According to reports overnight, we’re introducing a salary cap:
“Erik ten Hag and Richard Arnold have introduced a new £200k/pw salary cap at United.
It ensures no player is paid significantly more than a team-mate, cutting out a jealousy culture.
David de Gea will be the first impacted (£150k+ reduction), as per @MailSport." (A few other sources also running the story this morning).
Current #mufc salaries over £200k/pw:
🇪🇸 David de Gea - £375k
🏴 Jadon Sancho - £350k
🇫🇷 Raphael Varane - £340k
🇧🇷 Casemiro - £300k
🇫🇷 Anthony Martial - £250k
🇵🇹 Bruno Fernandes - £240k
First things first, could there be any truth to this? It certainly fits with recent comments by ETH:
"Most purchases have been average - and at Man Utd average is NOT good enough. United's shirt weighs heavily. Only real personalities, who can perform under great pressure, can play here."
There are pros and cons to this. Obvious con is that we won’t be signing the very top players (e.g Mbappe’s of this world) for £200k p/w
However, there are definitely pros. We’d cease to be a retirement holiday for has beens looking for a final pay cut. We’d also be more likely to attract players who actually want to play football and win trophies - a salary cap, with performance-based incentives would reinstate a competitive dressing room, whilst also eliminating the jealousy that comes with significant wage disparities.
Any other pros/cons? Would this be a positive or negative move by the club?
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posted on 8/1/23
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 1 hour, 11 minutes ago
I'm not a fan of salary caps.
It will prevent some top players joining.
Once you are on it, if you are young and improving you will look elsewhere.
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Nor am I. It would be a disaster for us if it’s true.
posted on 8/1/23
200k flat rate cap could work if you’re offering big bonuses for these top players. Incentivise them to play well
posted on 8/1/23
‘Be careful, you’ll be branded a Tory.’
If they’re heartless pr-cks like yourself they might.
posted on 8/1/23
I'm not against a cap by any means. One of the issues we've faced down the years is giving players large weekly salaries and long contracts when they haven't earned them, and then finding it hard to shift those players later on down the road. Additionally, if your poorer players are on bumper wages then it stands to reason that your best ones will be on astronomical ones, leading to an ever inflating wage bill and a culture where playing for the club is seen as more of a payday than a sporting ambition.
Regardless of how it is achieved, there's no doubt that we're long overdue a major overhaul and reset in the culture and practices around recruitment, contracts, wages etc...
posted on 8/1/23
Whilst I am against caps as per my post above, we should be trying to keep the wage bill down as per every other company.
But if we want a young Rooney for example, surely we have to offer at least what other clubs are offering?
posted on 8/1/23
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 3 minutes ago
Whilst I am against caps as per my post above, we should be trying to keep the wage bill down as per every other company.
But if we want a young Rooney for example, surely we have to offer at least what other clubs are offering?
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Yeah that's pretty much what I've been saying. There's a difference between overpaying average performers as we have been doing and paying big wages to elite talent.
It should be possible to bring wages down to realistic levels for players who haven't proven themselves to justify said wages without bringing in an arbitrary cap that would see us blown out of the water for top talents.
posted on 8/1/23
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 2 hours, 40 minutes ago
comment by Freds a Red (U22942)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 26 minutes ago
I would assume the £200k a week would be basic salary only, and a player can earn a lot from performance based bonuses.
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That's the case already though. Unless people think we are paying DDG, VArane and Casemiro their reportes wage AND bonuses on top.
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They’ll still have appearance, clean sheet, goals, team performance bonuses.
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Not every player would have these.
For example. DDG plays almost every game where as Garnacho or another youngster breaking through plays less, so would want that bonus.
posted on 8/1/23
comment by merrysupersteve (relaxed about the situation) (U1132)
posted 1 hour, 15 minutes ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 3 minutes ago
Whilst I am against caps as per my post above, we should be trying to keep the wage bill down as per every other company.
But if we want a young Rooney for example, surely we have to offer at least what other clubs are offering?
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Yeah that's pretty much what I've been saying. There's a difference between overpaying average performers as we have been doing and paying big wages to elite talent.
It should be possible to bring wages down to realistic levels for players who haven't proven themselves to justify said wages without bringing in an arbitrary cap that would see us blown out of the water for top talents.
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I think we are already better at this than people think.
We were the first club to instil the 25% pay cut for failing to qualify for the Champs League, and 1 of the first to subsidise the basic package with image rights earnings.
The issue with United seems to be the basic for most players is excessive, and is probably a hangover from when we were still succesful on the pitch.
posted on 8/1/23
Financially, this is an incredibly sensible idea, however, practically I can see this being scrapped if we are to 'sustain' success.
I've watched football long enough to know the best players will want the highest salaries and if we cannot offer that, they will move on.
This happened at Arsenal when they had their pay structure and as Arsene Wenger correctly predicted, players will happily run down their contracts in today's climate. This in return means, their new team will pay them a handsome signing fee bonus and extraordinary salary as they never spent a transfer fee.
posted on 8/1/23
A salary cap needs to be introduced across all Euro clubs.