Im afraid to say that you should read dates correctly it's from 2011 which means that is for 2012 this past year

Pirelli has opted to be even more aggressive with its tyres this season, and new compounds and new constructions are set to lead to higher degradation and more pitstops in 2013.

arsene wenger

i know exactly what dates are on the link
the points i raised concern his general lack of tactical intelligence over a race distance which i believe he never has or ever will have as he just does not come across as that kind of driver -

of course this does not make him a bad driver as we all know he is a very good driver - however i believe he will struggle to adapt to any major change in tyre spec in the way that a more savvy driver would --

Martial, I believe you need to go back and watch the 2012 season again.

Lewis mastered the Pirelli tyres last season and did an excellent job with them.

If his car wasn't so unreliable, he would have won the championship by a landslide.

Races like Hungaroring showed how superb he had mastered tyre management. His team were bricking it but he was cool and calm, led from the front and had only one stop. Same in Austin when he bid his time and overtook Vettel. You will notice that in both of those races, the finger was crying on the radio because he couldn't do anything to overtake Button and crying because Hamilton overtook him.

If you were really being honest about tyre management, I would expect you to name Perez and Button as experts here but we know why you didn't.

New year, same old stuff.

you are not really seeing the wider picture manx , lets not forget mclaren were ultra competitive from the first race last season and had the best car for just about every race last season and the races that hamilton won were on circuits where tyre wear was not really an issue -
however i am the first to admit that hamilton had a pretty solid season during 2012 and won when he should have won with the benefit of the best car -

however --- i dont judge a driver on one season and for me lewis just does not and never has and probably never will come across as very intelligent in or out of the car and i believe if pirelli throw everybody a curved ball with a tyre that degrades quicker than last year he is less able to adapt his style in the way that the smarter drivers can -
--------nothing personal manx just my opinion mate -

I have the opinion that somebody who can't spell shouldn't question the intelligence of somebody else who has made the very top of a cerebral profession.

aristodemus

i have the opinion that you are too gutless to talk about the topic at hand so just join the topic to insult the author

Debating a fool is like playing chess with a pigeon. It knocks over the pieces, $hits on the board, then flies back to his flock to brag how he won.

aristodemus

no - you still dont have the boll**** or knowledge to debate the topic ,
---------- have another try

It is amusing that a world champion and a winner of races every year in a car that isn't always the best on the grid is not considered intelligent.

Apart from Hamilton, only Alonso and Kimi can say they've done that in recent memory consistently.

Makes no sense whatsoever

man unt devil

be interested to hear about the races that hamilton has won by merit when he has"nt had the best car --

lets put it another way manx - at monaco the one solitary race of the year when the performance of thedriver can make a real difference on a track that is a great car leveler hamilton is very often blown off

Monaco isn't a car leveler because whoever's in pole wins the race most of the time.

A very unintelligent example. China 2 years ago was an example of Hamilton winning in a car that wasn't the fastest on the grid.

why cant hamilton put his car on pole at monaco and win then manx -
as for china 2011 -- the mclarens were ultra competitive all weekend at shanghai that year manx and vettel had major KERS problems during the race and webber started 18th or whatever it was in qual

without KERS at china with one of the longest straits on the calender a driver is at a major disadvantage , so lets have it right hamilton had an ultra competitive car and his closest rivals didnt on the day because of KERS and communication problems and severe problems in qual --
---- better luck next time manx

There are a lot of drivers who haven't been on pole. Hamilton has won there though so I'm not sure what point you are trying to make.

Considering how difficult it is to overtake there even when you car is so superior to others, only someone who isn't very bright would use it as an example.

Hamilton has won races in cars that aren't the fastest on the grid, that is a fact and Alonso, continues to praise him for his ability to do this.

You will of course forgive me for valuing his opinion more than a troll on the wind up

fully aware there are many drivers " who havent been on pole " at monaco - what has that got to do with anthing manx ?

the point i made about monaco is that it is a great leveler of cars and hamilton with the possible exception of early 09 has allways had cars that have been capable of obtaining pole and winning at monaco and yet his record at monaco is relatively very poor considering the machinery he has had from day 1 of his career -

as for him winning in cars that have not been ultra competitive------- ---- when
you named china 2011 and i blew that out of the water with cold hard facts --

Troll, troll, troll your boat, gently down the stream

man unt devil

dear dear me manx i expected better from you mate -

i have allways been very civil to you but true to the breed of most hamilton fan boys when you are faced with an alternative objective opinion of genuine substance about your little hero that you cant counter you resort to insults ------

----- on a forum such as this you have to be mature enough to realise that everybody is entitled to there opinion mate ,
i am entitled to mine as you are entitled to yours and believe it or not i respect everybodys opinion even if i dont agree with them , just because my opinion is different from yours about hamilton does not make me a bad person -

however such is the nature of sports forums if anybody wants to contradict my opinion they are welcome to try ,fraid to say as soon as they resort to silly name calling and insults when they dont have the nous to contradict my opinion ----------- they have lost

Let's cut to the chase shall we. You are not here for any debate, I know what you do and choose not to play your silly games.

You can play that game with your Hamilton hating friends. I have no interest in doing that.

I tried to give you a chance but I won't bother anymore.

New year, same old garbage. It's boring, childish and quite frankly stupid

man unt devil

manx mate --- i will give you all the debate you want on any formula 1 related subject and providing you are civil with me i will show you the same respect -

we are all entitled to our opinions about whatever driver , i have my opinions about every driver from de angelis and mansell in the 80s right up to the current quick boys and i have given my opinions on many , many , different drivers on various forums ,

however ---- for some unfathomable reason whenever i give my honest objective opinion about hamilton it irritates a handful of his infatuated supporters and so follows alot of mindless childish bollox such as we are exchanging now -

this is not my problem manx i am not the bad guy -- we are all entitled to give our opinion about whatever driver we like,

if hamiltons infatuated supporters cant stomache other peoples honest objective opinion about him they really need to take a long hard look at themselves and grow up