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comment by Coisty (U12077)
posted 1 hour, 48 minutes ago
I don't mean get Walter Smith back.
I mean, all the points made in the OP could have been labelled at Smith back when Souness moved on.
Luckily, the same closed minds weren't in operation back in the day.
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I find this comment utterly laughable Coisty mate
Before being given the Rangers job, Walter Smith had been a Scotland youth coach at various levels, assistant manager to Jim McLean at Dundee United at a time when they were winning the league and reaching European finals, assistant manager to Alex Ferguson with the national team.....let alone worked under Souness as assistant at Rangers
Trying to compare a CV like that with a guy who's only ever been a youth coach, is utterly ridiculous
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comment by Coisty (U12077)
posted 1 hour, 48 minutes ago
I don't mean get Walter Smith back.
I mean, all the points made in the OP could have been labelled at Smith back when Souness moved on.
Luckily, the same closed minds weren't in operation back in the day.
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I find this comment utterly laughable Coisty mate
Before being given the Rangers job, Walter Smith had been a Scotland youth coach at various levels, assistant manager to Jim McLean at Dundee United at a time when they were winning the league and reaching European finals, assistant manager to Alex Ferguson with the national team.....let alone worked under Souness as assistant at Rangers
Trying to compare a CV like that with a guy who's only ever been a youth coach, is utterly ridiculous
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What was Ally McCoists CV like before he became manager and how well did he do?
You cannot know how well someone will do until they are given the role full time. You can have tons of experience and fail still. You can be a successful manager elsewhere and fail still. It's impossible to know how well someone will do good or bad until they get the gig.
I should also say Murty has had more experience managing than Walter did before he got the gig full time. Murty has taken charge of 12 first team games now.
comment by Castle Grayskull's Gers Men (U3573)
posted 5 minutes ago
I should also say Murty has had more experience managing than Walter did before he got the gig full time. Murty has taken charge of 12 first team games now.
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Most of souness time was before I can remember but I'd guess that Walter was managing a fair bit when souness was playing or sent off?
really no comparison between Walter and Murty
Walter had much more experience
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comment by Coisty (U12077)
posted 1 hour, 48 minutes ago
I don't mean get Walter Smith back.
I mean, all the points made in the OP could have been labelled at Smith back when Souness moved on.
Luckily, the same closed minds weren't in operation back in the day.
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I find this comment utterly laughable Coisty mate
Before being given the Rangers job, Walter Smith had been a Scotland youth coach at various levels, assistant manager to Jim McLean at Dundee United at a time when they were winning the league and reaching European finals, assistant manager to Alex Ferguson with the national team.....let alone worked under Souness as assistant at Rangers
Trying to compare a CV like that with a guy who's only ever been a youth coach, is utterly ridiculous
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What was Ally McCoists CV like before he became manager and how well did he do?
You cannot know how well someone will do until they are given the role full time. You can have tons of experience and fail still. You can be a successful manager elsewhere and fail still. It's impossible to know how well someone will do good or bad until they get the gig.
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Walter was a risk at the time. A big risk. Same as Murty.
Murty will get an opportunity to manage full time by start of next season I think though. He's shown that he's worth a go to someone if it isn't rangers.
Difference was. Rangers were in rude health then. Not now. Murty is a gamble worth taking on so many levels imo
There was an element of risk with Walter, but he was inheriting a title winning team, and more crucially, had been involved with thin players in the first t am for a number of years
Murty, if given the job, would be tasked with improving this team to consistent 2nd place at least /title challenging standard
It’s a million miles away from the risk of giving Walter the job after Souness
Of course Walter was a risk and Murty is also. He might fail, on the other hand he might be an amazing manager who becomes one of the best in the world down the line. No-one knows how good a manger he potentially is. Walter was a risk that worked out massively. Murty might be the same. Every successful top manager starts a job somewhere and does well.
