Am i the only one who thinks Xavi is over rated? Leon Britton could do a better job in that barce/spanish team
I dont think anything he does is special, its just playing it simple. If thats what it takes to become rated highly every player should be doing it
"Am i the only one who thinks Xavi is over rated? Leon Britton could do a better job in that barce/spanish team
I dont think anything he does is special, its just playing it simple. If thats what it takes to become rated highly every player should be doing it "
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You get my vote for delusionist of the week
You wanna start this again? You ran off last time, but ok, I'll bite.
Busquets is a defensive midfielder, Pirlo is a CM. The role isn't really similar, Busquets has to do a lot more defensive work, he's almost like a third centre back at times. His short passing is also a lot better than Pirlo's, but Pirlo has a better array of passing.
You can't really compare them tbh.
The only player Pirlo can be compared to in Spain's team is Xavi.
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I even said in my post they play different roles, just in a similar position (middle of the park, dropping quite deep). I'm not denying they're vastly different players, i just think maybe Spain don't need a DM, they need another passer, just one with a better long pass than Xavi or Alonso offer.
I prefer to watch Pirlo over Xavi. Xavi over the past season has been below his usual standards. Atm Pirlo is better.
Xavi's lost that touch, down to injuries and fatigue of non stop football for 4yrs tunning.
Spain has this terrible way of believing possession game can win you games, but i think if it is not fast, then you cannot break down teams. Last night when Pedro and Navas came on they looked dangerous and with Fabregas playing the playmaker role, they were very good.
"I even said in my post they play different roles, just in a similar position (middle of the park, dropping quite deep). I'm not denying they're vastly different players, i just think maybe Spain don't need a DM, they need another passer, just one with a better long pass than Xavi or Alonso offer."
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They don't need anymore passers in midfield. Iniesta, Xavi and Alonso are good enough at that.
And how can you bum Llorente when you don't rate Giroud who's a better player than LLorente.
Don't tell me you actually rate Llorente?
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he's a top striker, most european fans, journo's and experts rate him too, so it's not like that busquets issue from the other night, this time it's you in the minority. He's big, powerful, a beast in the air, but has an excellent 1st touch, is brilliant at linking up play etc.
"Spain has this terrible way of believing possession game can win you games"
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I wonder why that is
Having read more comments i dont rate Busquets or Pique highly either, i highly doubt it will be hard to Barce/spain to replace any of these 3 in all honesty. Iniesta/Messi/Alonso on the other hand are unique.
I like Pirlo's directness and his range of passing.
And yeah I dont have time to sit around and watch all the leagues around the world every single week.
Judging on this tournament. Ive been impressed with Pirlo more than Xavi
And how can you bum Llorente when you don't rate Giroud who's a better player than LLorente.
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Llorente is in a whole different class to Giroud.
His short passing is also a lot better than Pirlo's,
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Can't agree Kamran just watched him roll about 100 short passes around the midfield, one touch, head up give it, move take it back off the centre half if the ball doesn't move forward and start again. He's a great passer of the ball short or long and nearly always fins a teammate.
Agree him and Busquets are different players but Pirlo covers plenty of ground, puts in tackles and also gets in great positions to intercept, but you'd be wasting his true talent by playing him so deep. He'd push Alonso for a place in Spains midfield.
He'd push Alonso for a place in Spains midfield.
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Aagreed. Was thinking exactly the same thing
"he's a top striker, most european fans, journo's and experts rate him too, so it's not like that busquets issue from the other night, this time it's you in the minority. He's big, powerful, a beast in the air, but has an excellent 1st touch, is brilliant at linking up play etc."
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You actually care what the journos think? Sums up your mentality.
Anyone who understands football knows that Busquets is a world class player, which explains why you don't rate him.
Llorente is a strong player who's good in the air and a decent player, but if you rate him surely you rate Giroud who has a better all-round game?
"Llorente is in a whole different class to Giroud."
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Nah, he's not.
