comment by Blarmy (U14547)
posted 4 minutes ago
Results recently aint super bad though out of context

Beat Pool and Utd
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Yeah you'd have hoped that those two wins would have put us in a much better position but we're still biting our nails and probably needing another win at Forest. Sucks but we only have ourselves to blame with other results in the second half of this season.

comment by Blarmy (U14547)
posted 5 minutes ago

Results recently aint super bad though out of context

Beat Pool and Utd
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Yep, pretend we beat Ipswich & our results since the end of February look respectable. The run of 2 wins in 10 during the winter is what's sucker punched us.

That's Marseca's best claim to be a Chelsea manager to date - great start, dreadful mid-season, (mini) recovery at the end - the old school Chelsea way

I can't believe that no other team, bar Liverpool, broke the 2pts per game barrier. Mediocrity at its best.

Not that he would make much difference anyway, but does anyone know if Nkunku will be fit for the Forest game?

comment by Blarmy (U14547)
posted 25 minutes ago
The Jackson red gets more annoying
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He is shte anyway

comment by Sheriff JW Pepper (U1007)
posted 16 minutes ago
comment by Simon West (U1830)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Blarmy (U14547)
posted less than a minute ago
The Jackson red gets more annoying
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It's annoying but we had dug our grave already by p 1 5 5 poor performances and lack of attacking against relegation fodder, Newcastle were always gonna be a tough game. Added to that the lack of understanding by our SD has massively cost us, cos overall a 2 year old problem has bitten us in the @s5.
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Jackson can basically fack off...we don't need him
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Echoes of Cucurella and Caicedo

comment by SWTN - Judas is number 1 (U7916)
posted 4 minutes ago
I can't believe that no other team, bar Liverpool, broke the 2pts per game barrier. Mediocrity at its best.
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We haven't for 8 years

comment by BlueJ2 (U4630)
posted 2 minutes ago
Not that he would make much difference anyway, but does anyone know if Nkunku will be fit for the Forest game?
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I have a feeling he’s been frozen out. Maresca said a few weeks ago there wasn’t space for him on the bench even though we had a bench stacked with defenders.

The key is not going behind to Forest.

I watched last 30 minutes versus West Ham, they sheitehoused so much the ball was barely in play. Literally every time the ball went out a player went down, and so many orchestrated stoppage time subs.

comment by NPE - Maresca's Minions (U22712)
posted 27 seconds ago

The key is not going behind to Forest.

I watched last 30 minutes versus West Ham, they sheitehoused so much the ball was barely in play. Literally every time the ball went out a player went down, and so many orchestrated stoppage time subs.
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Players should be aware of this without needing a reminder. They pulled one of their best sh!thouse jobs this season in the reserve fixture.

Howdy

comment by NPE - Maresca's Minions (U22712)
posted 14 minutes ago
The key is not going behind to Forest.

I watched last 30 minutes versus West Ham, they sheitehoused so much the ball was barely in play. Literally every time the ball went out a player went down, and so many orchestrated stoppage time subs.
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Precisely why we gotta be solid when the game starts. Can’t concede early like at Newcastle in a similar situation.

comment by NPE - Maresca's Minions (U22712)
posted 31 minutes ago
comment by SWTN - Judas is number 1 (U7916)
posted 4 minutes ago
I can't believe that no other team, bar Liverpool, broke the 2pts per game barrier. Mediocrity at its best.
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We haven't for 8 years
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The point is though normally at least the top 3 teams clear 76 points in a season.

comment by SWTN - Judas is number 1 (U7916)
posted 32 minutes ago
comment by NPE - Maresca's Minions (U22712)
posted 31 minutes ago
comment by SWTN - Judas is number 1 (U7916)
posted 4 minutes ago
I can't believe that no other team, bar Liverpool, broke the 2pts per game barrier. Mediocrity at its best.
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We haven't for 8 years
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The point is though normally at least the top 3 teams clear 76 points in a season.
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Look at the bottom as well - most seasons the Spuddlings and United would have been in a relegation fight instead they aren't worried and Southampton

comment by soccerlol (U7650)
posted about an hour ago
Howdy
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Morning

comment by CSTP (U1453)
posted 23 minutes ago
comment by NPE - Maresca's Minions (U22712)
posted 14 minutes ago
The key is not going behind to Forest.

