Absolutely Moja, all it did was deflect a well deserved and hard fought victory and let the moronic tools like Mcdick, that Canadian plank and various gob-shiites spew their utter tripe.
You RAMS Always And Forever.
YOU ONLY BEAT TEN MEN!
Worth a try.
Oh dear.
you cannot be serious about 10 men, can you?
noooooooooooooooo I am sure you are taking the pizz out of youself.
Please tell me I am right.
Yes I know you are, good sense of humour.
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Well said, Kev - I'll echo what Rev said though - although both clubs have their fair share of dipsticks, there are some sensible ones, including Rev
(even if he has got me on 'ignore' - why? My second name isn't McMoans )
Well said Moj. At the end of the day the game wasn't a classic, there were 2 poor teams on show. Derby wanted it more though and deserved the win. I fear for Forist, Cotterill is now apparantly blaming the pressure of the Derby fans for giving the free kick that led to the goal
let's savour the moment... In the pub as I write!
Fantastic atmosphere at Pride Park last night and in particular the noise when the players ran out was incredible. Made me very proud to be a Ram.
Call me mam me mam.....
Yes, let's get back to discussing the complete lack of football that Clough has HIS squad playing, pausing only to reflect on the laughable comments Glick included in his statement about "entertaining football" and "enjoying watching".
A proper side would have whupped that poor Forest team into submission way before the 94th minute and crushed any resistance before it got to the point where they were kicking lumps out of us. The fact that a player the likes of Jake Buxton wins MOTM at the weekend and then apparently earns 'legendary' status on Tuesday speaks volumes of how far we've fallen.
Clough out.
666, so soon, and I enjoyed your happy typing last night, now you have your frown face back on.
Love to back ya up on this but still basking in the joy of victory.
A win's a win, Igor, and you can only beat what's put in front of you AND it was the first double for forty years, so there's much to celebrate!
The context shouldn't be forgotten though; two very poor sides contesting a very poor match in a division neither really should be in, all things being equal.
When the likes of Reading are getting massive investment and proper clubs like ours are gettig left by the wayside, falling prey to the likes of GSE looking to make a buck, then there's a bit of gloss taken off.
666 - rather than complain about other clubs having more investment, why dont you go to Russia and find us a corrupt, megolamaniac oligarch (or 3) all of our own who have, most likely (but unproveably) knocked off dozens of people and bribed countless others in their pursuit of untold wealth, acheived by seizing control of some far flung oil field/diamond mine/ opium field.
We could call them the "трех амигос"
ooops: a lot of comments to get through here!
rev: having re-read it I acknowledge it looks like a 'blanket' categorisation. My bad. I meant the ones who seek to use it against us. As clear as it must be that 99% of Rams fans abhor this kind of thing, it's clear that 99% of Forest fans understood that.There's nothing moronic about being offended by it, as most right-minded people were.
Rev/Eddie: re-edited. I blame the ouzo!
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Rev: it's true that our rivalries won't always served up a classic, but as you say, desire should never be in question. We're still a long way off the finished article, but you lot were very nearly exactly that, and I think a lot of Rams fans can't believe their 'luck' if you can call it that, in that the club we have been pitted against since time immemorial spectacularly snatched defeat from the jaws of victory over the first half of this season. I'm guessing a good majority of you are still in shock. But recent weeks, from my cursory views, looked toshow a glimmer of improvement. Can Cotterill complete the damage limitation do you think?
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666. Please answer this question.
How will GSE make a buck without getting promotion? Think about it. They - and it's their money - think wreckless investment is not the way to go. Instead they think hiring a long-term manager and some years of team building is the way to do it. I happen to agree with them and our team has improved enormously already. I hope they do eventually make their buck as long as they don't leave us a state of financial ruin which I don't think they will.
In the meantime why don't you go and support a club (Leicester maybe?) where money IS being thrown at the problem if that is the way you prefer it.
