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Quite a menstrual reaction to me not rating Le Tiss, Cosmic.
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Control your comedown emotions ffs.
comment by Erik (U21750)
posted 5 minutes ago
He wasn’t showing any promise. Tcdoubledude poster a gif earlier on in the thread that sums up Salah at Chelsea. He was just so bad. He was weak, he kept losing the ball, he showed none of the goalscoring instinct he has shown at Liverpool. No one had any idea this was the player he could be which is why Chelsea’s mistake was taking him too early. He would have been sold if he’d joined Liverpool at the point where he’d joined Chelsea. The premier league just wasn’t the right environment for him to develop.
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Ridiculous post, Wahl.
There's a reason he was signed to begin with. But at just 22, he was consigned to the rubbish heap in less than 6 months.
Even more hilariously, his replacement cost more than double what he'd cost, got just 3 starts and was cast aside in the same amount of time.
I don’t know what to tell you, he was really bad. I don’t recall any Chelsea fan particularly interested in keeping him at the club when we loaned him out. Salah has pretty much come from nowhere and I’m not sure you can blame anyone at Chelsea for losing him since I don’t think anyone in the football world thought Salah would become such a great player
I do since he like so many of our players aren't given a run and managers kept playing old favourites who weren't performing. Seriously how can you say he was bad based on a couple of starts and 2 minutes here and there....
Because he was bad. A club like Chelsea can’t give more to Salah than they gave him. They signed him, gave him some first team opportunities without compromising their own objectives and he didn’t take the chance. Were Chelsea supposed to drop Willian h who was performing better on the off chance that Salah would show more than he’d shown in the chances he did have? That’s not how big clubs operate. Chelsea’s mistake was simply signing a player who they were in no position to develop properly without the intention of sending him on loan for at least a year. Chelsea should have waited a couple of years before signing him after he had developed a bit more. But that’s risky for Obvious reasons, but I don’t think Chelsea did salah wrong while he was at the club. They just signed him a couple of years too early.
We didn't give any of the players we bought for the wing/wide position a chance so please stop with the bs. Just like RLC he is probably gonna get moved on without ever getting a run in the team even if the "regulars" are playing bad. FFS it was easy to see the quality in Dr bryne and the decline of lampard, what do we do? Give them 5 minutes and deem them not good enough
We gave Salah chances. Mourinho gave Willian the same amount of chances at the start of that season when he wasn’t a regular and Willian took them and earned his place. That’s what you have to do at big clubs where there will be both experienced players ahead of you in the pecking order and more importantly there will always be competition. You can’t expect to play a lot and have less competition without establishing yourself first. If you aren’t an established player then you’ll have to make do with reduced opportunities and prove yourself when the time comes. Salah just did not do that and you will not convince me that we could have played him more. Mourinho played him plenty enough in his first 6 months after joining Chelsea. Didn’t show anything to suggest he deserved a bigger role in the squad.
De Bruyne was a unique case. I believe there were some off the field matters that also came into play here. There was definitely a different reason for why Mourinho suddenly stopped playing him.
I do since he like so many of our players aren't given a run and managers kept playing old favourites who weren't performing. Seriously how can you say he was bad based on a couple of starts and 2 minutes here and there....
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He wasn't bad, but he was extremely raw. He looked like your run of the mill pace merchant for us, no better than SWP. Don't blame Mourinho what so ever for preferring Willian at the time.
In hindsight we bought him too young and probably for the wrong reasons as we snatched him off Liverpool at the last minute. It's disappointing but I couldn't honesty say I thought we'd end up regretting it at the time.
There was probably a time we had all of Hazard, Mata, Willian, Oscar, De Bruyne, Schurrle and Salah together at Chelsea. Crazy.
Nah, KDB left before we signed Salah. Just two weeks or so off.
