or paid holidays, or serious protections for workers, or affordable prescription charges.
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Ok, but apart from that, what have the Romans ever done for us?
posted 1 month ago
A large part of the reason why the West is in this complete social and economic mire is because we’ve allowed the corporate media to benchmark, as Trump frequently does, against the right.
They will paint anything to the left of the centre right (or more recently, hard right) as left wing, and we let them get away with it.
The left of the Conservative Party: left wing. Lib Dems: left wing. Starmer’s New New Labour: loony left wing.
None of those things are even left of centre economically, never mind left wing.
posted 1 month ago
The NYT is what most of us would call a Left wing paper, in America "Left wing" is still at best centre Right, not as bad as the rest of their media or news stations but not what would be called Left over here imo
posted 1 month ago
"The NYT is what most of us would call a Left wing paper"
Is "NOT what
posted 1 month ago
As someone above mentioned... Only the social issues could be considered left wing/progressive or right/conservative... All the main parties, both over there and here, are really to serve the capitalist machine... the social issues are just the distraction.
posted 1 month ago
Copilot
You asked whether The New York Times is right or left leaning politically.
Based on widely recognised media bias assessments:
The New York Times is generally considered to lean left, particularly in its editorial and opinion sections1.
Its news reporting is often viewed as more balanced, though some critics argue that subtle bias can still appear in story selection and framing
Independent platforms like AllSides rate The New York Times as left-leaning, based on input from both experts and the public across the political spectrum
A comparative analysis also found that The New York Times leans left, while outlets like The New York Post lean right.
posted 1 month ago
comment by The Assassin😎 AKA Pranks☺️ (U22336)
posted 4 minutes ago
Copilot
You asked whether The New York Times is right or left leaning politically.
Based on widely recognised media bias assessments:
The New York Times is generally considered to lean left, particularly in its editorial and opinion sections1.
Its news reporting is often viewed as more balanced, though some critics argue that subtle bias can still appear in story selection and framing
Independent platforms like AllSides rate The New York Times as left-leaning, based on input from both experts and the public across the political spectrum
A comparative analysis also found that The New York Times leans left, while outlets like The New York Post lean right.
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Have you ever read it?
If so what's YOUR opinion?
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