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Ukraine

Sorry it's not footie, but it's so important.

We are in a dilemma at the moment moment I think.

If we do nothing militarily Russia will overpower Ukraine, install their own government and rule the country. It will be assimilated into Russia as it was before.

If we do intervene (we the West) we risk Putin authorising tactical nuclear weapons.

So what are we to do? As is so often the case I don't know.

My gut reaction is he has to be stopped, and it could be the correct solution. If we don't it may be Moldava next, then the three Baltic countries. Or it may start WW3.
Is Putin open to negotiations.

It seems to me that we are at an important crossroad in Western Europe.
Do we want libéral democracies to survive, and what are we prepared to risk.

So over to the brains trust. And that's not sarcasm.

posted on 14/3/22

comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 1 hour, 42 minutes ago
comment by RB&W - What is it now, Ralf? (U21434)
posted 1 hour, 27 minutes ago
I was called angry on this thread for having an opinion that wasn't welcomed. I thought it was a very sensible comment, too.

And I really wasn't angry.
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It came across as angry. Read it again
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It was one of the most sensible comments on this thread. If you really think the way to deal with this is to call Putins bluff in starting WW3, then fill your boots.

What happens if you are wrong?

comment by 4zA (U22472)

posted on 14/3/22

Oh
Is Rude Van Nist the famus Stretty?

posted on 14/3/22

comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 1 hour, 53 minutes ago
comment by RB&W - What is it now, Ralf? (U21434)
posted 1 hour, 27 minutes ago
I was called angry on this thread for having an opinion that wasn't welcomed. I thought it was a very sensible comment, too.

And I really wasn't angry.
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It came across as angry. Read it again
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🤬🤬🤬🤬😳

posted on 14/3/22

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posted on 14/3/22

comment by son of quebec (U8127)
posted 4 hours, 17 minutes ago
comment by Rude Van Nist (U22799)
posted 2 hours, 45 minutes ago
He is not going to conquer Europe.

I said we should get involved in some military capacity if a war reaches our shore, not before.

What happens in the rest of Europe, is yet again, and this is important so pay attention, not our business.

But he knows full well he couldn't take on the rest of europe.

So that will never happen.
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So you'll be happy when US takes the same stance?
"Screw the Limeys. We're sick of saving their sorry asses."
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The United States have never saved us and secondly all they've ever done of late is bring us into their nonsense conflicts.

The special relationship really is not special at all.

posted on 15/3/22

comment by HB Fash (U21935)
posted 21 hours, 19 minutes ago
comment by Rude Van Nist (U22799)
posted 3 minutes ago
Ah yes, and thats worked out so well for us previously hasnt it.

Why is it always the Uk.
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It isn’t, you just think it is.

posted on 15/3/22

comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by HB Fash (U21935)
posted 21 hours, 19 minutes ago
comment by Rude Van Nist (U22799)
posted 3 minutes ago
Ah yes, and thats worked out so well for us previously hasnt it.

Why is it always the Uk.
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It isn’t, you just think it is.
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Yes it is.

posted on 15/3/22

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2022/mar/13/putin-has-already-deployed-a-chemical-weapon-in-salisbury

posted on 15/3/22

comment by Rude Van Nist (U22799)
posted 46 minutes ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by HB Fash (U21935)
posted 21 hours, 19 minutes ago
comment by Rude Van Nist (U22799)
posted 3 minutes ago
Ah yes, and thats worked out so well for us previously hasnt it.

Why is it always the Uk.
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It isn’t, you just think it is.
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Yes it is.
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So we do nothing? Thought we were “Global Britain” these days?


posted on 15/3/22

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/mar/15/britons-support-ukrainian-refugees-homes

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