Seen fair bit of Llorente this season and he looks quality, i rate him from what i have seen. Giroud not seen much of tbh but he looks quite technical for a big man, but from clips ive seen of his goals, the defending in the french league is non-existent, seriously go watch Girouds goals, no wonder he doesnt need pace
Llorente is a strong player who's good in the air and a decent player, but if you rate him surely you rate Giroud who has a better all-round game?
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How does Giroud have a better all around game than Llorente? Go on, explain, what have i missed?
Lol, it's quite clear that people on here don't watch much football. You're all saying Pirlo is better because he's had 3 good games. It's embarrassing.
"How does Giroud have a better all around game than Llorente? Go on, explain, what have i missed?"
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Better technical ability, link up play, passing, shooting, more mobile, faster and equally good in the air.
Kamran only rates players that get into Spain's or Barca teams. Bet he thinks Valdez is world class too.
"Kamran only rates players that get into Spain's or Barca teams. Bet he thinks Valdez is world class too."
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That's not true.
Valdez is one of the worst keepers I've seen in a long time. Awful.
Xavi is rated for collecting the ball and having 350 touches and 350 passes completing 340 of them? if you watch him its not hard to see why its nothing special in my eyes.
"Xavi is rated for collecting the ball and having 350 touches and 350 passes completing 340 of them? if you watch him its not hard to see why its nothing special in my eyes."
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Agreed.
Adam >> Xavi
Better technical ability, link up play, passing, shooting, more mobile, faster and equally good in the air.
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I disagree with all of that.
comment by Kamran - KingKoscielny (U1204)
posted 2 minutes ago
Lol, it's quite clear that people on here don't watch much football. You're all saying Pirlo is better because he's had 3 good games. It's embarrassing.
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Its clear you don't watch much football LMAO how long has Pirlo been around?
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posted on 28/6/12
Am i the only one who thinks Xavi is over rated? Leon Britton could do a better job in that barce/spanish team
I dont think anything he does is special, its just playing it simple. If thats what it takes to become rated highly every player should be doing it
posted on 28/6/12
"Am i the only one who thinks Xavi is over rated? Leon Britton could do a better job in that barce/spanish team
I dont think anything he does is special, its just playing it simple. If thats what it takes to become rated highly every player should be doing it "
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You get my vote for delusionist of the week
posted on 28/6/12
You wanna start this again? You ran off last time, but ok, I'll bite.
Busquets is a defensive midfielder, Pirlo is a CM. The role isn't really similar, Busquets has to do a lot more defensive work, he's almost like a third centre back at times. His short passing is also a lot better than Pirlo's, but Pirlo has a better array of passing.
You can't really compare them tbh.
The only player Pirlo can be compared to in Spain's team is Xavi.
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I even said in my post they play different roles, just in a similar position (middle of the park, dropping quite deep). I'm not denying they're vastly different players, i just think maybe Spain don't need a DM, they need another passer, just one with a better long pass than Xavi or Alonso offer.
posted on 28/6/12
I prefer to watch Pirlo over Xavi. Xavi over the past season has been below his usual standards. Atm Pirlo is better.
Xavi's lost that touch, down to injuries and fatigue of non stop football for 4yrs tunning.
posted on 28/6/12
Spain has this terrible way of believing possession game can win you games, but i think if it is not fast, then you cannot break down teams. Last night when Pedro and Navas came on they looked dangerous and with Fabregas playing the playmaker role, they were very good.
posted on 28/6/12
"I even said in my post they play different roles, just in a similar position (middle of the park, dropping quite deep). I'm not denying they're vastly different players, i just think maybe Spain don't need a DM, they need another passer, just one with a better long pass than Xavi or Alonso offer."
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They don't need anymore passers in midfield. Iniesta, Xavi and Alonso are good enough at that.
And how can you bum Llorente when you don't rate Giroud who's a better player than LLorente.
posted on 28/6/12
Don't tell me you actually rate Llorente?
