In four transfer windows the owners have got away with just a 12.7m net spend. Lets not forget in this time we have benefitted from:
- Record TV/Radio deal
- Record shirt sponsorhip deal
- Record kit deal
- Ticket prices to Anfield increased 7%
Transfers In: Luis Suarez (£22.8m), Andy Carroll (£35m), Jordan Henderson (£16m), Charlie Adam (£7m), Doni (£0m), Stewart Downing (£20m), Jose Enrique (£6m), Sebastian Coates (£7m), Craig Bellamy (£0m), Fabio Borini (£10m), Joe Allen (15m), Ossama Assaidi (2.4m), Yesil (1m)
Total of £142.2m
Transfers Out: Ryan Babel (£5.8m), Fernando Torres (£50m), Paul Konchesky (£1.7m), Milan Jovanovic (£0m), Nabil El Zhar (£0m), Sotirious Kyrgiakos (£0m), Emiliano Insua (£3m), Christian Poulsen (£0m), David Ngog (£4m), Phillip Degen (£0m), Raul Meireles (£12m), Chris Mavingwa (£1m), Daniel Ayala (£800k), Tom Ince (£250k), Dirk Kuyt (£1m), Fabio Aurelio (£0m), Maxi Rodriquez (£0m), David Amoo (£0m), Stephen Darby (£0), Alberto Aqualani (£5.5m), Charlie Adam (5m), Nathan Ecclestone (250k)
Total of £91.4m
£142.2m - £91.4m = £50.8m
Net spend in 4 transfer windows: £12.7m
12.7m Net spend
posted on 1/9/12
I think, taking the figures as OP posted, that 2 years ago if you said we would have owners that would wipe out our debt plus invest a net 50M on players the next two years we would have been overjoyed (granted, if the net investment in players would have been 100M we would have been more impressed). My thoughts are two fold:
1) A lot of the angst is not the net spend itself, but we did not get a lot of value on the net spend of 50M--some of this can be laid at owners feet for approving spend on these player and/or having people in charge who thought the players were worth the spend.
2)The owners are counting on UEFA's FFP to be enforced rigourously--they see that only teams with large revenues streams will be able to compete; and our comercial deals likely have us in top 10 in Europe (top 5 in BPL) even without champs leauge money, so if we live within our means and spend wisely, it is only a matter of time until we are in Champs leauge. The two keys being spending wisely and FFP being enforced.
All in all, I feel we're much better off than two years ago--but I would have hoped we'd be even better than we are currently.
posted on 1/9/12
And it doesn't matter, take Adam as an example. He was 12 months into a 4 year deal, he didn't ask to leave but we excepted a fee for him. We would hav also had to pay him something to compensate him for us effectively cancelling his contract!
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What?
Do you understand contracts?
We don't have to pay him anything more. As Stoke payed us for his contract. We valued that little bit of paper at £4M. And Stoke gave us that.
You know them contracts aren't just for the player.
And not to mention the only reason there is money given when you terminate a contract is that person then becomes unemployed with no income. So considering they had - in Adam's case - 4 years of guaranteed work, we would have to pay him for the loss of earnings over that period of time as they may not be able to find another job.
But considering all that happened was he moved clubs with mutual agreement, there is no money we need to give. Even if he's on a lower wage, as it was him and his agent who agreed to the terms. Although I think they can ask for that money to be given to them. Not sure though.
posted on 1/9/12
You are wrong King Luis, the player wanted to move back home and we facilitated it for him and got 5.5mil for it, we didn't have to compensate him for anything.
posted on 1/9/12
King luis probably means that you had to pay adam his loyalty bonus since he was sold off without handing in a transfer request
posted on 2/9/12
The glaring ommission from the stats is AC in the outs. He clearly has no future at the club while BR is around. So the best we can hope for is the 18 million mentioned in the press maybe less if we repeat the Aqua fiasco. Either way the net spend stats will take a hammering
posted on 2/9/12
Factor in the massive wage bill reduction and good work improving revenue streams, then the question is how much in real terms have they actually invested in the squad.
SFA?
posted on 2/9/12
The owners have invested a lot but this window had to pay for Dalglish's mistakes. Considering we were the eighth best team, our spending had to come down to that. A good season, with progress, will see our spending come up again.
posted on 2/9/12
I don't see how finishing anything between 4th and 8th will effect the amount we have to spend. The finishing position will make little difference
I would like to think we can give players and managers more than one season to prove whether they will be a success of a failure at a club.
The clarion call is for patience, which very sensible, but the owners through their actions have showed that they themselves lack it.
posted on 2/9/12
Well considering forth gets you into the Champions League, giving you wealth and shows progress it is a massive difference. Fifth and sixth even show progress towards that and could justify massive spending to reach it. Eighth shows despite the spending we were nowhere near it and thus had to change a manager and rectify those mistakes the following season.
If progress is shown towards the goal, then our spending will come in line with that progress.
posted on 2/9/12
Sorry, that was a typo that should have read 5th.
We spent £30m net under Kenny.
This is not massive spending in my opinion, considering where the team was when he took over, especially with the money now coming into the club via increased revenue streams. Yes, we overpaid for players, but FSG have to take their share of the blame on that one as they signed the cheques, now they have once again done a u-turn and are preaching patience and prudency.
FSG wanted a guaranteed CL position under Kenny, which was laughable and shows a distinct lack of 'patience'