comment by Bill Nick: pop star (U23088)
posted 16 seconds ago
comment by Pun Muad'Dib Atreides (U21588)
posted 11 seconds ago
Star Trek the Voyage Home is a bad version of Star Trek the Voyage Home
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I think it's probably better than Barbie though.
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Barbie aside, the Voyage Home is bad.

Most ridiculous plot of any Star Trek movie.

comment by Pun Muad'Dib Atreides (U21588)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Bill Nick: pop star (U23088)
posted 16 seconds ago
comment by Pun Muad'Dib Atreides (U21588)
posted 11 seconds ago
Star Trek the Voyage Home is a bad version of Star Trek the Voyage Home
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I think it's probably better than Barbie though.
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Barbie aside, the Voyage Home is bad.

Most ridiculous plot of any Star Trek movie.
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didn't Spock come back to life in one after dying in the previous one?

comment by Bill Nick: pop star (U23088)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Pun Muad'Dib Atreides (U21588)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Bill Nick: pop star (U23088)
posted 16 seconds ago
comment by Pun Muad'Dib Atreides (U21588)
posted 11 seconds ago
Star Trek the Voyage Home is a bad version of Star Trek the Voyage Home
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I think it's probably better than Barbie though.
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Barbie aside, the Voyage Home is bad.

Most ridiculous plot of any Star Trek movie.
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didn't Spock come back to life in one after dying in the previous one?
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Yeah, the Search for Spock.

Voyage Home they casually went back in time to bring back a humpback whale.

comment by Pun Muad'Dib Atreides (U21588)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Bill Nick: pop star (U23088)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Pun Muad'Dib Atreides (U21588)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Bill Nick: pop star (U23088)
posted 16 seconds ago
comment by Pun Muad'Dib Atreides (U21588)
posted 11 seconds ago
Star Trek the Voyage Home is a bad version of Star Trek the Voyage Home
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I think it's probably better than Barbie though.
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Barbie aside, the Voyage Home is bad.

Most ridiculous plot of any Star Trek movie.
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didn't Spock come back to life in one after dying in the previous one?
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Yeah, the Search for Spock.

Voyage Home they casually went back in time to bring back a humpback whale.
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with amusing consequences tbf

I’m by no means a Trekkie but I’m miles closer to being one than I am a fan of Star Wars, js

Although Battlestar Galactica (2004) is my sci-fi jam

comment by The Guvnor XI -Iron sharpens Iron- (U12889)
posted 7 hours, 1 minute ago
comment by Bill Nick: pop star (U23088)
posted 22 minutes ago
comment by it'sonlyagame (U6426)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Bill Nick: pop star (U23088)
posted 5 hours, 28 minutes ago
comment by The Guvnor XI -Iron sharpens Iron- (U12889)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Bill Nick: pop star (U23088)
posted about 15 hours ago
I gave Grave of the Fireflies 45 minutes (seemed fairly decent) and Hana-Bi 30 minutes (not my cup of tea).
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One does not simply give GOF 45 minutes. (Boromir Gif)
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40 minutes of that was out of respect to people on the thread.
Not that I hated it, just that I didn't find it amazing.
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Whereabouts in the story did you leave it?
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The mum had died. They'd had a row with the aunt or whoever she was, and I think they were heading off somewhere else.

Tbh, although I thought it was decent (apart from the animation being about 60 years behind) and quite emotional, I really can't imagine any turn of events that would transform it for my personal taste into a great.
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There isn't one moment. It's the whole journey from start to end that needs to be experienced, for you to appreciate it. The mum dying and the situation at their aunts are just some of the scenes that lend itself to the overall picture.
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honestly, not taking a shot here, but leaving a film, especially one highly recommended, midway through and basing an opinion on that doesn’t exactly strike me as a fan of film. These are pieces. Meant as a whole meal. Not a flash point you are supposed to get satisfaction out of immediately. Much like music/albums, sometimes these things need to grow on you or for you to grow to appreciate it.

