This also happened at qpr in a match with west ham, thousands of west ham fans crammed in but fortunately there was no fence so the fans at the front just ran onto the pitch. This was in 1988.
Fencing around a football pitch has always been a terrible idea.
RIP to the 96
Cheers Tomkins , I've been crushed a little on a few occasions but never like 1981
Is it right that there Hillsborough did not have a valid safety certificate in 1989?
Grizzly To the best of my knowledge you are correct , TBH i'm not sure if it was an oversight or someone doing a mate a favour
It was 1989 after all. I'm guessing safety wasn't high on the priority list at a lot of grounds. It happened at Hillsborough but could have happened anywhere. Unfortunately, it took the tragic events of that day to get the standards to change.
Rover .....Mate the place was a death trap because of the design , there were a number of incidents on Leppings Lane and the F.A had had numerous complaints about it , I'm asking why they ignored all the evidence and still allowed the game to be staged there after all there were a number of other grounds to use
comment by Be A Grizzly (U2206)
posted 20 minutes ago
Is it right that there Hillsborough did not have a valid safety certificate in 1989?
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Yes, the certificate had expired 10 YEARS before that terrible day.
The FA never bothered to check.
Who knows? Bigger gates, TV revenue, backhanders to help out a mate who worked for Wednesday?
I think the FA has more to answer for than simply saying sorry.
Did anyone see Adrian Bevington (Head of FA communications) on the Footballers Football Show on Sky? He apologised for the FA’s ‘involvement’ but when he was pushed on what exactly the FA were apologising for, you could clearly see he didn’t have a clue.
Sir Robert thanks for that
I didnt know that it was that far out of date and only adds to my belief that the F.A have to be brought to justice
Rover Sorry missed that but it doesnt surprise me in the least
10 years out of date?! It just gets worse.
There are so many people at serious fault here.
The F.A. should never have allowed a game to take place at a ground with a recent history of potential crush problems, nor should they have allowed a game to take place at a ground without a valid safety certificate.
The Sheffield Council for allowing their venue to be used, even though it had no valid safety certificate.
The Police for their incompetence in marshalling the crowd.
Whoever decided to open the gate.
Whoever stopped the ambulances that were waiting outside from going in to the ground.
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That's before you even think of the cover-up, lies and deceit that followed.
Spot on Grizzly
Best comment of the day
I believe the only people that made complaints about the safety in the ground were the fire brigade and even they still let it go ahead.
There were many, many opportunities to prevent hillsborough, Sheffield county council, sheffield wednesday football club, south yorkshire police, south yorkshire fire and amublance service and the FA all could have done something about it.
But the FA did kind of do something about it, they put off the tragedy for 7 years (just enough time for most people to forget the 1981 incident) and then allowed the match to go ahead despite the ground not having changed sufficiently to improve it's safety standards and similar occurring twice in the preceeding 2 years.
THEY ARE ALL CULPABLE.
Reggie
I wrote to Wednesday and a good few of the guys I went with also wrote to the Police , Spurs and Wednesday , It's 31 years ago now but to the best of my memory the only replies we got were curt notes from the Sheffield Police thanking us for bringing it to their attention and saying it was being looked into ...Never heard another word from them
Cheers mate , really nice of you to remember our chat and my mum....She's still fighting like a good un and TBH I wouldnt expect anything else of her
ill never forget our chat
Me neither .....One of the best conversations I've ever had on here ....Two football fans of rival clubs putting their differences aside for an hour to talk about things that matter
im not against Spurs tbh with you its just a bit of banter to me,the teams i hate are LFC,Cha vs and Shi tty
Deff agree about 2 of those teams but I cannot have a go at Pool at the moment . I feel so much for them at the moment and every time I think about 1989 it sends a cold shiver up my back because it could have been me
We were in the same stand as the events which befell the Pool fans 8 years later , mate I've never been so scared in any situation at a match , I was trapped in the narrow part of the "funnel" that I talked about there was so much pressure coming from behind me and I saw a number of my own fans hurt and taken away by stretchers .......Wengers I wouldn't wish that on any person
thats not a very nice situation to be in,im glad your
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posted on 15/9/12
This also happened at qpr in a match with west ham, thousands of west ham fans crammed in but fortunately there was no fence so the fans at the front just ran onto the pitch. This was in 1988.
Fencing around a football pitch has always been a terrible idea.
