While I agree with this in theory and believe salaries should be capped in football in general I’m sure how this would work for us.
Do we say to the likes of Casemiro and Varane they are getting a pay cut or is it for new contracts or signings?
Hard to see it working now.
Something a little similar didn't work well for us (Arsenal). It meant we struggled to keep hold of top talent which sadly command absolutely bonkers wages yet because the lesser players were getting more than they'd receive elsewhere you couldn't even give them away.
It's always tricky but I think perhaps as much as anything for United getting rid of anyone over 300k or getting them to negotiate below or at 200k is a good idea as a sort of reset within the club.
If no one is on such mental wages at the club then egotistical players can't demand parity with it which I'm sure has been an issue
Down tools lads,down tools !
comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 4 minutes ago
While I agree with this in theory and believe salaries should be capped in football in general I’m sure how this would work for us.
Do we say to the likes of Casemiro and Varane they are getting a pay cut or is it for new contracts or signings?
Hard to see it working now.
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*not sure
comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 5 minutes ago
While I agree with this in theory and believe salaries should be capped in football in general I’m sure how this would work for us.
Do we say to the likes of Casemiro and Varane they are getting a pay cut or is it for new contracts or signings?
Hard to see it working now.
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From what I’ve gathered, existing contracts (e.g De Gea) will only be affected at the time of renewal. Pay cut + incentives or off with you.
comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 5 minutes ago
While I agree with this in theory and believe salaries should be capped in football in general I’m sure how this would work for us.
Do we say to the likes of Casemiro and Varane they are getting a pay cut or is it for new contracts or signings?
Hard to see it working now.
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I don't know any specifics of individual contracts but generally speaking the existing contracts would have to be honoured, unless the players agree to have them cancelled and a new one created.
So I would assume this would only apply to new contracts signed from this point.
comment by Greta Thunberg, the Communist mouthpiece 👅 (U9335)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 5 minutes ago
While I agree with this in theory and believe salaries should be capped in football in general I’m sure how this would work for us.
Do we say to the likes of Casemiro and Varane they are getting a pay cut or is it for new contracts or signings?
Hard to see it working now.
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From what I’ve gathered, existing contracts (e.g De Gea) will only be affected at the time of renewal. Pay cut + incentives or off with you.
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This has to be the way forward. It should mean De Gea will be affected as he's up for renewal, but Casemiro won't be as he's just signed and was always likely to see through his contract and then leave (probably for a Brazilian club) due to his age.
comment by Two Balls, One Saka (U19684)
posted 5 minutes ago
Something a little similar didn't work well for us (Arsenal). It meant we struggled to keep hold of top talent which sadly command absolutely bonkers wages yet because the lesser players were getting more than they'd receive elsewhere you couldn't even give them away.
It's always tricky but I think perhaps as much as anything for United getting rid of anyone over 300k or getting them to negotiate below or at 200k is a good idea as a sort of reset within the club.
If no one is on such mental wages at the club then egotistical players can't demand parity with it which I'm sure has been an issue
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Apparently, only 3 players at City earn above £200k, so it’s certainly doable to compete, I’d the scouts do their job well and the manager instills the right attitude within the dressing room.
Liverpool won the lot whilst paying Mane a packet of crisps a week.
But yes, there’s the risk that you don’t keep exciting players when it comes to renewal, or struggle to hold on to emerging stars.
However, I believe the net effect would be positive, at least as a bit of a reset for the wage structure within the club.
comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 13 seconds ago
comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 4 minutes ago
While I agree with this in theory and believe salaries should be capped in football in general I’m sure how this would work for us.
Do we say to the likes of Casemiro and Varane they are getting a pay cut or is it for new contracts or signings?
Hard to see it working now.
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*not sure
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Obviously United can't just rewrite the contracts because they feel like it's a good idea. The players would need to agree & sign on, some might if they're offered longer deals, others will see out the higher pay before they're willing to negotiate.
But over time the massive contracts are something that can be phased out as players leave or are sold or (unlikely) accept a new contract for lower pay
Bold to strike out and do this unilaterally, but in the petro league I’m not sure how successful a strategy it will be.
comment by Greta Thunberg, the Communist mouthpiece 👅 (U9335)
posted 11 seconds ago
comment by Two Balls, One Saka (U19684)
posted 5 minutes ago
Something a little similar didn't work well for us (Arsenal). It meant we struggled to keep hold of top talent which sadly command absolutely bonkers wages yet because the lesser players were getting more than they'd receive elsewhere you couldn't even give them away.
It's always tricky but I think perhaps as much as anything for United getting rid of anyone over 300k or getting them to negotiate below or at 200k is a good idea as a sort of reset within the club.