Rotten tomatoes has movies at 100% with like 13 reviews that say things like “it was preferable to doing the laundry..” and people will see that and be like “hell ya I’ll watch that!” Because all they see is that percentage that means nothing other than reviewers (some bought) have said you could watch worse.

comment by RtM (U1097)
posted 3 hours, 41 minutes ago
comment by The Guvnor XI -Iron sharpens Iron- (U12889)
posted 7 hours, 1 minute ago
comment by Bill Nick: pop star (U23088)
posted 22 minutes ago
comment by it'sonlyagame (U6426)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Bill Nick: pop star (U23088)
posted 5 hours, 28 minutes ago
comment by The Guvnor XI -Iron sharpens Iron- (U12889)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Bill Nick: pop star (U23088)
posted about 15 hours ago
I gave Grave of the Fireflies 45 minutes (seemed fairly decent) and Hana-Bi 30 minutes (not my cup of tea).
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One does not simply give GOF 45 minutes. (Boromir Gif)
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40 minutes of that was out of respect to people on the thread.
Not that I hated it, just that I didn't find it amazing.
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Whereabouts in the story did you leave it?
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The mum had died. They'd had a row with the aunt or whoever she was, and I think they were heading off somewhere else.

Tbh, although I thought it was decent (apart from the animation being about 60 years behind) and quite emotional, I really can't imagine any turn of events that would transform it for my personal taste into a great.
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There isn't one moment. It's the whole journey from start to end that needs to be experienced, for you to appreciate it. The mum dying and the situation at their aunts are just some of the scenes that lend itself to the overall picture.
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honestly, not taking a shot here, but leaving a film, especially one highly recommended, midway through and basing an opinion on that doesn’t exactly strike me as a fan of film. These are pieces. Meant as a whole meal. Not a flash point you are supposed to get satisfaction out of immediately. Much like music/albums, sometimes these things need to grow on you or for you to grow to appreciate it.
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I didn't try Grave of the Fireflies because it struck me as being a film which I thought I would likely enjoy or find interest in, but out of fraternity with someone on here who recommended it. For the same reason I gave the film 45 minutes.
It struck me as being reliant on the viewer making a connection with the 2 central characters. I did not do that, and so the movie was not working for me, and was not going to do so.
If you or others want to benefit from the (thousands of hours of) work and research which I've done, you are welcome to do so - or not - as you choose.

Each to their own. Sometimes you start a book and just can't get past a few pages because it fails to grab you. We are each moved different stuff. I only watched Grave of the Fireflies because my eldest's an anime buff, but as someone who is highly sensitive to human suffering and interested in knowing more about the story of Japan in the Second World War, I felt invested enough in the story to want to go through with it.

It wasn't until after the film that I learnt it was based on a true story, and that the original author had written it as an apology to those who, as a kid, he'd been unable to save.

It's one of those films that does more for me from the human angle than the purely cinematic angle. I get that Bill wasn't actually approaching the story from the former point of view.

Oh, and I enjoyed Barbie.

comment by RtM (U1097)
posted 4 hours, 34 minutes ago
Rotten tomatoes has movies at 100% with like 13 reviews that say things like “it was preferable to doing the laundry..” and people will see that and be like “hell ya I’ll watch that!” Because all they see is that percentage that means nothing other than reviewers (some bought) have said you could watch worse.
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Never looked at RT but I think the highest rated film on IMDB is at something like 94% is it not...maybe Shawshank

comment by Sheriff JW Pepper (U1007)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by RtM (U1097)
posted 4 hours, 34 minutes ago
Rotten tomatoes has movies at 100% with like 13 reviews that say things like “it was preferable to doing the laundry..” and people will see that and be like “hell ya I’ll watch that!” Because all they see is that percentage that means nothing other than reviewers (some bought) have said you could watch worse.
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Never looked at RT but I think the highest rated film on IMDB is at something like 94% is it not...maybe Shawshank
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not % - 9.3 out of ten...just checked

comment by it'sonlyagame (U6426)
posted 20 minutes ago
Each to their own. Sometimes you start a book and just can't get past a few pages because it fails to grab you. We are each moved different stuff. I only watched Grave of the Fireflies because my eldest's an anime buff, but as someone who is highly sensitive to human suffering and interested in knowing more about the story of Japan in the Second World War, I felt invested enough in the story to want to go through with it.

It wasn't until after the film that I learnt it was based on a true story, and that the original author had written it as an apology to those who, as a kid, he'd been unable to save.

