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Mike Tyson

Where do you rank Tyson among the all time greats in the heavyweight division.

I think I'd have him top 10, but it's hard to put him higher looking at his record.

He was unfortunate to have his best years taken from him, I honestly believe he could have retired unbeaten had he not gone off the rails, fired Rooney etc.

posted on 10/7/13

Shame he went down the wrong path, people do forget and under rate Tyson badly though, in his prime he would have beaten anyone the guy was an absolute animal

posted on 11/7/13

What's mad about Tyson is his first 15 fights are only about 15 mins in total. That's some record even if he was fighting nobody's.

After cus d'amato died he began to slowly fall apart and lost the discipline he showed under cus in the ring. He didn't move his head as much, let his temper rule his head and became very unpredictable in what he might do in the ring.

All of this sullied his record and he lost to Douglas in Japan and because of this it's hard to place him up with the very best in the division.

Had cus not died and had say another decade with Tyson he could have been a great of the division, when he moved his head and feet so quickly coupled with the ferocious power he was a very dangerous fighter. For me a young Tyson would beat anybody today but may have found it harder to get inside wlad or vitalis long jab, he'd ko haye IMO but it would have been a very interesting fight but Tyson would have been too strong for haye.

posted on 11/7/13

Tyson when 22 years old would destroy anybody around today.

posted on 11/7/13

After cus d'amato died he began to slowly fall apart and lost the discipline he showed under cus in the ring. He didn't move his head as much, let his temper rule his head and became very unpredictable in what he might do in the ring.

A myth. Cus Tomato wasnt even alive when Tyson became champion. Tyson didnt even want to get in the ring with a old Foreman. He was s h!t scared of Big George. Also ducked Lewis in 96

posted on 11/7/13

Also "Prime" Tyson would get his backside whooped by the following.

Prime Ali
Prime Foreman
Prime Lewis
Prime Liston

The likes of Louis, Frazier, Dempsey and Marciano would all have a shot at beating him

posted on 11/7/13

Cus was one of the causes for Tyson's ill discipline.
Tyson would break rules cause trouble in class and even sexually molest Teddy Atlas's 12 year old niece.

Cus knew about this but let Tyson get away with it because Tyson was his last shot at of having another heavyweight world champion.

Tyson was also out mugging and robbing when Cus was there.

posted on 11/7/13

Some casual fans think boxing is like football.

If some team is smashing a championship sides 10-0 and another team is just winning 2 or 3-0 It doesn't mean the side that was winning 10-0 would beat the side winning 3-0.

Styles make fights and you can look great against lesser opponents but step up a level or two and all those tricks don't work.

posted on 11/7/13

Robyn Givens, Desiree Washington and then firing Rooney is what finished Tyson.

Once Rooney left he stopped using combinations, his movement was poor and he just kept looking for one monster punch to close the show.

As a kid he was a superb boxer.

He was just too weak mentally.

posted on 11/7/13

A myth. Cus Tomato wasnt even alive when Tyson became champion. Tyson didnt even want to get in the ring with a old Foreman. He was s h!t scared of Big George. Also ducked Lewis in 96



I know he wasn't respected but tyson has said loosing cus was a massive blow to him as a person as cus took him into his home and worked so closely with him every day.

I know there are plenty of other factors but cus was a huge influence on Tyson who's said it himself

posted on 11/7/13

Cus Tomato

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