If no one is on such mental wages at the club then egotistical players can't demand parity with it which I'm sure has been an issue
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Apparently, only 3 players at City earn above £200k, so it’s certainly doable to compete, I’d the scouts do their job well and the manager instills the right attitude within the dressing room.
Liverpool won the lot whilst paying Mane a packet of crisps a week.
But yes, there’s the risk that you don’t keep exciting players when it comes to renewal, or struggle to hold on to emerging stars.
However, I believe the net effect would be positive, at least as a bit of a reset for the wage structure within the club.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yeah true, 200k is still massive. Not many clubs are able to offer that so it's different to the Arsenal Wenger years with our players
Uproar on Twitter and from people like Neville the first signing we lose out to Newcastle or Chelsea on due to wage demands.
comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 15 minutes ago
While I agree with this in theory and believe salaries should be capped in football in general I’m sure how this would work for us.
Do we say to the likes of Casemiro and Varane they are getting a pay cut or is it for new contracts or signings?
Hard to see it working now.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Would imagine it’s new contracts. They’re already in legally binding contracts and it says De Gea will be the first as he’s negotiating a new contract.
Would think anyway!
comment by FFS Mike. (U1170)
posted 1 minute ago
Uproar on Twitter and from people like Neville the first signing we lose out to Newcastle or Chelsea on due to wage demands.
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Neville is a fan. He’s hasn’t the first idea how to run/manage a successful football club at the top level. Paying the highest salaries has not proven successful for us for ten years, so hopefully most fans can appreciate that fact if/when we are occasionally pipped by Newcastle/City.
Sounds nice but surely it just needs to be relative to what our club can actually afford and we wouldn’t really know that until we get new owners. Would be a bit naive if we get a new owner who has large funds to pay well without putting pressure on the club but we limit our wage bill and limit our options.
City have the draw of Pep, and almost guarantee trophies.
Iv no doubt the club are looking to reduce the wage bill. We knew a while ago that we were offering DDG a new, long term deal on reduced terms, but the £200k per week seems like guess work to suggest they have inside information.
Apparently, only 3 players at City earn above £200k
———
I’m sure that’s what City are telling everyone. But what about the rest paid through shell accounts?
Nice idea but surely those guys wouldn’t accept wage cuts.
Salary cap as a proportion of revenue is coming in this summer so I guess it’s something more teams will need to think about going forward. Easier for teams like City that overinflate their revenue.
Liverpool, City, Chelsea, Arsenal, even Newcastle would become as appealing if not more, should United implement such a cap.
comment by manutd1982 (U6633)
posted 1 minute ago
Sounds nice but surely it just needs to be relative to what our club can actually afford and we wouldn’t really know that until we get new owners. Would be a bit naive if we get a new owner who has large funds to pay well without putting pressure on the club but we limit our wage bill and limit our options.
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The thing is, we can afford more than most and players/agents know that and have taken advantage of it for many years.
We’d still be very competitive at £200k per week, but I think having a cap also helps us at the lower end. We’re not paying Jess Lingard types £100k a week of our key players can only get £200k.
Another thing I hope to see corrected is our approach to rewarding youngsters with big contracts too soon.
comment by Freds a Red (U22942)
posted 16 seconds ago
Liverpool, City, Chelsea, Arsenal, even Newcastle would become as appealing if not more, should United implement such a cap.
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For the players chasing money, definitely. But isn’t that partially the point?
Also, if this really was on the cards, would we not have renegotiated with those that we recently took the 1 year extension on?
comment by Freds a Red (U22942)
posted 1 minute ago
Also, if this really was on the cards, would we not have renegotiated with those that we recently took the 1 year extension on?
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Depends how long it’s been on the cards for I suppose, and the terms of those contracts we extended - they might’ve safeguarded the salary level (I know mine would if I negotiated a contract with such a clause).
comment by Greta Thunberg, the Communist mouthpiece 👅 (U9335)
posted 13 seconds ago
comment by Freds a Red (U22942)
posted 16 seconds ago
Liverpool, City, Chelsea, Arsenal, even Newcastle would become as appealing if not more, should United implement such a cap.
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For the players chasing money, definitely. But isn’t that partially the point?
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Liverpool and City offer better football projects.
Chelsea and Arsenal offer the London lifestyle.
Newcastle, yes, they’d be going for the money, but that didn’t harm City, did it?
We've had too many gold diggers at this club, so I get it,
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posted on 8/1/23
While I agree with this in theory and believe salaries should be capped in football in general I’m sure how this would work for us.
Do we say to the likes of Casemiro and Varane they are getting a pay cut or is it for new contracts or signings?