It's one of those films that does more for me from the human angle than the purely cinematic angle. I get that Bill wasn't actually approaching the story from the former point of view.
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Sounds to me like he went in, thinking every scene would blow him away and when it didn't he stopped watching. He said it himself, he thought the movie was good for the 45 minutes but not exceptional. Personally, if a movie is decent 45 minutes in, I'm watching until the end.

comment by Sheriff JW Pepper (U1007)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by RtM (U1097)
posted 4 hours, 34 minutes ago
Rotten tomatoes has movies at 100% with like 13 reviews that say things like “it was preferable to doing the laundry..” and people will see that and be like “hell ya I’ll watch that!” Because all they see is that percentage that means nothing other than reviewers (some bought) have said you could watch worse.
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Never looked at RT but I think the highest rated film on IMDB is at something like 94% is it not...maybe Shawshank
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Personally I don't find the IMDB rankings at all reliable.
Metacritic is pretty good as it averages scores given, rather than just counting whether the critic gave it a thumbs up or down. The problem with Metacritic is doesn't have very wide coverage of films.

comment by it'sonlyagame (U6426)
posted 23 minutes ago
Each to their own. Sometimes you start a book and just can't get past a few pages because it fails to grab you. We are each moved different stuff. I only watched Grave of the Fireflies because my eldest's an anime buff, but as someone who is highly sensitive to human suffering and interested in knowing more about the story of Japan in the Second World War, I felt invested enough in the story to want to go through with it.

It wasn't until after the film that I learnt it was based on a true story, and that the original author had written it as an apology to those who, as a kid, he'd been unable to save.

It's one of those films that does more for me from the human angle than the purely cinematic angle. I get that Bill wasn't actually approaching the story from the former point of view.
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comment by The Guvnor XI -Iron sharpens Iron- (U12889)
posted 3 minutes ago

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Sounds to me like he went in, thinking every scene would blow him away
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Even though what I've written is
"I didn't try Grave of the Fireflies because it struck me as being a film which I thought I would likely enjoy or find interest in"

comment by Bill Nick: pop star (U23088)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Sheriff JW Pepper (U1007)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by RtM (U1097)
posted 4 hours, 34 minutes ago
Rotten tomatoes has movies at 100% with like 13 reviews that say things like “it was preferable to doing the laundry..” and people will see that and be like “hell ya I’ll watch that!” Because all they see is that percentage that means nothing other than reviewers (some bought) have said you could watch worse.
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Never looked at RT but I think the highest rated film on IMDB is at something like 94% is it not...maybe Shawshank
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Personally I don't find the IMDB rankings at all reliable.
Metacritic is pretty good as it averages scores given, rather than just counting whether the critic gave it a thumbs up or down. The problem with Metacritic is doesn't have very wide coverage of films.
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well - as in life everything is subjective & IMDB is no different, I usually find it to be about right, but you have to like the film subject

I wouldn't watch Lord of the rings films as they utterly bore the arrse off me...but there they all are in the top 20 or so

comment by Bill Nick: pop star (U23088)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by The Guvnor XI -Iron sharpens Iron- (U12889)
posted 3 minutes ago

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Sounds to me like he went in, thinking every scene would blow him away
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Even though what I've written is
"I didn't try Grave of the Fireflies because it struck me as being a film which I thought I would likely enjoy or find interest in"


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wouldn't watch this either....I don't even do animation films really

12 Angry Men is about No 5 - watched it about 5 years ago (in lockdown) - it's not that great

and how Gladiator is only No37 is beyond me really...

Oppenheimer is No 90 I thought is was a touch laborious personally

comment by Sheriff JW Pepper (U1007)
posted 3 minutes ago
12 Angry Men is about No 5 - watched it about 5 years ago (in lockdown) - it's not that great
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12 Angry Men scores highly in most greatest film lists.
Doesn't mean you have to agree with it (there are many films which are normally counted amongst the greatest that I don' like), but it's not just that ranking system which rates it very highly.
Personally I think it's a really good film.

I'm with you on animation. My only exception is Wall-E, which is just a quality piece of cinema.

comment by Sheriff JW Pepper (U1007)
posted 21 minutes ago
and how Gladiator is only No37 is beyond me really...

Oppenheimer is No 90 I thought is was a touch laborious personally
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Gladiator is goat level

I wouldn't watch Lord of the rings films as they utterly bore the arrse off me...but there they all are in the top 20 or so


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Best trilogy of all time (yes fack off Star Wars you are second or 3rd).

The production on Gladiator is terribly mixed.
Those early battlefield scenes are incredible, as are some of the gladiatorial scenes, but there are also shots which are totally lame. Some of the special effects look awful now, which isn't always the case for films of that or earlier eras.
A lot of the extras are unconvincing, and some of the acting's quite wooden, and in Phoenix's case a bit theatrical.
I also feel it's slightly too long, and a bit too torturous.
It's a riveting and compelling story though, and a film I used to love.
I think I might have taken too much account of its RToms score in discounting it from my list.

comment by it'sonlyagame (U6426)
posted 3 hours, 17 minutes ago
Oh, and I enjoyed Barbie.
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