Pedro was a risk aswell, it’s been said often enough that we ne d a safe pa of hands at the moment
We can’t afford another risky appointment financially either
comment by Miller (U9310)
posted 4 minutes ago
Murty will get an opportunity to manage full time by start of next season I think though. He's shown that he's worth a go to someone if it isn't rangers.
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That's my biggets fear in this, that we don't appoint him and he's a success elsewhere. I think other clubs will come in for him if we don't appoint him.
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comment by Stevie - time for real change (U11028)
posted 31 seconds ago
Pedro was a risk aswell, it’s been said often enough that we ne d a safe pa of hands at the moment
We can’t afford another risky appointment financially either
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Every single manager for Rangers is a risk bar getting in Jose or Pep ffs. We financially cannot afford to appoint one of the worlds best managers. However we can afford to pay managers who potentially could become of of the best for peanuts. Or we can pay for average managers.
Closest is maybe Lennon if you take away the playing career at the club. Although I don't think Lennon would've got near kept if he hadn't been a big player for celtic for 6-7 years.
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I’m not saying we appoint Pep or Jose ffs
Both Warburton and Pedro had zero experience in a big job, or in this league
Murty hasn’t managed anywhere other than youth level, and his record as caretaker so far as been average at best
The chairman went on at length about managing risk being very important
Appointing Murty is far more of a risk than appointing a manger with knowledge of this league and a degree of success behind him
Appoint Eck would be far less of a risk than Murty for example
Why are you worried about the January transfer window?
So thought the reason you brought in a DoF was so that the manager didn't have to spend his time looking for and bringing in players.
Or is the DoF just sort by on his erchie, pulling in a free wage? He certainly hasn't been helping look for a new manager at any rate 😂
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Have to agree with you Silver
Often felt the same way about McCoist
Always got the impression he felt he was one of the lads rather than the gaffer, was like a player with a suit on, and it was to his detriment
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comment by Coisty (U12077)
posted 1 hour, 48 minutes ago
I don't mean get Walter Smith back.
I mean, all the points made in the OP could have been labelled at Smith back when Souness moved on.
Luckily, the same closed minds weren't in operation back in the day.
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I find this comment utterly laughable Coisty mate
Before being given the Rangers job, Walter Smith had been a Scotland youth coach at various levels, assistant manager to Jim McLean at Dundee United at a time when they were winning the league and reaching European finals, assistant manager to Alex Ferguson with the national team.....let alone worked under Souness as assistant at Rangers
Trying to compare a CV like that with a guy who's only ever been a youth coach, is utterly ridiculous
posted on 8/12/17
comment by Stevie - time for real change (U11028)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Coisty (U12077)
posted 1 hour, 48 minutes ago
I don't mean get Walter Smith back.
I mean, all the points made in the OP could have been labelled at Smith back when Souness moved on.
Luckily, the same closed minds weren't in operation back in the day.
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I find this comment utterly laughable Coisty mate
Before being given the Rangers job, Walter Smith had been a Scotland youth coach at various levels, assistant manager to Jim McLean at Dundee United at a time when they were winning the league and reaching European finals, assistant manager to Alex Ferguson with the national team.....let alone worked under Souness as assistant at Rangers
Trying to compare a CV like that with a guy who's only ever been a youth coach, is utterly ridiculous
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What was Ally McCoists CV like before he became manager and how well did he do?
You cannot know how well someone will do until they are given the role full time. You can have tons of experience and fail still. You can be a successful manager elsewhere and fail still. It's impossible to know how well someone will do good or bad until they get the gig.
posted on 8/12/17
I should also say Murty has had more experience managing than Walter did before he got the gig full time. Murty has taken charge of 12 first team games now.
posted on 8/12/17
comment by Castle Grayskull's Gers Men (U3573)
posted 5 minutes ago
I should also say Murty has had more experience managing than Walter did before he got the gig full time. Murty has taken charge of 12 first team games now.
