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posted 2 days, 8 hours ago

comment by CFC_Steve (U1194)
posted 2 hours, 11 minutes ago
🚨 Dortmund are demanding a minimum of £42m to sell Gittens. Chelsea's response is they will wait and see and reflect, they are under no rush, Gittens does not necessarily have to start the CWC. (@berger_pj) #CFC
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Our new Pulisic Signed him from the same club, at the same age and plays in the same position.

comment by Devil (U6522)

posted 2 days, 6 hours ago

comment by NPE - Maresca's Minions (U22712)
posted 2 hours, 4 minutes ago

comment by T.J (U15973)
posted 27 minutes ago
We're just signing City's academy, bit disappointing considering we got CL. Thought we'd look at higher level of quality but it's just more relatively unknowns we're linked with.
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The problem with succeeding moderately is it only encourages Clearlake to double down on their approach.
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Yep.

We're owned by Dutch from Red Dead Redemption. Any gain (no matter how minor) will have them double down, every setback will have them triple down. Cos after all, "we have a plan" and all we need is that one big win to justify everything

comment by Blarmy (U14547)

posted 2 days, 6 hours ago

comment by Devil (U6522)
posted 4 hours, 5 minutes ago
comment by blueisthecolour (U1528)
posted 47 minutes ago

comment by Blarmy (U14547)
posted 17 minutes ago
comment by NPE - Maresca's Minions (U22712)
posted 30 minutes ago
I think it's unfair to call them speculative punts but I would still say this would be unprecedented and weird if it actually worked.
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Other teams have done incredibly expensive punting before but it usually comes with signing ready made stars to play around them (madrid and psg)
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Exactly.
I'd go as far as saying that these owners are being proved right. Yes we do need a couple of new players to kick on but I think they are doing a really good job.
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This strategy is dumb & even if it ends up working out I wouldn't advise another club doing it, it doesn't make sense on a fundamental level. Real Madrid's current model is the way to do this if you're gunna do this.

But in Clearlake's defence, I will say it's very impressive how they manage to continously get things done. More often than not we get our targets, and that's something we couldn't say we did in the Abramovich era.
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Only Real can actually do what they do

posted 2 days, 5 hours ago

Howdy

comment by Blarmy (U14547)

posted 2 days, 5 hours ago

meowbye

comment by RtM (U1097)

posted 2 days, 4 hours ago

Morning

posted 2 days, 4 hours ago

Ebening

posted 2 days, 1 hour ago

comment by Devil (U6522)
posted 9 hours, 38 minutes ago
comment by blueisthecolour (U1528)
posted 47 minutes ago

comment by Blarmy (U14547)
posted 17 minutes ago
comment by NPE - Maresca's Minions (U22712)
posted 30 minutes ago
I think it's unfair to call them speculative punts but I would still say this would be unprecedented and weird if it actually worked.
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Other teams have done incredibly expensive punting before but it usually comes with signing ready made stars to play around them (madrid and psg)
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Exactly.
I'd go as far as saying that these owners are being proved right. Yes we do need a couple of new players to kick on but I think they are doing a really good job.
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This strategy is dumb & even if it ends up working out I wouldn't advise another club doing it, it doesn't make sense on a fundamental level. Real Madrid's current model is the way to do this if you're gunna do this.

But in Clearlake's defence, I will say it's very impressive how they manage to continously get things done. More often than not we get our targets, and that's something we couldn't say we did in the Abramovich era.
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Also the opportunity cost. We are just wasting so many seasons where we could be competing for/winning the important trophies.

posted 2 days ago

comment by blueisthecolour (U1528)
posted 10 hours, 34 minutes ago
comment by Blarmy (U14547)
posted 17 minutes ago
comment by NPE - Maresca's Minions (U22712)
posted 30 minutes ago
I think it's unfair to call them speculative punts but I would still say this would be unprecedented and weird if it actually worked.
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Other teams have done incredibly expensive punting before but it usually comes with signing ready made stars to play around them (madrid and psg)
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Exactly.
I'd go as far as saying that these owners are being proved right. Yes we do need a couple of new players to kick on but I think they are doing a really good job.
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I see no evidence of that. Opportunity cost for one reason and suddenly what, we are now playing spectacular football. The truth is we have gone backwards since Tuchel left. That is where we stand right now.