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he's a top striker, most european fans, journo's and experts rate him too, so it's not like that busquets issue from the other night, this time it's you in the minority. He's big, powerful, a beast in the air, but has an excellent 1st touch, is brilliant at linking up play etc.
posted on 28/6/12
"Spain has this terrible way of believing possession game can win you games"
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I wonder why that is
posted on 28/6/12
Having read more comments i dont rate Busquets or Pique highly either, i highly doubt it will be hard to Barce/spain to replace any of these 3 in all honesty. Iniesta/Messi/Alonso on the other hand are unique.
posted on 28/6/12
I like Pirlo's directness and his range of passing.
And yeah I dont have time to sit around and watch all the leagues around the world every single week.
Judging on this tournament. Ive been impressed with Pirlo more than Xavi
posted on 28/6/12
And how can you bum Llorente when you don't rate Giroud who's a better player than LLorente.
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Llorente is in a whole different class to Giroud.
posted on 28/6/12
His short passing is also a lot better than Pirlo's,
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Can't agree Kamran just watched him roll about 100 short passes around the midfield, one touch, head up give it, move take it back off the centre half if the ball doesn't move forward and start again. He's a great passer of the ball short or long and nearly always fins a teammate.
Agree him and Busquets are different players but Pirlo covers plenty of ground, puts in tackles and also gets in great positions to intercept, but you'd be wasting his true talent by playing him so deep. He'd push Alonso for a place in Spains midfield.
posted on 28/6/12
He'd push Alonso for a place in Spains midfield.
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Aagreed. Was thinking exactly the same thing
posted on 28/6/12
"he's a top striker, most european fans, journo's and experts rate him too, so it's not like that busquets issue from the other night, this time it's you in the minority. He's big, powerful, a beast in the air, but has an excellent 1st touch, is brilliant at linking up play etc."
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You actually care what the journos think? Sums up your mentality.
Anyone who understands football knows that Busquets is a world class player, which explains why you don't rate him.
Llorente is a strong player who's good in the air and a decent player, but if you rate him surely you rate Giroud who has a better all-round game?
posted on 28/6/12
"Llorente is in a whole different class to Giroud."
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Nah, he's not.
posted on 28/6/12
Seen fair bit of Llorente this season and he looks quality, i rate him from what i have seen. Giroud not seen much of tbh but he looks quite technical for a big man, but from clips ive seen of his goals, the defending in the french league is non-existent, seriously go watch Girouds goals, no wonder he doesnt need pace
posted on 28/6/12
Llorente is a strong player who's good in the air and a decent player, but if you rate him surely you rate Giroud who has a better all-round game?
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How does Giroud have a better all around game than Llorente? Go on, explain, what have i missed?
posted on 28/6/12
Lol, it's quite clear that people on here don't watch much football. You're all saying Pirlo is better because he's had 3 good games. It's embarrassing.
posted on 28/6/12
"How does Giroud have a better all around game than Llorente? Go on, explain, what have i missed?"
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Better technical ability, link up play, passing, shooting, more mobile, faster and equally good in the air.
posted on 28/6/12
Kamran only rates players that get into Spain's or Barca teams. Bet he thinks Valdez is world class too.
posted on 28/6/12
"Kamran only rates players that get into Spain's or Barca teams. Bet he thinks Valdez is world class too."
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That's not true.
Valdez is one of the worst keepers I've seen in a long time. Awful.
posted on 28/6/12
Xavi is rated for collecting the ball and having 350 touches and 350 passes completing 340 of them? if you watch him its not hard to see why its nothing special in my eyes.
posted on 28/6/12
"Xavi is rated for collecting the ball and having 350 touches and 350 passes completing 340 of them? if you watch him its not hard to see why its nothing special in my eyes."
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Agreed.
Adam >> Xavi
posted on 28/6/12
Better technical ability, link up play, passing, shooting, more mobile, faster and equally good in the air.
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I disagree with all of that.
posted on 28/6/12
comment by Kamran - KingKoscielny (U1204)
posted 2 minutes ago
Lol, it's quite clear that people on here don't watch much football. You're all saying Pirlo is better because he's had 3 good games. It's embarrassing.
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Its clear you don't watch much football LMAO how long has Pirlo been around?
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