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Back to winning ways.

A welcome three points against Birmingham City. I'm not sure Bielsa is playing to our strengths yet with his tactics and/or team selection.

Preston North End presents another difficult challenge but a chance to collect three more much needed points. Despite the inconsistency and poor returns against the likes of Charlton and Millwall we are second in the table.

Bamford to start for me, his all-round game is enough to maintain his place but I'd like to see either Nketiah or Roberts start alongside him. Not sure Bielsa is ever going to go down that route......

I'm going for a clean sheet with Leeds United grabbing a couple of goals.

MOT

posted on 22/10/19

comment by Jonty (U4614)
posted 2 hours,

Beat derby beat forest there’s 4 points right there or maybe you think we only deserved draws. Add in Swansea and Millwall results and 6 points clear is perfectly reasonable, for reasonable folk that is.
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...and if my mother had balls she’d be my father....

....which bit don’t you understand that most reasonable folk recognise that their team won’t always win when they deserve to, wont always score when then should, won’t always prevent a goal when they should....it’s called football.

And yeah, we’re spending lots on a coach who’s transformed our football, and yes we are spending more money than we’ve spent in years on players (after we demanded AR put his hand in his pocket)... so it’s a shock that we’re not winning 6-0 every week ain’t it?Spending dosh always guarantees success for every team normally doesn’t it? Utter bull.

Try and make a more adult argument. On this forum you’re talking to people who’ve been around a while, most of whom recognise that you talk out of your posterior most times. Stick to tennis mate.


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comment by Jonty (U4614)

posted on 22/10/19

Just because you’re older than most, doesn’t mean you know more than most as is indicated here, you just seem to be better than most at joining decent threads and throwing a bit of bitterness in.

No one is claiming we should win every game, score e every goal, if I was to be doing that I’d talk about stoke in cup, charlton etc etc

Part of the point of this thread is that Bielsa is not making the most out of the squad, pretty much every man and his dog could see we should have easily beaten derby for example and also of course accepts that that’s “Football”.

Most people can see we have our most expensive striker in years and another striker scoring goals for fun whom the club made big song and dance about efforts made to sign him, yet with both of these and 15 mill values Costa we are struggling to score goals.

The pressing style becomes ineffective and Bielsa admits himself that he gets decisions wrong, yet you seem to fail to accept that and fail to understand that people might want to discuss it without slinging insults at each other.

posted on 22/10/19

comment by Jonty (U4614)
posted 3 hours, 15 minutes ago

“you just seem to be better than most at joining decent threads and throwing a bit of bitterness in.”
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Haha...the irony ! Take a good look in the mirror sunshine.

“No one is claiming we should win every game, score e every goal, etc”
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Er....yes you are. To quote “if he was getting it right we’d be 6 points clear” so you’re saying we SHOULD have won every game (which I agree with), but rather than accept that that’s football, you say that it must be all Bielsa fault “not getting it right”. . Don’t you read what you say?

“people might want to discuss it without slinging insults at each other”
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said the person who said “what don’t you understand”...
Please don’t ever try to talk down to me. I will respond appropriately
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comment by Jonty (U4614)

posted on 22/10/19

salonika, you come on the thread slinging insults, then complain when people point that out to you.

Pointless engaging with you any further.

posted on 22/10/19

comment by Jonty (U4614)
posted 21 minutes ago
salonika, you come on the thread slinging insults, then complain when people point that out to you.

Pointless engaging with you any further.
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Engage or not. Your choice. But let's be clear

My first comment was
“So 6 point clear of all other teams in the league after 12 matches.... thats your measure of getting it right?.... so anything other than that is failure??
Wow.. just wow...
Lots of managers getting it wrong then....in fact probably every manager there’s ever been in the history of the football league?

No insults. No snide comments. Just an opinion that I fundamentally disagreed with your assessment.

To which your response was ..

“which bit of that do you find so hard to understand?”

If you would allow people to disagree with you and avoid making your usual condescending remarks, you might find people might actually listen to what you’ve got to say.

posted on 22/10/19

Oh and by the way Stevie, apologies for detracting from your article, which is fair. Would be nice for people to debate it without demeaning comments from others.

comment by Jonty (U4614)

posted on 22/10/19

Except that wasn't your first comment, you omitted the fact that you threw an insult in at the end and are now trying to pretend you didn't, its pathetic.

comment by Jonty (U4614)

posted on 22/10/19

comment by salonika73 (U4688)
posted 12 hours, 54 minutes ago
comment by Jonty (U4614)
posted 3 hours, 6 minutes ago
If he was getting things right we’d be 6 points clear.
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So 6 point clear of all other teams in the league after 12 matches.... thats your measure of getting it right?.... so anything other than that is failure??

Wow.. just wow...

Lots of managers getting it wrong then....in fact probably every manager there’s ever been in the history of the football league?

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Oh and by the way Stevie, apologies for detracting from your article, which is fair. Would be nice for people to debate it without demeaning comments from others.
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Utter hypocrite.

posted on 22/10/19

comment by salonika73 (U4688)
posted 19 minutes ago
Oh and by the way Stevie, apologies for detracting from your article, which is fair. Would be nice for people to debate it without demeaning comments from others.
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I don’t think that there is a black & white answer to most of what’s discussed here. Healthy debate is good.

posted on 22/10/19

comment by Jonty (U4614)
posted 1 hour, 35 minutes ago
Except that wasn't your first comment, you omitted the fact that you threw an insult in at the end and are now trying to pretend you didn't, its pathetic.
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LOL 😂
A doughnut ain’t an insult.... it’s an accurate description
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