Yes, it is fine to be optimistic about the future, but to do do is purely speculative,just like our club's transfer policy.

posted 2 days ago

Mike Maignan has reached an agreement with Chelsea for a multi-year contract.

The agreement with Milan is also close. Could be closed tomorrow.

~ @86_longo

comment by MonTT (U22775)

posted 2 days ago

comment by SWTN - Judas is number 1 (U7916)
posted 26 minutes ago
comment by blueisthecolour (U1528)
posted 10 hours, 34 minutes ago
comment by Blarmy (U14547)
posted 17 minutes ago
comment by NPE - Maresca's Minions (U22712)
posted 30 minutes ago
I think it's unfair to call them speculative punts but I would still say this would be unprecedented and weird if it actually worked.
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Other teams have done incredibly expensive punting before but it usually comes with signing ready made stars to play around them (madrid and psg)
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Exactly.
I'd go as far as saying that these owners are being proved right. Yes we do need a couple of new players to kick on but I think they are doing a really good job.
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I see no evidence of that. Opportunity cost for one reason and suddenly what, we are now playing spectacular football. The truth is we have gone backwards since Tuchel left. That is where we stand right now.

Yes, it is fine to be optimistic about the future, but to do do is purely speculative,just like our club's transfer policy.
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I see it differently.

Liverpool are about to drop £130m on Wirtz — a good player, no doubt. But is he better than Palmer? No, he’s not. The difference? Wirtz is seen as more “ready-made,” so the price is nearly 3x as much.

That’s exactly where our speculative strategy has worked. We took a chance on Palmer for £40m and he’s now one of the best attacking players in the league.

Now imagine doing that 11 times — that’s the model. Build a squad full of high-ceiling talent before they hit that ridiculous price tag.

We paid big for Caicedo and Enzo, sure — but look at them now. They’re becoming the players we paid for, and then some.

People on here act like we should just buy a full team of £100m “ready-made” players every summer. That’s not football — that’s fantasy. It’s not sustainable, not even for oil clubs.

Transfer prices are only rising, and clubs like Liverpool will do one big splash a year, then plug holes with squad fillers.

Chelsea? We’re looking at Delap (£30m), Gittens (£30m), Maignan (£15m) — three players that improve the squad, add depth, and grow with our core.

And as our young squad matures, all of a sudden we’re packed with £100m players we didn’t have to buy at £100m.

Yeah, it’s a slower road — but we’re building something that lasts.

comment by MonTT (U22775)

posted 2 days ago

The argument that we are now just speculating is also just silly, you are forgetting entirely that the players we bought 1 2 seasons ago are now established premier league players, a squad that won a trophy and finished 4th in the hardest league in the world and reached everyone's pre season targets.

At the moment the model IS working

comment by RtM (U1097)

posted 2 days ago

comment by MonTT (U22775)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by SWTN - Judas is number 1 (U7916)
posted 26 minutes ago
comment by blueisthecolour (U1528)
posted 10 hours, 34 minutes ago
comment by Blarmy (U14547)
posted 17 minutes ago
comment by NPE - Maresca's Minions (U22712)
posted 30 minutes ago
I think it's unfair to call them speculative punts but I would still say this would be unprecedented and weird if it actually worked.
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Other teams have done incredibly expensive punting before but it usually comes with signing ready made stars to play around them (madrid and psg)
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Exactly.
I'd go as far as saying that these owners are being proved right. Yes we do need a couple of new players to kick on but I think they are doing a really good job.
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I see no evidence of that. Opportunity cost for one reason and suddenly what, we are now playing spectacular football. The truth is we have gone backwards since Tuchel left. That is where we stand right now.

Yes, it is fine to be optimistic about the future, but to do do is purely speculative,just like our club's transfer policy.
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I see it differently.

Liverpool are about to drop £130m on Wirtz — a good player, no doubt. But is he better than Palmer? No, he’s not. The difference? Wirtz is seen as more “ready-made,” so the price is nearly 3x as much.

That’s exactly where our speculative strategy has worked. We took a chance on Palmer for £40m and he’s now one of the best attacking players in the league.

Now imagine doing that 11 times — that’s the model. Build a squad full of high-ceiling talent before they hit that ridiculous price tag.

