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posted on 20/9/20

Leeds were all over the place for most of their game against Liverpool, hence they conceded 3 goals and could have conceded more.

And a common point people make about that game is that it shows Liverpool are vulnerable defensively, but that was probably down to sharpness and they were never going to be that bad two games in a row anyway.

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Do Everton and Arsenal look better than us based on the last 15 months or are you admitting you’re judging us on two games?

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Anyway i am wary of this escalating. I like Biggish and Randomer. I jusr despair at how poor this team is off the ball after a year under the same manager. But clearly others disagree.
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2 games isn't a big sample size.

Though I'm slightly concerned Lampard isn't control freakery enough for modern football.
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If someone brings up 2 games again when I have said about 45959594393993922929 times this is about performance over 15 months I may reach through the screen and strangle you.
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Please don't.

But we are already a different team to last season. We're not playing with a 'reference point'* CF like Giroud or Abraham and we're not playing with an attacker like Willian who is pretty exceptional at finding space and retaining possession in the final third. We're clearly struggling to figure out how to move the ball forward as a result and that is disrupting everything. In 10-15 games, we'll have a better idea about what Lampard is really like.

*I hate myself for saying that
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Very good point. Frank has to find a way to accommodate for the liss of Willian. In the two ganes so far he has been badly missed and we are just not effective enough in transition without him. So Frank CHO?

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comment by Kaiser Havertz (U5245)
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Do Everton and Arsenal look better than us based on the last 15 months or are you admitting you’re judging us on two games?
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The Arsenal comparision with us is a joke. Played Fulham and West Ham. How good we would look against them. Perspective is needed here.

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Leeds almost scraping a result against an out of sorts Liverpool doesn’t mean they played well or had structure. They were actually a bit of a shambles really

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Npe you have been complaining about us camping in our box and playing like cowards yet you think Arsenal look better than us when that’s basically all they do.

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Ziyech is the player we are hoping replaces Willian.

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Leeds almost scraping a result against an out of sorts Liverpool doesn’t mean they played well or had structure. They were actually a bit of a shambles really
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"Yeah, well, that is just like your opinion man"

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Great film

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Anyway i am wary of this escalating. I like Biggish and Randomer. I jusr despair at how poor this team is off the ball after a year under the same manager. But clearly others disagree.
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2 games isn't a big sample size.

Though I'm slightly concerned Lampard isn't control freakery enough for modern football.
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If someone brings up 2 games again when I have said about 45959594393993922929 times this is about performance over 15 months I may reach through the screen and strangle you.
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Please don't.

But we are already a different team to last season. We're not playing with a 'reference point'* CF like Giroud or Abraham and we're not playing with an attacker like Willian who is pretty exceptional at finding space and retaining possession in the final third. We're clearly struggling to figure out how to move the ball forward as a result and that is disrupting everything. In 10-15 games, we'll have a better idea about what Lampard is really like.

*I hate myself for saying that
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Very good point. Frank has to find a way to accommodate for the liss of Willian. In the two ganes so far he has been badly missed and we are just not effective enough in transition without him. So Frank CHO?
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15 games, could be 8th by then as I said.

Also, he has had 15 months to establish a steam, system, structure and defensive methods.

He has failed. To the point you three are telling me has thrown the board in the air and started again?

And this doesn't raise questions for you?

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No, he has brought 7 new players, 6 of which are likely to be regulars. That is starting overr by anyone's standards.

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comment by NPE V (U22288)
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comment by NPE V (U22288)
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Anyway i am wary of this escalating. I like Biggish and Randomer. I jusr despair at how poor this team is off the ball after a year under the same manager. But clearly others disagree.
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2 games isn't a big sample size.

Though I'm slightly concerned Lampard isn't control freakery enough for modern football.
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If someone brings up 2 games again when I have said about 45959594393993922929 times this is about performance over 15 months I may reach through the screen and strangle you.
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Please don't.

But we are already a different team to last season. We're not playing with a 'reference point'* CF like Giroud or Abraham and we're not playing with an attacker like Willian who is pretty exceptional at finding space and retaining possession in the final third. We're clearly struggling to figure out how to move the ball forward as a result and that is disrupting everything. In 10-15 games, we'll have a better idea about what Lampard is really like.

*I hate myself for saying that
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Very good point. Frank has to find a way to accommodate for the liss of Willian. In the two ganes so far he has been badly missed and we are just not effective enough in transition without him. So Frank CHO?
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15 games, could be 8th by then as I said.

Also, he has had 15 months to establish a steam, system, structure and defensive methods.

He has failed. To the point you three are telling me has thrown the board in the air and started again?

And this doesn't raise questions for you?

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No, he has brought 7 new players, 6 of which are likely to be regulars. That is starting overr by anyone's standards.
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Yes. Agree completely. But he is using players from last season and hasn't improved much if anything. Thats the worrying part. Zouma winning headers isn't down to lamps. Kante being healthier isn't down to lamps.

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15 months is a complete stretch btw. I’m sure they got plenty of tactical work done when they were stuck in the house for 3 months

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Season’s over. We aren’t perfect after two games

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Lol

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