Although depending on when the contracts came into effect, there was a time when we had Torres, Eto'o & Drogba at the club. All washed up shells of their former selves, but still pretty insane.
comment by Erik (U21750)
posted 2 hours, 28 minutes ago
I don’t know what to tell you, he was really bad. I don’t recall any Chelsea fan particularly interested in keeping him at the club when we loaned him out. Salah has pretty much come from nowhere and I’m not sure you can blame anyone at Chelsea for losing him since I don’t think anyone in the football world thought Salah would become such a great player
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Not true at all. He was excellent at Basle and many clubs were chasing him, including Liverpool. He chose Chelsea and what happens at many clubs where Mourinho is manager young players don't get much of a chance to develop. If they aren't top class right away they are turfed out. He went and showed his quality over two loan spells, continued to develop and then got a move back to the PL where he developed further. You can't just sign a young player from a different country and expect him to be at his peak right away. Mourinho just doesn't have the patience for that. Same with De Bruyne and Lukaku.
I remember Salah destroying us a few times we faced Basel.
comment by TLLL (U4640)
posted 36 minutes ago
I remember Salah destroying us a few times we faced Basel.
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Yeah some people say it was only the Swiss league but not many were watching the Swiss league. It was the CL where he was excelling at a young age.
I am not talking about Salah BEFORE he joined Chelsea, I am talking about Salah WHILE HE WAS AT Chelsea. Before he joined Chelsea he was viewed as a talented player but after joining Chelsea all that hype went and he quickly became viewed by most as the Egyptian Shaun Wright-Phillips. I don’t understand why people are so keen to rewrite history, no Chelsea fan on ja606 really cared when Salah left Chelsea, no premier league fan rated Salah WHILE HE WAS AT CHELSEA. Before yes, there was hype, but WHILE HE WAS AT CHELSEA, no hype. Sorry for the caps, but it seems like if I don’t put it in caps, people won’t bother to read my comment properly and will argue a point I didn’t make.
So please don’t try and rewrite history and claim there was some subsection of the Chelsea fan base crying out for Salah to be given a chance. Because the reality is literally no one gave a furrrk. And don’t rewrite history and claim some of your opposition fans were looking at Salah at Chelsea and thinking that he deserved more or a chance. Because the reality is literally no one cared. People love rewriting history to take shots at Mourinho, but you can take shots at him over De Bruyne, but you cannot take shots at him over Salah. Simple as.
*some of you opposition fans
"I am not talking about Salah BEFORE he joined Chelsea, I am talking about Salah WHILE HE WAS AT Chelsea."
You mean the time when he made 19 appearances of which 9 were sub therefore not getting a chance to progress as a young player in a new league before being shipped out?
I remember that as well T L L L.Well said!
comment by There'sOnlyOneReds (U1721)
posted 57 minutes ago
"I am not talking about Salah BEFORE he joined Chelsea, I am talking about Salah WHILE HE WAS AT Chelsea."
You mean the time when he made 19 appearances of which 9 were sub therefore not getting a chance to progress as a young player in a new league before being shipped out?
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I remember Salah destroying us a few times we faced Basel.
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Funnily enough I reckon that was another factor that hurt his standing with us. We were going through a faze at the time of signing attacking players who always seemed to play well against us - Meireles, Remy, Ba, Willian, Torres obviously.... just one of many factors that from the outside made it seem like a lazy cheap buy for the f*** all of it, like Barkley.
comment by There'sOnlyOneReds (U1721)
posted 1 hour, 32 minutes ago
"I am not talking about Salah BEFORE he joined Chelsea, I am talking about Salah WHILE HE WAS AT Chelsea."
You mean the time when he made 19 appearances of which 9 were sub therefore not getting a chance to progress as a young player in a new league before being shipped out?
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19 appearances in a year for a young player to make an impression is plenty. Not Mourinho’s fault he didn’t do it. Chelsea are competing at too high a level at too high pressure to just give young players who aren’t performing chance after chance to shine. The club’s progress can’t suffer for the sake of a young player. It’s the players responsibility to make the most of the situation he finds himself in.
RLC now should be given a proper chance as Chelsea player like Chelsea did last season with Andreas Christensen in defence last season.
Lol wahl still getting taken to the cleaners.