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Most of souness time was before I can remember but I'd guess that Walter was managing a fair bit when souness was playing or sent off?
posted on 8/12/17
really no comparison between Walter and Murty
Walter had much more experience
posted on 8/12/17
comment by Castle Grayskull's Gers Men (U3573)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Stevie - time for real change (U11028)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Coisty (U12077)
posted 1 hour, 48 minutes ago
I don't mean get Walter Smith back.
I mean, all the points made in the OP could have been labelled at Smith back when Souness moved on.
Luckily, the same closed minds weren't in operation back in the day.
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I find this comment utterly laughable Coisty mate
Before being given the Rangers job, Walter Smith had been a Scotland youth coach at various levels, assistant manager to Jim McLean at Dundee United at a time when they were winning the league and reaching European finals, assistant manager to Alex Ferguson with the national team.....let alone worked under Souness as assistant at Rangers
Trying to compare a CV like that with a guy who's only ever been a youth coach, is utterly ridiculous
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What was Ally McCoists CV like before he became manager and how well did he do?
You cannot know how well someone will do until they are given the role full time. You can have tons of experience and fail still. You can be a successful manager elsewhere and fail still. It's impossible to know how well someone will do good or bad until they get the gig.
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Walter was a risk at the time. A big risk. Same as Murty.
posted on 8/12/17
Murty will get an opportunity to manage full time by start of next season I think though. He's shown that he's worth a go to someone if it isn't rangers.
posted on 8/12/17
Difference was. Rangers were in rude health then. Not now. Murty is a gamble worth taking on so many levels imo
posted on 8/12/17
There was an element of risk with Walter, but he was inheriting a title winning team, and more crucially, had been involved with thin players in the first t am for a number of years
Murty, if given the job, would be tasked with improving this team to consistent 2nd place at least /title challenging standard
It’s a million miles away from the risk of giving Walter the job after Souness
posted on 8/12/17
Of course Walter was a risk and Murty is also. He might fail, on the other hand he might be an amazing manager who becomes one of the best in the world down the line. No-one knows how good a manger he potentially is. Walter was a risk that worked out massively. Murty might be the same. Every successful top manager starts a job somewhere and does well.
posted on 8/12/17
Pedro was a risk aswell, it’s been said often enough that we ne d a safe pa of hands at the moment
We can’t afford another risky appointment financially either
posted on 8/12/17
comment by Miller (U9310)
posted 4 minutes ago
Murty will get an opportunity to manage full time by start of next season I think though. He's shown that he's worth a go to someone if it isn't rangers.
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That's my biggets fear in this, that we don't appoint him and he's a success elsewhere. I think other clubs will come in for him if we don't appoint him.
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See this fcking iPad!
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comment by Stevie - time for real change (U11028)
posted 31 seconds ago
Pedro was a risk aswell, it’s been said often enough that we ne d a safe pa of hands at the moment
We can’t afford another risky appointment financially either
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Every single manager for Rangers is a risk bar getting in Jose or Pep ffs. We financially cannot afford to appoint one of the worlds best managers. However we can afford to pay managers who potentially could become of of the best for peanuts. Or we can pay for average managers.
posted on 8/12/17
Closest is maybe Lennon if you take away the playing career at the club. Although I don't think Lennon would've got near kept if he hadn't been a big player for celtic for 6-7 years.
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I’m not saying we appoint Pep or Jose ffs
Both Warburton and Pedro had zero experience in a big job, or in this league
Murty hasn’t managed anywhere other than youth level, and his record as caretaker so far as been average at best
The chairman went on at length about managing risk being very important
Appointing Murty is far more of a risk than appointing a manger with knowledge of this league and a degree of success behind him
Appoint Eck would be far less of a risk than Murty for example
posted on 8/12/17
Why are you worried about the January transfer window?
So thought the reason you brought in a DoF was so that the manager didn't have to spend his time looking for and bringing in players.
Or is the DoF just sort by on his erchie, pulling in a free wage? He certainly hasn't been helping look for a new manager at any rate 😂
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Have to agree with you Silver
Often felt the same way about McCoist
Always got the impression he felt he was one of the lads rather than the gaffer, was like a player with a suit on, and it was to his detriment
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