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comment by groovyduringthewar (U1054)

posted 2 minutes ago

So the medicines I bought in India were all fakes ?
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If they worked, then they weren't fakes. However they didn't buy them from the UK to sell to you at a cheaper price.

So their selling fake Gaviscon,my bad.

comment by groovyduringthewar (U1054)

posted less than a minute ago

So their selling fake Gaviscon,my bad.
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Where was it manufactured?

comment by groovyduringthewar (U1054)
posted 10 minutes ago
Nothing to gain from the destruction of my country.
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Probably put the kibosh on your benefits.
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Nah. I'm doing well thanks, do not need benefits

More tory tax breaks and tax avoidance is what I need

Wheres term gone?
Term? What do we produce that the populous in india china and Indonesia can buy seeing as our wage rates are so much higher than theirs?

Never looked,but if it was made under license there must have been a cost involved.

comment by groovyduringthewar (U1054)
posted less than a minute ago
Never looked,but if it was made under license there must have been a cost involved.
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Yes. Even with that cost it is cheaper than making it here.

It is a trend that will continue unabated

comment by groovyduringthewar (U1054)

posted less than a minute ago

Never looked,but if it was made under license there must have been a cost involved.

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Maybe so, but at a cheaper cost than in the UK.

Any comments on the article I posted about May's voting record?

Any comments on the article I posted about May's voting record?
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Get real,she's a politician.

therefore, the question still stands. What can we produce in the UK that the populous in those countries will buy?

There will be many people in the UK that will be able to buy cheaper products from China, India, Indonesia which is why these countries want to rush to have a free trade deal with us.

Yes it will be bilateral, however disposable income will be the prime factor that will drive the direction of trade, which will fall in those countries favour.

comment by groovyduringthewar (U1054)
posted less than a minute ago
Any comments on the article I posted about May's voting record?
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Get real,she's a politician.
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So why do you guys keep buying their BS?

Is your hate for Europeans stronger than your love for your country?

Hunt keeps his job.

Incompetence is rewarded.

Name me a politician who hasn't pizzed backwards when the situation needed it.

comment by groovyduringthewar (U1054)
posted less than a minute ago
Name me a politician who hasn't pizzed backwards when the situation needed it.
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On every single policy they allegedly backed?

One of the reasons why I liked Cameron was because he said I'm going to feck you guys over and did it.

So if you do not believe these politicians, why vote for them

comment by Redinthehead - FreeGaza - فلسطين (U1860)
posted 42 minutes ago

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oh dear...
You really are spoonfed and take things at face value.

David Davis has worked in the automotive supply chain or... is he just presuming that because asia is a strong base for electronics, cars have a lot of electronics thereby asia is good for the motor industry..

Is that what looking at the big picture is? ok, lets take this from the automotive supply chain, as it stands.

The number one provider of electronics including car multimedia,electronics, steering systems, battery technology in the world, and especially Europe is Robert Bosch, a German company.

Do you know how long it takes for a container to travel from Asia to Coventry? 4-5 weeks at a cost of around £3200

How long does it take a truck to travel from Stuttgart to Coventry? 24 hours at a cost of £1400

Automotive production lines have their lines set up to receive inputs in specially designed containers, these operate in a close loop being refilled and returned.

Your bigger picture is actually nonsensical, and doesn't work in the real world.

This is why, every mass manufacturer of cars in the UK were pro-remain. There are massive advantages to having free trade where 60% of their components come from Europe.

They know a thing or two about making cars, and their costs, and they'd want to remain as competitive as they can.

I suggest you listen to those guys, rather than a politician.
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Bosch who source the components to their products from Asia. Bosch who are continuously moving more and more of their Production & Manufacturing to Asia and the Americas. Should the UK negotiate favorable trade deals with Asian countries, it would be in Bosch's best interest to invest more into the UK like it has done in Turkey.

You can ship a full container to and from America (where Bosch USA can supply the exact same products) in two-three weeks for roughly £1500.

It also does not cost £3200 to ship a container from Asia to the UK, my company receives roughly 50 per year from China at around £2000 each. Lead time is less relevant in a manufacturers supply chain, consistency is more of an issue. If a car manufacturer needs components with 24 hours then somebody has truly F'd up.

One of the reasons why I liked Cameron was because he said I'm going to feck you guys over and did it.
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Did he,I remember him leaving Downing street following a furniture van.

comment by ManUtdDaredevil (U9612)
posted 46 seconds ago
Hunt keeps his job.