We paid big for Caicedo and Enzo, sure — but look at them now. They’re becoming the players we paid for, and then some.

People on here act like we should just buy a full team of £100m “ready-made” players every summer. That’s not football — that’s fantasy. It’s not sustainable, not even for oil clubs.

Transfer prices are only rising, and clubs like Liverpool will do one big splash a year, then plug holes with squad fillers.

Chelsea? We’re looking at Delap (£30m), Gittens (£30m), Maignan (£15m) — three players that improve the squad, add depth, and grow with our core.

And as our young squad matures, all of a sudden we’re packed with £100m players we didn’t have to buy at £100m.

Yeah, it’s a slower road — but we’re building something that lasts.
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You’ve just painted a huge target on your back

comment by MonTT (U22775)

posted 1 day, 23 hours ago

comment by RtM (U1097)
posted 18 minutes ago
comment by MonTT (U22775)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by SWTN - Judas is number 1 (U7916)
posted 26 minutes ago
comment by blueisthecolour (U1528)
posted 10 hours, 34 minutes ago
comment by Blarmy (U14547)
posted 17 minutes ago
comment by NPE - Maresca's Minions (U22712)
posted 30 minutes ago
I think it's unfair to call them speculative punts but I would still say this would be unprecedented and weird if it actually worked.
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Other teams have done incredibly expensive punting before but it usually comes with signing ready made stars to play around them (madrid and psg)
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Exactly.
I'd go as far as saying that these owners are being proved right. Yes we do need a couple of new players to kick on but I think they are doing a really good job.
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I see no evidence of that. Opportunity cost for one reason and suddenly what, we are now playing spectacular football. The truth is we have gone backwards since Tuchel left. That is where we stand right now.

Yes, it is fine to be optimistic about the future, but to do do is purely speculative,just like our club's transfer policy.
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I see it differently.

Liverpool are about to drop £130m on Wirtz — a good player, no doubt. But is he better than Palmer? No, he’s not. The difference? Wirtz is seen as more “ready-made,” so the price is nearly 3x as much.

That’s exactly where our speculative strategy has worked. We took a chance on Palmer for £40m and he’s now one of the best attacking players in the league.

Now imagine doing that 11 times — that’s the model. Build a squad full of high-ceiling talent before they hit that ridiculous price tag.

We paid big for Caicedo and Enzo, sure — but look at them now. They’re becoming the players we paid for, and then some.

People on here act like we should just buy a full team of £100m “ready-made” players every summer. That’s not football — that’s fantasy. It’s not sustainable, not even for oil clubs.

Transfer prices are only rising, and clubs like Liverpool will do one big splash a year, then plug holes with squad fillers.

Chelsea? We’re looking at Delap (£30m), Gittens (£30m), Maignan (£15m) — three players that improve the squad, add depth, and grow with our core.

And as our young squad matures, all of a sudden we’re packed with £100m players we didn’t have to buy at £100m.

Yeah, it’s a slower road — but we’re building something that lasts.
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You’ve just painted a huge target on your back
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That's pretty sinister

posted 1 day, 23 hours ago

‼️ Chelsea submit bid for Mike Maignan worth €15m as final decision will be up to AC Milan.

Chelsea want to get final answer on Maignan negotiations before the end of Club World Cup window on Tuesday.

~ @FabrizioRomano

posted 1 day, 23 hours ago

Milan have finally agreed a €18m deal with Chelsea for Mike Maignan. Between today and tomorrow, the details of a deal will be ironed out.

Barring any surprises, Mike Maignan will go to Chelsea and play in the Club World Cup.

{Gazetta dello Sport}

comment by Devil (U6522)

posted 1 day, 22 hours ago

People on here act like we should just buy a full team of £100m “ready-made” players every summer. That’s not football — that’s fantasy. It’s not sustainable, not even for oil clubs.
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No they don't. In fact one of the driving points as to why this model is stupid for us specfically (as well as in general) is because a huge influx of funds was unnecessary.

Whoever bought us in 2022 had the benefit of inheriting one of the most stable foundations a top club can have. The club was bleeding money sure (and that hasn't changed), but everything from a football prospective was already in place - young squad who'd just won the fkn Champions League, one of the best managers in the world, one of the best academies in the world, and a culture of winning both at boardroom level & on the ground. And, very significantly, an enormous amount of PSR wiggle room thanks to the nature of the sale. Clearlake saw this wonderful foundation that only required a restructuring on the branding side of things, and decided to change literaily everything!