Hard to see it working now.
posted on 8/1/23
Something a little similar didn't work well for us (Arsenal). It meant we struggled to keep hold of top talent which sadly command absolutely bonkers wages yet because the lesser players were getting more than they'd receive elsewhere you couldn't even give them away.
It's always tricky but I think perhaps as much as anything for United getting rid of anyone over 300k or getting them to negotiate below or at 200k is a good idea as a sort of reset within the club.
If no one is on such mental wages at the club then egotistical players can't demand parity with it which I'm sure has been an issue
posted on 8/1/23
Down tools lads,down tools !
posted on 8/1/23
comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 4 minutes ago
While I agree with this in theory and believe salaries should be capped in football in general I’m sure how this would work for us.
Do we say to the likes of Casemiro and Varane they are getting a pay cut or is it for new contracts or signings?
Hard to see it working now.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
*not sure
posted on 8/1/23
comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 5 minutes ago
While I agree with this in theory and believe salaries should be capped in football in general I’m sure how this would work for us.
Do we say to the likes of Casemiro and Varane they are getting a pay cut or is it for new contracts or signings?
Hard to see it working now.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
From what I’ve gathered, existing contracts (e.g De Gea) will only be affected at the time of renewal. Pay cut + incentives or off with you.
posted on 8/1/23
comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 5 minutes ago
While I agree with this in theory and believe salaries should be capped in football in general I’m sure how this would work for us.
Do we say to the likes of Casemiro and Varane they are getting a pay cut or is it for new contracts or signings?
Hard to see it working now.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I don't know any specifics of individual contracts but generally speaking the existing contracts would have to be honoured, unless the players agree to have them cancelled and a new one created.
So I would assume this would only apply to new contracts signed from this point.
posted on 8/1/23
comment by Greta Thunberg, the Communist mouthpiece 👅 (U9335)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 5 minutes ago
While I agree with this in theory and believe salaries should be capped in football in general I’m sure how this would work for us.
Do we say to the likes of Casemiro and Varane they are getting a pay cut or is it for new contracts or signings?
Hard to see it working now.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
From what I’ve gathered, existing contracts (e.g De Gea) will only be affected at the time of renewal. Pay cut + incentives or off with you.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
This has to be the way forward. It should mean De Gea will be affected as he's up for renewal, but Casemiro won't be as he's just signed and was always likely to see through his contract and then leave (probably for a Brazilian club) due to his age.
posted on 8/1/23
comment by Two Balls, One Saka (U19684)
posted 5 minutes ago
Something a little similar didn't work well for us (Arsenal). It meant we struggled to keep hold of top talent which sadly command absolutely bonkers wages yet because the lesser players were getting more than they'd receive elsewhere you couldn't even give them away.
It's always tricky but I think perhaps as much as anything for United getting rid of anyone over 300k or getting them to negotiate below or at 200k is a good idea as a sort of reset within the club.
If no one is on such mental wages at the club then egotistical players can't demand parity with it which I'm sure has been an issue
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Apparently, only 3 players at City earn above £200k, so it’s certainly doable to compete, I’d the scouts do their job well and the manager instills the right attitude within the dressing room.
Liverpool won the lot whilst paying Mane a packet of crisps a week.
But yes, there’s the risk that you don’t keep exciting players when it comes to renewal, or struggle to hold on to emerging stars.
However, I believe the net effect would be positive, at least as a bit of a reset for the wage structure within the club.
posted on 8/1/23
comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 13 seconds ago
comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 4 minutes ago
While I agree with this in theory and believe salaries should be capped in football in general I’m sure how this would work for us.
Do we say to the likes of Casemiro and Varane they are getting a pay cut or is it for new contracts or signings?
Hard to see it working now.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
*not sure
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Obviously United can't just rewrite the contracts because they feel like it's a good idea. The players would need to agree & sign on, some might if they're offered longer deals, others will see out the higher pay before they're willing to negotiate.
But over time the massive contracts are something that can be phased out as players leave or are sold or (unlikely) accept a new contract for lower pay
posted on 8/1/23
Bold to strike out and do this unilaterally, but in the petro league I’m not sure how successful a strategy it will be.
posted on 8/1/23
comment by Greta Thunberg, the Communist mouthpiece 👅 (U9335)
posted 11 seconds ago
comment by Two Balls, One Saka (U19684)
posted 5 minutes ago
Something a little similar didn't work well for us (Arsenal). It meant we struggled to keep hold of top talent which sadly command absolutely bonkers wages yet because the lesser players were getting more than they'd receive elsewhere you couldn't even give them away.
It's always tricky but I think perhaps as much as anything for United getting rid of anyone over 300k or getting them to negotiate below or at 200k is a good idea as a sort of reset within the club.