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posted on 26/6/18
Quite a menstrual reaction to me not rating Le Tiss, Cosmic.
posted on 26/6/18
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posted on 26/6/18
Control your comedown emotions ffs.
posted on 26/6/18
comment by Erik (U21750)
posted 5 minutes ago
He wasn’t showing any promise. Tcdoubledude poster a gif earlier on in the thread that sums up Salah at Chelsea. He was just so bad. He was weak, he kept losing the ball, he showed none of the goalscoring instinct he has shown at Liverpool. No one had any idea this was the player he could be which is why Chelsea’s mistake was taking him too early. He would have been sold if he’d joined Liverpool at the point where he’d joined Chelsea. The premier league just wasn’t the right environment for him to develop.
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Ridiculous post, Wahl.
There's a reason he was signed to begin with. But at just 22, he was consigned to the rubbish heap in less than 6 months.
Even more hilariously, his replacement cost more than double what he'd cost, got just 3 starts and was cast aside in the same amount of time.
posted on 26/6/18
I don’t know what to tell you, he was really bad. I don’t recall any Chelsea fan particularly interested in keeping him at the club when we loaned him out. Salah has pretty much come from nowhere and I’m not sure you can blame anyone at Chelsea for losing him since I don’t think anyone in the football world thought Salah would become such a great player
posted on 26/6/18
I do since he like so many of our players aren't given a run and managers kept playing old favourites who weren't performing. Seriously how can you say he was bad based on a couple of starts and 2 minutes here and there....
posted on 26/6/18
Because he was bad. A club like Chelsea can’t give more to Salah than they gave him. They signed him, gave him some first team opportunities without compromising their own objectives and he didn’t take the chance. Were Chelsea supposed to drop Willian h who was performing better on the off chance that Salah would show more than he’d shown in the chances he did have? That’s not how big clubs operate. Chelsea’s mistake was simply signing a player who they were in no position to develop properly without the intention of sending him on loan for at least a year. Chelsea should have waited a couple of years before signing him after he had developed a bit more. But that’s risky for Obvious reasons, but I don’t think Chelsea did salah wrong while he was at the club. They just signed him a couple of years too early.
posted on 26/6/18
We didn't give any of the players we bought for the wing/wide position a chance so please stop with the bs. Just like RLC he is probably gonna get moved on without ever getting a run in the team even if the "regulars" are playing bad. FFS it was easy to see the quality in Dr bryne and the decline of lampard, what do we do? Give them 5 minutes and deem them not good enough
posted on 26/6/18
We gave Salah chances. Mourinho gave Willian the same amount of chances at the start of that season when he wasn’t a regular and Willian took them and earned his place. That’s what you have to do at big clubs where there will be both experienced players ahead of you in the pecking order and more importantly there will always be competition. You can’t expect to play a lot and have less competition without establishing yourself first. If you aren’t an established player then you’ll have to make do with reduced opportunities and prove yourself when the time comes. Salah just did not do that and you will not convince me that we could have played him more. Mourinho played him plenty enough in his first 6 months after joining Chelsea. Didn’t show anything to suggest he deserved a bigger role in the squad.
De Bruyne was a unique case. I believe there were some off the field matters that also came into play here. There was definitely a different reason for why Mourinho suddenly stopped playing him.
posted on 26/6/18
I do since he like so many of our players aren't given a run and managers kept playing old favourites who weren't performing. Seriously how can you say he was bad based on a couple of starts and 2 minutes here and there....
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He wasn't bad, but he was extremely raw. He looked like your run of the mill pace merchant for us, no better than SWP. Don't blame Mourinho what so ever for preferring Willian at the time.
In hindsight we bought him too young and probably for the wrong reasons as we snatched him off Liverpool at the last minute. It's disappointing but I couldn't honesty say I thought we'd end up regretting it at the time.
posted on 26/6/18
There was probably a time we had all of Hazard, Mata, Willian, Oscar, De Bruyne, Schurrle and Salah together at Chelsea. Crazy.
posted on 26/6/18
Nah, KDB left before we signed Salah. Just two weeks or so off.