I watched last 30 minutes versus West Ham, they sheitehoused so much the ball was barely in play. Literally every time the ball went out a player went down, and so many orchestrated stoppage time subs.
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Precisely why we gotta be solid when the game starts. Can’t concede early like at Newcastle in a similar situation.
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Newcastle really hit the hi energy press button right from the start and we couldn't cope. I can't really remember how Forest play, but I don't think they will press like Newcastle did

comment by Simon West (U1830)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by SWTN - Judas is number 1 (U7916)
posted 32 minutes ago
comment by NPE - Maresca's Minions (U22712)
posted 31 minutes ago
comment by SWTN - Judas is number 1 (U7916)
posted 4 minutes ago
I can't believe that no other team, bar Liverpool, broke the 2pts per game barrier. Mediocrity at its best.
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We haven't for 8 years
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The point is though normally at least the top 3 teams clear 76 points in a season.
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Look at the bottom as well - most seasons the Spuddlings and United would have been in a relegation fight instead they aren't worried and Southampton
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Exactly, it's like a lot of points have been given away to the top 14 this seaaon. Personally, I feel its been a very low quality PL season all round.

comment by SWTN - Judas is number 1 (U7916)
posted 39 minutes ago
comment by NPE - Maresca's Minions (U22712)
posted 31 minutes ago
comment by SWTN - Judas is number 1 (U7916)
posted 4 minutes ago
I can't believe that no other team, bar Liverpool, broke the 2pts per game barrier. Mediocrity at its best.
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We haven't for 8 years
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The point is though normally at least the top 3 teams clear 76 points in a season.
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That's been normalised under Pep in the last 10 years or so.

Quite common in 90s and 00s for that not to be case. Might be we're pivoting to old norms.

comment by SWTN - Judas is number 1 (U7916)
posted 15 minutes ago
comment by Simon West (U1830)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by SWTN - Judas is number 1 (U7916)
posted 32 minutes ago
comment by NPE - Maresca's Minions (U22712)
posted 31 minutes ago
comment by SWTN - Judas is number 1 (U7916)
posted 4 minutes ago
I can't believe that no other team, bar Liverpool, broke the 2pts per game barrier. Mediocrity at its best.
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We haven't for 8 years
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The point is though normally at least the top 3 teams clear 76 points in a season.
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Look at the bottom as well - most seasons the Spuddlings and United would have been in a relegation fight instead they aren't worried and Southampton
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Exactly, it's like a lot of points have been given away to the top 14 this seaaon. Personally, I feel its been a very low quality PL season all round.
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Honestly feel the general quality of football is at an all time low. Come on Vini J and Saka being discussed for Ballon d'or shows how low the current bar is

Think 'general quality' is actually higher. More teams have good players and tactically teams are well organised. As teams, it's never been more sophisticated which is why it's increasingly boring.

What there is less of, which you are touching on with ballon d'or comment, is individual quality and characters. Less inspired individual moves or individual players prepared to take risks.

comment by NPE - Maresca's Minions (U22712)
posted 2 minutes ago
Think 'general quality' is actually higher. More teams have good players and tactically teams are well organised. As teams, it's never been more sophisticated which is why it's increasingly boring.

What there is less of, which you are touching on with ballon d'or comment, is individual quality and characters. Less inspired individual moves or individual players prepared to take risks.
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Have to agree to disagree mate, don't think the quality is higher at all, you are correct that systems have become more sophisticated, but I believe any of the big hitters from 10-15 years ago (Us, Real, Barca Bayern etc.) walk the Prem or Champions League.

What NPE said. This is the result of the Premier League's middle tier being the strongest it's ever been, which is most of the league so technically the quality has risen.

The problem with this from an entertainment standpoint is the spectacle comes from the top & bottom, and that's feeling the effects. The top can't produce memorable teams in this environment, and the bottom can't compete so there's no possibilities for fresh teams to stay in the league.

The bottom being too weak to survive is particuplarly concerning cos Leicester, Ipswich & Southampton were three of the Championship's best promoted sides in years.

That gap has hit a troubling level.

Ok yeh you guys are right maybe on the mid to lower getting more quality, but imo the top quality has dropped considerably

I’d have to agree with NPE. The money flowing into the PL means that nowadays all teams have the ability to buy great players, so the difference between the best teams and the middle tier teams is no longer so pronounced. Middle to lower division teams frequently take points off top teams - much more so than in the old days.