If no one is on such mental wages at the club then egotistical players can't demand parity with it which I'm sure has been an issue
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Apparently, only 3 players at City earn above £200k, so it’s certainly doable to compete, I’d the scouts do their job well and the manager instills the right attitude within the dressing room.
Liverpool won the lot whilst paying Mane a packet of crisps a week.
But yes, there’s the risk that you don’t keep exciting players when it comes to renewal, or struggle to hold on to emerging stars.
However, I believe the net effect would be positive, at least as a bit of a reset for the wage structure within the club.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yeah true, 200k is still massive. Not many clubs are able to offer that so it's different to the Arsenal Wenger years with our players
posted on 8/1/23
Uproar on Twitter and from people like Neville the first signing we lose out to Newcastle or Chelsea on due to wage demands.
posted on 8/1/23
comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 15 minutes ago
While I agree with this in theory and believe salaries should be capped in football in general I’m sure how this would work for us.
Do we say to the likes of Casemiro and Varane they are getting a pay cut or is it for new contracts or signings?
Hard to see it working now.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Would imagine it’s new contracts. They’re already in legally binding contracts and it says De Gea will be the first as he’s negotiating a new contract.
Would think anyway!
posted on 8/1/23
comment by FFS Mike. (U1170)
posted 1 minute ago
Uproar on Twitter and from people like Neville the first signing we lose out to Newcastle or Chelsea on due to wage demands.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Neville is a fan. He’s hasn’t the first idea how to run/manage a successful football club at the top level. Paying the highest salaries has not proven successful for us for ten years, so hopefully most fans can appreciate that fact if/when we are occasionally pipped by Newcastle/City.
posted on 8/1/23
Sounds nice but surely it just needs to be relative to what our club can actually afford and we wouldn’t really know that until we get new owners. Would be a bit naive if we get a new owner who has large funds to pay well without putting pressure on the club but we limit our wage bill and limit our options.
posted on 8/1/23
City have the draw of Pep, and almost guarantee trophies.
Iv no doubt the club are looking to reduce the wage bill. We knew a while ago that we were offering DDG a new, long term deal on reduced terms, but the £200k per week seems like guess work to suggest they have inside information.
posted on 8/1/23
Apparently, only 3 players at City earn above £200k
———
I’m sure that’s what City are telling everyone. But what about the rest paid through shell accounts?
posted on 8/1/23
Nice idea but surely those guys wouldn’t accept wage cuts.
Salary cap as a proportion of revenue is coming in this summer so I guess it’s something more teams will need to think about going forward. Easier for teams like City that overinflate their revenue.
posted on 8/1/23
Liverpool, City, Chelsea, Arsenal, even Newcastle would become as appealing if not more, should United implement such a cap.
posted on 8/1/23
comment by manutd1982 (U6633)
posted 1 minute ago
Sounds nice but surely it just needs to be relative to what our club can actually afford and we wouldn’t really know that until we get new owners. Would be a bit naive if we get a new owner who has large funds to pay well without putting pressure on the club but we limit our wage bill and limit our options.
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The thing is, we can afford more than most and players/agents know that and have taken advantage of it for many years.
We’d still be very competitive at £200k per week, but I think having a cap also helps us at the lower end. We’re not paying Jess Lingard types £100k a week of our key players can only get £200k.
Another thing I hope to see corrected is our approach to rewarding youngsters with big contracts too soon.
posted on 8/1/23
comment by Freds a Red (U22942)
posted 16 seconds ago
Liverpool, City, Chelsea, Arsenal, even Newcastle would become as appealing if not more, should United implement such a cap.
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For the players chasing money, definitely. But isn’t that partially the point?
posted on 8/1/23
Also, if this really was on the cards, would we not have renegotiated with those that we recently took the 1 year extension on?
posted on 8/1/23
comment by Freds a Red (U22942)
posted 1 minute ago
Also, if this really was on the cards, would we not have renegotiated with those that we recently took the 1 year extension on?
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Depends how long it’s been on the cards for I suppose, and the terms of those contracts we extended - they might’ve safeguarded the salary level (I know mine would if I negotiated a contract with such a clause).
posted on 8/1/23
comment by Greta Thunberg, the Communist mouthpiece 👅 (U9335)
posted 13 seconds ago
comment by Freds a Red (U22942)
posted 16 seconds ago
Liverpool, City, Chelsea, Arsenal, even Newcastle would become as appealing if not more, should United implement such a cap.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
For the players chasing money, definitely. But isn’t that partially the point?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Liverpool and City offer better football projects.
Chelsea and Arsenal offer the London lifestyle.
Newcastle, yes, they’d be going for the money, but that didn’t harm City, did it?
posted on 8/1/23
We've had too many gold diggers at this club, so I get it,
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