Although depending on when the contracts came into effect, there was a time when we had Torres, Eto'o & Drogba at the club. All washed up shells of their former selves, but still pretty insane.
posted on 26/6/18
comment by Erik (U21750)
posted 2 hours, 28 minutes ago
I don’t know what to tell you, he was really bad. I don’t recall any Chelsea fan particularly interested in keeping him at the club when we loaned him out. Salah has pretty much come from nowhere and I’m not sure you can blame anyone at Chelsea for losing him since I don’t think anyone in the football world thought Salah would become such a great player
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Not true at all. He was excellent at Basle and many clubs were chasing him, including Liverpool. He chose Chelsea and what happens at many clubs where Mourinho is manager young players don't get much of a chance to develop. If they aren't top class right away they are turfed out. He went and showed his quality over two loan spells, continued to develop and then got a move back to the PL where he developed further. You can't just sign a young player from a different country and expect him to be at his peak right away. Mourinho just doesn't have the patience for that. Same with De Bruyne and Lukaku.
posted on 26/6/18
I remember Salah destroying us a few times we faced Basel.
posted on 26/6/18
comment by TLLL (U4640)
posted 36 minutes ago
I remember Salah destroying us a few times we faced Basel.
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Yeah some people say it was only the Swiss league but not many were watching the Swiss league. It was the CL where he was excelling at a young age.
posted on 26/6/18
I am not talking about Salah BEFORE he joined Chelsea, I am talking about Salah WHILE HE WAS AT Chelsea. Before he joined Chelsea he was viewed as a talented player but after joining Chelsea all that hype went and he quickly became viewed by most as the Egyptian Shaun Wright-Phillips. I don’t understand why people are so keen to rewrite history, no Chelsea fan on ja606 really cared when Salah left Chelsea, no premier league fan rated Salah WHILE HE WAS AT CHELSEA. Before yes, there was hype, but WHILE HE WAS AT CHELSEA, no hype. Sorry for the caps, but it seems like if I don’t put it in caps, people won’t bother to read my comment properly and will argue a point I didn’t make.
So please don’t try and rewrite history and claim there was some subsection of the Chelsea fan base crying out for Salah to be given a chance. Because the reality is literally no one gave a furrrk. And don’t rewrite history and claim some of your opposition fans were looking at Salah at Chelsea and thinking that he deserved more or a chance. Because the reality is literally no one cared. People love rewriting history to take shots at Mourinho, but you can take shots at him over De Bruyne, but you cannot take shots at him over Salah. Simple as.
posted on 26/6/18
*some of you opposition fans
posted on 26/6/18
"I am not talking about Salah BEFORE he joined Chelsea, I am talking about Salah WHILE HE WAS AT Chelsea."
You mean the time when he made 19 appearances of which 9 were sub therefore not getting a chance to progress as a young player in a new league before being shipped out?
posted on 26/6/18
I remember that as well T L L L.Well said!
posted on 26/6/18
comment by There'sOnlyOneReds (U1721)
posted 57 minutes ago
"I am not talking about Salah BEFORE he joined Chelsea, I am talking about Salah WHILE HE WAS AT Chelsea."
You mean the time when he made 19 appearances of which 9 were sub therefore not getting a chance to progress as a young player in a new league before being shipped out?
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posted on 26/6/18
I remember Salah destroying us a few times we faced Basel.
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Funnily enough I reckon that was another factor that hurt his standing with us. We were going through a faze at the time of signing attacking players who always seemed to play well against us - Meireles, Remy, Ba, Willian, Torres obviously.... just one of many factors that from the outside made it seem like a lazy cheap buy for the f*** all of it, like Barkley.
posted on 26/6/18
comment by There'sOnlyOneReds (U1721)
posted 1 hour, 32 minutes ago
"I am not talking about Salah BEFORE he joined Chelsea, I am talking about Salah WHILE HE WAS AT Chelsea."
You mean the time when he made 19 appearances of which 9 were sub therefore not getting a chance to progress as a young player in a new league before being shipped out?
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19 appearances in a year for a young player to make an impression is plenty. Not Mourinho’s fault he didn’t do it. Chelsea are competing at too high a level at too high pressure to just give young players who aren’t performing chance after chance to shine. The club’s progress can’t suffer for the sake of a young player. It’s the players responsibility to make the most of the situation he finds himself in.
posted on 26/6/18
RLC now should be given a proper chance as Chelsea player like Chelsea did last season with Andreas Christensen in defence last season.
posted on 27/6/18
Lol wahl still getting taken to the cleaners.
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