RIP to the 96
posted on 15/9/12
Cheers Tomkins , I've been crushed a little on a few occasions but never like 1981
posted on 15/9/12
Is it right that there Hillsborough did not have a valid safety certificate in 1989?
posted on 15/9/12
Grizzly To the best of my knowledge you are correct , TBH i'm not sure if it was an oversight or someone doing a mate a favour
posted on 15/9/12
It was 1989 after all. I'm guessing safety wasn't high on the priority list at a lot of grounds. It happened at Hillsborough but could have happened anywhere. Unfortunately, it took the tragic events of that day to get the standards to change.
posted on 15/9/12
Rover .....Mate the place was a death trap because of the design , there were a number of incidents on Leppings Lane and the F.A had had numerous complaints about it , I'm asking why they ignored all the evidence and still allowed the game to be staged there after all there were a number of other grounds to use
posted on 15/9/12
comment by Be A Grizzly (U2206)
posted 20 minutes ago
Is it right that there Hillsborough did not have a valid safety certificate in 1989?
=============
Yes, the certificate had expired 10 YEARS before that terrible day.
The FA never bothered to check.
posted on 15/9/12
Who knows? Bigger gates, TV revenue, backhanders to help out a mate who worked for Wednesday?
I think the FA has more to answer for than simply saying sorry.
Did anyone see Adrian Bevington (Head of FA communications) on the Footballers Football Show on Sky? He apologised for the FA’s ‘involvement’ but when he was pushed on what exactly the FA were apologising for, you could clearly see he didn’t have a clue.
posted on 15/9/12
Sir Robert thanks for that
I didnt know that it was that far out of date and only adds to my belief that the F.A have to be brought to justice
posted on 15/9/12
Rover Sorry missed that but it doesnt surprise me in the least
posted on 15/9/12
10 years out of date?! It just gets worse.
There are so many people at serious fault here.
The F.A. should never have allowed a game to take place at a ground with a recent history of potential crush problems, nor should they have allowed a game to take place at a ground without a valid safety certificate.
The Sheffield Council for allowing their venue to be used, even though it had no valid safety certificate.
The Police for their incompetence in marshalling the crowd.
Whoever decided to open the gate.
Whoever stopped the ambulances that were waiting outside from going in to the ground.
--------------------------------------------
That's before you even think of the cover-up, lies and deceit that followed.
posted on 15/9/12
Spot on Grizzly
Best comment of the day
posted on 15/9/12
I believe the only people that made complaints about the safety in the ground were the fire brigade and even they still let it go ahead.
There were many, many opportunities to prevent hillsborough, Sheffield county council, sheffield wednesday football club, south yorkshire police, south yorkshire fire and amublance service and the FA all could have done something about it.
But the FA did kind of do something about it, they put off the tragedy for 7 years (just enough time for most people to forget the 1981 incident) and then allowed the match to go ahead despite the ground not having changed sufficiently to improve it's safety standards and similar occurring twice in the preceeding 2 years.
THEY ARE ALL CULPABLE.
posted on 15/9/12
Reggie
I wrote to Wednesday and a good few of the guys I went with also wrote to the Police , Spurs and Wednesday , It's 31 years ago now but to the best of my memory the only replies we got were curt notes from the Sheffield Police thanking us for bringing it to their attention and saying it was being looked into ...Never heard another word from them
posted on 15/9/12
Hi Squid
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Wengers
posted on 15/9/12
how's your Mam doing ?
posted on 15/9/12
Cheers mate , really nice of you to remember our chat and my mum....She's still fighting like a good un and TBH I wouldnt expect anything else of her
posted on 15/9/12
ill never forget our chat
posted on 15/9/12
Me neither .....One of the best conversations I've ever had on here ....Two football fans of rival clubs putting their differences aside for an hour to talk about things that matter
posted on 15/9/12
im not against Spurs tbh with you its just a bit of banter to me,the teams i hate are LFC,Cha vs and Shi tty
posted on 15/9/12
Deff agree about 2 of those teams but I cannot have a go at Pool at the moment . I feel so much for them at the moment and every time I think about 1989 it sends a cold shiver up my back because it could have been me
posted on 15/9/12
how you?
posted on 15/9/12
We were in the same stand as the events which befell the Pool fans 8 years later , mate I've never been so scared in any situation at a match , I was trapped in the narrow part of the "funnel" that I talked about there was so much pressure coming from behind me and I saw a number of my own fans hurt and taken away by stretchers .......Wengers I wouldn't wish that on any person
posted on 15/9/12
thats not a very nice situation to be in,im glad your
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