You have every right to your opinions and to moan but just engage brain sometimes
Ramdini:
I’ll humour you, just this once.
GSE already ARE making a buck; they have no investment, they are merely the machine through which the investment of others should flow. They’re a management company, nothing more and nothing less. They take a considerable ‘fee’ in addition to their ‘expenses’ for basically sitting there and letting the club go to seed under their awful ‘stewardship’.
Hiring a long-term manager? Are you kidding me? The only reason he’s ‘long-term’ is because he won’t walk due to never, ever getting a chance like this for him and his god-awful ‘coaching staff’ again and the fact that GSE are happy to let suckers like you continue to believe in a surname fantasy. The longer you happy-clappers perpetuate this cycle of abuse, the longer it will continue; you’re the Emo kid of football supporters, damaging the lifeblood of the club because “nobody understands”. Time and time again you and your equally-afflicted know-noughts roll out the ‘legacy’ argument and cite ‘stability’ as the raison d’être, but the fact is Clough is woefully out of his depth.
The team has improved enormously? You’re kidding me, right?!! When a parks footballer like Jake Buxton gets MOTM on Saturday and becomes, according to the likes of you, a ‘legend’ on Tuesday, you’re trying to tell me the team has improved?!!
You are a patsy, afraid to question anyone or anything that has the club logo attached to it. It’s little wonder the Americans don’t need to worry about hiring a proper manager when there’s enough idiots happy to swallow the garbage they come out with about Clough being ‘our man’ and be satisfied.
Seeing as you clearly have no understanding of what it is to be a TRUE supporter of a club (as you seem to believe swapping allegiances is a viable option) then maybe YOU should change to a club more suited to YOUR lofty ambitions: perhaps a Chesapeake Under 10’s second eleven?
Can you feel the love in the room?
We are currently 13th, 8 points away from the play-off places and 18 away from relegation. If this is "woefully out of his depth", what does it say about the managers of the teams below Derby? Leicester and their billions are 2 points better off than Derby at the moment. Sure, we all want better and we always will. I think that this season there has been overall improvement, particularly with the emergence of the younger players. This is a vital part of any club which has been cruelly neglected by previous managers who have had better success with the first team but which is a vital part of the manager's job. As Clough has said, he wants to make the right decisions for the benefit of the club whether he is here or not, and this makes a good change from the self-serving managers who are the norm.
But it's easier for you to pass off anyone's opinion other than your own as being simply because they can't see straight through their misty-eyed nostalgia. More mature people than yourself might acknowledge Clough's tactical inflexibility and stubbornness, debate the merits of various players and their cost to the club and give credit where it is due. You 666, can't bring yourself to give Clough credit for anything, which sort of makes you the patsy, scared to question yourself and your "stance" because you can't bear the consequences of being "wrong", not that right and wrong is the way to think of it anyway. This rigid adherence to one extreme end of a continuous spectrum of opinion and a refusal to challenge any aspect of it is a sign of weakness, not strength. And lay off Jake.
I've acknowledged where Clough has made improvements elsewhere: this was a direct question to me, about GSE, which I've answered.
"And lay off Jake"
What, are you the mafia now or something? I think perhaps your God-complex has you over stretching your authority somewhat, so allow me to clarify;
Shush.
"The longer you happy-clappers perpetuate this cycle of abuse, the longer it will continue; you’re the Emo kid of football supporters, damaging the lifeblood of the club because “nobody understands”. Time and time again you and your equally-afflicted know-noughts roll out the ‘legacy’ argument and cite ‘stability’ as the raison d’être, but the fact is Clough is woefully out of his depth."
Do you feel better now?
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posted on 14/3/12
Well said Moj
posted on 14/3/12
Absolutely Moja, all it did was deflect a well deserved and hard fought victory and let the moronic tools like Mcdick, that Canadian plank and various gob-shiites spew their utter tripe.
You RAMS Always And Forever.
posted on 14/3/12
YOU ONLY BEAT TEN MEN!