Incompetence is rewarded.
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Not surprised tbf. Had she clarified her stance on the NHS, is she for or against privatisation?

comment by RonAlvinho (U6117)



posted 27 seconds ago


comment by Redinthehead - FreeGaza - فلسطين (U1860)
posted 42 minutes ago

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oh dear...
You really are spoonfed and take things at face value.

David Davis has worked in the automotive supply chain or... is he just presuming that because asia is a strong base for electronics, cars have a lot of electronics thereby asia is good for the motor industry..

Is that what looking at the big picture is? ok, lets take this from the automotive supply chain, as it stands.

The number one provider of electronics including car multimedia,electronics, steering systems, battery technology in the world, and especially Europe is Robert Bosch, a German company.

Do you know how long it takes for a container to travel from Asia to Coventry? 4-5 weeks at a cost of around £3200

How long does it take a truck to travel from Stuttgart to Coventry? 24 hours at a cost of £1400

Automotive production lines have their lines set up to receive inputs in specially designed containers, these operate in a close loop being refilled and returned.

Your bigger picture is actually nonsensical, and doesn't work in the real world.

This is why, every mass manufacturer of cars in the UK were pro-remain. There are massive advantages to having free trade where 60% of their components come from Europe.

They know a thing or two about making cars, and their costs, and they'd want to remain as competitive as they can.

I suggest you listen to those guys, rather than a politician.
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Bosch who source the components to their products from Asia. Bosch who are continuously moving more and more of their Production & Manufacturing to Asia and the Americas. Should the UK negotiate favorable trade deals with Asian countries, it would be in Bosch's best interest to invest more into the UK like it has done in Turkey.

You can ship a full container to and from America (where Bosch USA can supply the exact same products) in two-three weeks for roughly £1500.

It also does not cost £3200 to ship a container from Asia to the UK, my company receives roughly 50 per year from China at around £2000 each. Lead time is less relevant in a manufacturers supply chain, consistency is more of an issue. If a car manufacturer needs components with 24 hours then somebody has truly F'd up.

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You don't read and then end up looking an idiot. Your company is not in the automotive sector by your rambles.

I said shipping a container to Coventry, midpoint and heartland of the automotive industry. The cost of getting the container into Felixstowe/Southampton may be near what you said, however that cargo has to be devanned (offloaded) to be put on a curtain side trailer.This costs. The cargo will need to be put into those production line compatible containers, and then transported in.

Again this costs.

Also - automotive models undergo redesigns and revamps around every three months, which leads to a change in components - this is why automotive manufacturers keep all suppliers as close as possible.

You also didn't address the point as to why mass manufacturers of cars all supported remaining in the EU.

You wouldn't listen to them, but would rather listen to David Davis.

60% of components used in manufacturing cars in the UK come from the EU. Delivery lead times are closer and yes, if there is a quality issue, there can be a rapid turnaround in 24 hours rather than over a month or get the components in the air at massive costs.

This is the reality..

On the export to China, India etc, I think I recall somebody on here (or maybe another thread) posting an article that stated the UK exports more to Belgium alone than China & India combined?

Far from an expert and cba to look into it, but as a Leave voter I have to admit that I don't see much luck for us in exporting to these countries. I'd argue that the resources we can import from China/India, will benefit what we can export to the ROW.

With all these transport costs maybe we could start manufacturing some of them in house.

but as a Leave voter I have to admit that I don't see much luck for us in exporting to these countries.

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This is the argument us remain folk make when someone says we are free to trade with the rest of the world.

We are inviting the prospect of barriers to trade with the EU, which is a huge export market, and opening ourselves up to cheap imports from ROW, most of whom can't afford to buy from us.

Do we drop minimum wage rates so we can sell more?

Working man gets shafted again if that's the case. Who gets the blame?

comment by groovyduringthewar (U1054)
posted 22 minutes ago
One of the reasons why I liked Cameron was because he said I'm going to feck you guys over and did it.
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Did he,I remember him leaving Downing street following a furniture van.
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Have you seen the record levels of debt?

comment by groovyduringthewar (U1054)
posted 15 minutes ago
With all these transport costs maybe we could start manufacturing some of them in house
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Agreed, would you like to chart the investment in UK plc by tory govts since Thatcher?

When you do, do you know what Dyson did with the manufacturing side of his business?