Still, the rest of my comment stands. Even if she did say that at the time you have to consider what's going on around her.

I will say I disagree with your take but it's certainly not the worst thing you've come out with on this forum.

I don't think the age gap is as relevant as the power dynamic.

Funnily enough, I did later get involved with a 19 year old girl who I enjoyed the best snogs with I've had since I was about 23, and that time I had big moral reservations about it.

By coincidence she also had an older sister (actually cousin) who was fine with it (albeit after some initial scepticism). I talked to a couple of older girls I knew there who said it was fine don't even think about it if you're enjoying yourselves, and so decided to crack on with it. As it happens some French barman snuck in while I was thinking it over and got together with her so I never slept with her anyway and she dumped me haha.

I'm not ashamed and neither incident defines who I am or makes me a bad person.

comment by Bãles left boot (U22081)
posted 23 seconds ago
I don't think the age gap is as relevant as the power dynamic.
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OK.

Which is often implicit in the age gap, but can also be explained by social or economic status.

On one hand you have one of the most powerful people in the world, on the other you have an extremely vulnerable teenager. Whether you can prove a law has been broken or that she immediately upset by what happened, it's definitely a messed up situation.

comment by Bãles left boot (U22081)
posted 24 seconds ago
Which is often implicit in the age gap, but can also be explained by social or economic status.
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I didn't pay either of them.

Neither of them were particularly concerned about financial matters.

The sames true,about I think all the girls I saw the most of there.

The one I saw the most (she was 31) did have big money troubles which almost certainly got worse when she was seeing me, aside gave her virtually no help at all. I don't think she'd take our relationship out of her life though.

I was talking about the Prince. Funny, that. At least we got to why you're taking this view on the case pretty quick.

comment by Bãles left boot (U22081)
posted 3 minutes ago
On one hand you have one of the most powerful people in the world, on the other you have an extremely vulnerable teenager. Whether you can prove a law has been broken or that she immediately upset by what happened, it's definitely a messed up situation.
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Oh I see.

Yes, fair point. As I say I don't actually feel that strongly about it, it wasjust something I got drawn into.

I do personally feel though that her lawyershave probably fkced her head up more than Andrew did, but I could be wrong.

comment by Bãles left boot (U22081)
posted 1 minute ago
I was talking about the Prince. Funny, that. At least we got to why you're taking this view on the case pretty quick.
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I don't know if the 2 things are connected or not.

I can't even think atm tbh and barely even know what we're talking about.

Anyway, thanks for talking it over

It's naive in the extreme to think that a teenager in Cambodia isn't aware of your wealth and status and wouldn't act differently around you than she would a local for reasons.. Anyway.

Fair enough. I'm not that bothered either. It's pretty obvious to me Andrew's a dirty perv that had a long relationship with Maxwell and co. Whether Guiffre's case is watertight or not he deserves his day in court

Nah, neither of them were in it for the money I can tell you that 100 percent.

Ok. What would you say would be the difference in how they treated you and local boys? What would be the difference if you'd attempted a similar relationship with a girl in the UK?

Money

Not the money

There never was money and it was never either of their intention.

Some of those girls it's all about the money some it isn't.

I can only give you my word for that.

Ok I believe you. Let's say they just want to be with an exotic English man. That's cool. What's in it for you?

comment by Bãles left boot (U22081)
posted 49 seconds ago
Ok. What would you say would be the difference in how they treated you and local boys? What would be the difference if you'd attempted a similar relationship with a girl in the UK?
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Imnot going to get into a debate or even give consideration to what it isthat you've asked.

I know that what I have said is true.

So you're saying there's no difference or you just don't want to admit there is and what it means?

comment by Bãles left boot (U22081)
posted 17 seconds ago
Ok I believe you. Let's say they just want to be with an exotic English man. That's cool. What's in it for you?
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Thanks on the firstpart

What's in it for me ?? It was good fun ?

comment by Bãles left boot (U22081)
posted 35 seconds ago
So you're saying there's no difference or you just don't want to admit there is and what it means?
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I haven't even read what you've asked, because I know that there's no need for me to, because I know what you're suggesting and what you believe, and I understand that and dont have a problem with it,but I know you're wrong.

I don't need toexamine it because I know what the answer is.

I think you're deluding yourself as to what's really going on there but I don't care enough to rock the cart. So I'll take your word that I'm wrong. Actually, I hope I am. Cos otherwise it's really fuct.

It's some time ago now anyway, but I know what was what with who, and if agirl wanted money I was not interested. I know you can think well they knew that, that's why you see it like you do, but i am 100% you'd be wrong.

Maybe you forget that I used to know someone that was into s3x tourism. He was very honest with me before he left to live in Thailand. Dirty rotter.

Obviously you're not the same person but you're not kidding me on.

I'm not kidding you on I know.

I don't agree that I was a sxe tourist. That one is more marginal, but I think it would be an unfair description.