Worth a try.
posted on 14/3/12
Oh dear.
you cannot be serious about 10 men, can you?
noooooooooooooooo I am sure you are taking the pizz out of youself.
Please tell me I am right.
posted on 14/3/12
Yes I know you are, good sense of humour.
posted on 14/3/12
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posted on 14/3/12
Well said, Kev - I'll echo what Rev said though - although both clubs have their fair share of dipsticks, there are some sensible ones, including Rev
(even if he has got me on 'ignore' - why? My second name isn't McMoans )
posted on 14/3/12
Well said Moj. At the end of the day the game wasn't a classic, there were 2 poor teams on show. Derby wanted it more though and deserved the win. I fear for Forist, Cotterill is now apparantly blaming the pressure of the Derby fans for giving the free kick that led to the goal
let's savour the moment... In the pub as I write!
posted on 14/3/12
Fantastic atmosphere at Pride Park last night and in particular the noise when the players ran out was incredible. Made me very proud to be a Ram.
Call me mam me mam.....
posted on 14/3/12
Yes, let's get back to discussing the complete lack of football that Clough has HIS squad playing, pausing only to reflect on the laughable comments Glick included in his statement about "entertaining football" and "enjoying watching".
A proper side would have whupped that poor Forest team into submission way before the 94th minute and crushed any resistance before it got to the point where they were kicking lumps out of us. The fact that a player the likes of Jake Buxton wins MOTM at the weekend and then apparently earns 'legendary' status on Tuesday speaks volumes of how far we've fallen.
Clough out.
posted on 14/3/12
666, so soon, and I enjoyed your happy typing last night, now you have your frown face back on.
Love to back ya up on this but still basking in the joy of victory.
posted on 14/3/12
A win's a win, Igor, and you can only beat what's put in front of you AND it was the first double for forty years, so there's much to celebrate!
The context shouldn't be forgotten though; two very poor sides contesting a very poor match in a division neither really should be in, all things being equal.
When the likes of Reading are getting massive investment and proper clubs like ours are gettig left by the wayside, falling prey to the likes of GSE looking to make a buck, then there's a bit of gloss taken off.
posted on 14/3/12
AGREED!
posted on 14/3/12
posted on 14/3/12
666 - rather than complain about other clubs having more investment, why dont you go to Russia and find us a corrupt, megolamaniac oligarch (or 3) all of our own who have, most likely (but unproveably) knocked off dozens of people and bribed countless others in their pursuit of untold wealth, acheived by seizing control of some far flung oil field/diamond mine/ opium field.
We could call them the "трех амигос"
posted on 14/3/12
ooops: a lot of comments to get through here!
rev: having re-read it I acknowledge it looks like a 'blanket' categorisation. My bad. I meant the ones who seek to use it against us. As clear as it must be that 99% of Rams fans abhor this kind of thing, it's clear that 99% of Forest fans understood that.There's nothing moronic about being offended by it, as most right-minded people were.
posted on 14/3/12
Rev/Eddie: re-edited. I blame the ouzo!
posted on 14/3/12
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posted on 14/3/12
Rev: it's true that our rivalries won't always served up a classic, but as you say, desire should never be in question. We're still a long way off the finished article, but you lot were very nearly exactly that, and I think a lot of Rams fans can't believe their 'luck' if you can call it that, in that the club we have been pitted against since time immemorial spectacularly snatched defeat from the jaws of victory over the first half of this season. I'm guessing a good majority of you are still in shock. But recent weeks, from my cursory views, looked toshow a glimmer of improvement. Can Cotterill complete the damage limitation do you think?
posted on 14/3/12
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posted on 15/3/12
666. Please answer this question.
How will GSE make a buck without getting promotion? Think about it. They - and it's their money - think wreckless investment is not the way to go. Instead they think hiring a long-term manager and some years of team building is the way to do it. I happen to agree with them and our team has improved enormously already. I hope they do eventually make their buck as long as they don't leave us a state of financial ruin which I don't think they will.