No-one's saying lets buy a super team, which we technically could've with that 1.5B in combination with said foundation (so not fantasy in our case) but that's beside the point, all people want is for us to get our heads out of our @rses & stop needlessly limiting ourselves for the sake of this "idea", and what I personally would appreciate is for us to not revolutionize the squad every god damn season! e.g. if we're spending so much money that we have to buy a player we don't want in order to sell one of our best players (Felix/Gallagher), maybe STOP BUYING PLAYERS!

I said on a CMF article the other week that I can't deny this youth fixation is becoming a thing in the wider world of football & we're just the poster boy of it, but it's quite telling to me that 3 of the top 5 league winners this season haven't conformed to this fad yet - Liverpool, Napoli & Bayern - cos a balanced squad full of youth & experience is football's tried & trusted formula & that's never gunna change.

posted 1 day, 21 hours ago

‼️ Dortmund have rejected Chelsea’s first offer of €42m for Jamie Gittens.

And they are now demanding €70 million.

~ @cfbayern



Was €35-37 last night.

posted 1 day, 21 hours ago

Dortmund want around £42m for Jamie Gittens.

Chelsea’s opening bid of £30m has been turned down but positive talks continue.

~ @JacobsBen

comment by T.J (U15973)

posted 1 day, 21 hours ago

Maignan, full agreement with Chelsea for a multi-year contract. Also close to an agreement with Milan, tomorrow it can be closed

posted 1 day, 21 hours ago

comment by Devil (U6522)
posted 34 minutes ago
People on here act like we should just buy a full team of £100m “ready-made” players every summer. That’s not football — that’s fantasy. It’s not sustainable, not even for oil clubs.
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No they don't. In fact one of the driving points as to why this model is stupid for us specfically (as well as in general) is because a huge influx of funds was unnecessary.

Whoever bought us in 2022 had the benefit of inheriting one of the most stable foundations a top club can have. The club was bleeding money sure (and that hasn't changed), but everything from a football prospective was already in place - young squad who'd just won the fkn Champions League, one of the best managers in the world, one of the best academies in the world, and a culture of winning both at boardroom level & on the ground. And, very significantly, an enormous amount of PSR wiggle room thanks to the nature of the sale. Clearlake saw this wonderful foundation that only required a restructuring on the branding side of things, and decided to change literaily everything!

No-one's saying lets buy a super team, which we technically could've with that 1.5B in combination with said foundation (so not fantasy in our case) but that's beside the point, all people want is for us to get our heads out of our @rses & stop needlessly limiting ourselves for the sake of this "idea", and what I personally would appreciate is for us to not revolutionize the squad every god damn season! e.g. if we're spending so much money that we have to buy a player we don't want in order to sell one of our best players (Felix/Gallagher), maybe STOP BUYING PLAYERS!

I said on a CMF article the other week that I can't deny this youth fixation is becoming a thing in the wider world of football & we're just the poster boy of it, but it's quite telling to me that 3 of the top 5 league winners this season haven't conformed to this fad yet - Liverpool, Napoli & Bayern - cos a balanced squad full of youth & experience is football's tried & trusted formula & that's never gunna change.
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Exactly, why do we have to deal in extremes when a balanced approach to recruitment is an option.

posted 1 day, 21 hours ago

Chelsea have let Milan know they’re not willing to pay more than £12.6m for Maignan. (@SkyKaveh) #CFC

comment by CSTP (U1453)

posted 1 day, 21 hours ago

Unlike Onana, at least he’s not expensive

comment by Devil (U6522)

posted 1 day, 21 hours ago

comment by CFC_Steve (U1194)
posted 12 minutes ago

Chelsea have let Milan know they’re not willing to pay more than £12.6m for Maignan. (@SkyKaveh) #CFC
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Isn't this lack of drama great?

posted 1 day, 21 hours ago

comment by Devil (U6522)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by CFC_Steve (U1194)
posted 12 minutes ago

Chelsea have let Milan know they’re not willing to pay more than £12.6m for Maignan. (@SkyKaveh) #CFC
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Isn't this lack of drama great?
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Yes no drama at all here. . Move a long 🤣

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