In the meantime why don't you go and support a club (Leicester maybe?) where money IS being thrown at the problem if that is the way you prefer it.
You have every right to your opinions and to moan but just engage brain sometimes
posted on 15/3/12
Ramdini:
I’ll humour you, just this once.
GSE already ARE making a buck; they have no investment, they are merely the machine through which the investment of others should flow. They’re a management company, nothing more and nothing less. They take a considerable ‘fee’ in addition to their ‘expenses’ for basically sitting there and letting the club go to seed under their awful ‘stewardship’.
Hiring a long-term manager? Are you kidding me? The only reason he’s ‘long-term’ is because he won’t walk due to never, ever getting a chance like this for him and his god-awful ‘coaching staff’ again and the fact that GSE are happy to let suckers like you continue to believe in a surname fantasy. The longer you happy-clappers perpetuate this cycle of abuse, the longer it will continue; you’re the Emo kid of football supporters, damaging the lifeblood of the club because “nobody understands”. Time and time again you and your equally-afflicted know-noughts roll out the ‘legacy’ argument and cite ‘stability’ as the raison d’être, but the fact is Clough is woefully out of his depth.
The team has improved enormously? You’re kidding me, right?!! When a parks footballer like Jake Buxton gets MOTM on Saturday and becomes, according to the likes of you, a ‘legend’ on Tuesday, you’re trying to tell me the team has improved?!!
You are a patsy, afraid to question anyone or anything that has the club logo attached to it. It’s little wonder the Americans don’t need to worry about hiring a proper manager when there’s enough idiots happy to swallow the garbage they come out with about Clough being ‘our man’ and be satisfied.
Seeing as you clearly have no understanding of what it is to be a TRUE supporter of a club (as you seem to believe swapping allegiances is a viable option) then maybe YOU should change to a club more suited to YOUR lofty ambitions: perhaps a Chesapeake Under 10’s second eleven?
posted on 15/3/12
Can you feel the love in the room?
We are currently 13th, 8 points away from the play-off places and 18 away from relegation. If this is "woefully out of his depth", what does it say about the managers of the teams below Derby? Leicester and their billions are 2 points better off than Derby at the moment. Sure, we all want better and we always will. I think that this season there has been overall improvement, particularly with the emergence of the younger players. This is a vital part of any club which has been cruelly neglected by previous managers who have had better success with the first team but which is a vital part of the manager's job. As Clough has said, he wants to make the right decisions for the benefit of the club whether he is here or not, and this makes a good change from the self-serving managers who are the norm.
But it's easier for you to pass off anyone's opinion other than your own as being simply because they can't see straight through their misty-eyed nostalgia. More mature people than yourself might acknowledge Clough's tactical inflexibility and stubbornness, debate the merits of various players and their cost to the club and give credit where it is due. You 666, can't bring yourself to give Clough credit for anything, which sort of makes you the patsy, scared to question yourself and your "stance" because you can't bear the consequences of being "wrong", not that right and wrong is the way to think of it anyway. This rigid adherence to one extreme end of a continuous spectrum of opinion and a refusal to challenge any aspect of it is a sign of weakness, not strength. And lay off Jake.
posted on 15/3/12
I've acknowledged where Clough has made improvements elsewhere: this was a direct question to me, about GSE, which I've answered.
"And lay off Jake"
What, are you the mafia now or something? I think perhaps your God-complex has you over stretching your authority somewhat, so allow me to clarify;
Shush.
posted on 15/3/12
"The longer you happy-clappers perpetuate this cycle of abuse, the longer it will continue; you’re the Emo kid of football supporters, damaging the lifeblood of the club because “nobody understands”. Time and time again you and your equally-afflicted know-noughts roll out the ‘legacy’ argument and cite ‘stability’ as the raison d’être, but the fact is Clough is woefully out of his depth."
Do you feel better now?
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