Optimistically
(A) Southampton W
(H) Man United W
(A) Wolves W
(A) Aston Villa D
(H) Leeds W
(H) Man City L
(A) Leicester D
(A) Burnley W
(H) Spurs W
(A) West Ham D
21 points
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Realistically
(A) Southampton D
(H) Man United D
(A) Wolves D
(A) Aston Villa L
(H) Leeds W
(H) Man City L
(A) Leicester L
(A) Burnley W
(H) Spurs D
(A) West Ham D
11 points
comment by Lexington 125.2 - Give Reiss A Chance (U8879)
posted 1 minute ago
Ridding the dressing room of the toxic element.
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Xhaka gone as well?
comment by Mi Pelea (U18355)
posted 49 seconds ago
Optimistically
(A) Southampton W
(H) Man United W
(A) Wolves W
(A) Aston Villa D
(H) Leeds W
(H) Man City L
(A) Leicester D
(A) Burnley W
(H) Spurs W
(A) West Ham D
21 points
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Realistically
(A) Southampton D
(H) Man United D
(A) Wolves D
(A) Aston Villa L
(H) Leeds W
(H) Man City L
(A) Leicester L
(A) Burnley W
(H) Spurs D
(A) West Ham D
11 points
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feck off Castor
Charles Watts
@charles_watts
·
36m
By the summer Arsenal will have let go Sanchez, Ramsey, Ozil, Cazorla, Wilshere, Sokratis, Mustafi, Mkhitaryan and Welbeck in the past three years
Money spent on fees: £190m
Money received: £0
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Good point. We have been pathetic with our transfer business.
But Wenger was a transfer genius.
F/ck me. Based purely on his fee alone, Sokratis cost us over £230k per appearance.
What's Wenger got to do with Ramsey, Ozil, Cazorla, Wilshere, Sokratis, Mustafi, Mkhitaryan and Welbeck going for a free?
comment by Jenius99 (U4918)
posted about a minute ago
But Wenger was a transfer genius.
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Did you just tell Wenger to let it go
As far as i can see, Wenger is only responsible for Sanchez.
comment by Jenius99 (U4918)
posted 35 seconds ago
But Wenger was a transfer genius.
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'Well done wob'
-Godfather
comment by Serial WUManiser™© -¯\_(ツ)_/¯ (U1410)
posted 13 seconds ago
What's Wenger got to do with Ramsey, Ozil, Cazorla, Wilshere, Sokratis, Mustafi, Mkhitaryan and Welbeck going for a free?
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Put them on contracts that did not reflect their market worth.
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comment by Lexington 125.2 - Give Reiss A Chance (U8879)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Samir (U2630)
posted 32 seconds ago
In fact, how much have we saved from cancelling Sokratis' contract and Ozil going to Fener on a free transfer? Because there's surely no way they'd have accepted leaving without being given a reasonably hefty pay off.
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Not really only about that though, is it mate?
Ridding the dressing room of the toxic element.
ESR said on Monday night how they players are 'so much more together now'.
That is telling, I'd say.
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How do you know Sokratis was part of the toxic element though Lex? You don't.
One of the guys I follow on Twitter is a regular watcher of the U23s and was saying that Sokratis was really good with the younger players and helped out a lot when he wasn't playing.
Yes there is a toxic element that need to be got rid of. But we can't just lump Sokratis into that group for the sake of it. He was earning £92k a week and wasn't in the matchday squad, so yes, it absolutely was about getting him off the wage bill. I just don't know how much we've saved in doing so.
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Guy is in his 30s, Samir. Probably only has a couple more seasons left in his legs (outside of the Greek league).
Hasn't played regularly for almost a year now.
He might not have been in with Ozil, Kolasinac and Mustafi, but I doubt he was happy with his situation.
comment by Jenius99 (U4918)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by Serial WUManiser™© -¯\_(ツ)_/¯ (U1410)
posted 13 seconds ago
What's Wenger got to do with Ramsey, Ozil, Cazorla, Wilshere, Sokratis, Mustafi, Mkhitaryan and Welbeck going for a free?
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Put them on contracts that did not reflect their market worth.
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Wenger said publicily he had reservations about Ozil's contract size.
Ramsey was on circa £80k. He left after Wenger.
Santi had a very bad injury, so we didn't offer him an extension.
Wilshere wasn't offered anything because of his injuries.
Sokratis was signed by Emery
Only player you've got a point about it Mustafi.
J99 taking shots at Big Papi Wengz for no apparent reason
comment by Lexington 125.2 - Give Reiss A Chance (U8879)
posted 31 seconds ago
Guy is in his 30s, Samir. Probably only has a couple more seasons left in his legs (outside of the Greek league).
Hasn't played regularly for almost a year now.
He might not have been in with Ozil, Kolasinac and Mustafi, but I doubt he was happy with his situation.
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Sure, but not being happy with your situation doesn't equate to being a toxic influence.
To be honest, it doesn't matter now anyway, as he's gone, but it would still help us a lot if we can at least get some money for the players we're offloading, even if the fees are minimal. Better than nothing.
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comment by Serial WUManiser™© -¯\_(ツ)_/¯ (U1410)
posted 4 seconds ago
comment by Jenius99 (U4918)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by Serial WUManiser™© -¯\_(ツ)_/¯ (U1410)
posted 13 seconds ago
What's Wenger got to do with Ramsey, Ozil, Cazorla, Wilshere, Sokratis, Mustafi, Mkhitaryan and Welbeck going for a free?
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Put them on contracts that did not reflect their market worth.
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Wenger said publicily he had reservations about Ozil's contract size.
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Still gave it to him. So no point in pretending otherwise after it backfired.
Ramsey was on circa £80k. He left after Wenger.
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Was offered £250k a week by Wenger before it was pulled by Sanllehi
Wilshere wasn't offered anything because of his injuries.
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Wenger gave him a contract worth £100k a week that he turned down before leaving on a free
Only player you've got a point about it Mustafi.
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Mislintat signed Leno, Sok, Gouen, Torreira etc. and paid the price. No one says a word abt Wenger's poor signing record without David Dein holding his hand. (apart a few in the know)
comment by Serial WUManiser™© -¯\_(ツ)_/¯ (U1410)
posted 9 minutes ago
What's Wenger got to do with Ramsey, Ozil, Cazorla, Wilshere, Sokratis, Mustafi, Mkhitaryan and Welbeck going for a free?
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Apart from Sokratis, quite a lot
Tbh of all the late 20s/30 year olds at the club, which do you think Sokratis was more likely to hang around with?
Not saying he'd have been a ringleader mind.
A fee for him would be totally unrealistic I'd say. It's way better this way.
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posted on 20/1/21
Optimistically
(A) Southampton W
(H) Man United W
(A) Wolves W
(A) Aston Villa D
(H) Leeds W
(H) Man City L
(A) Leicester D
(A) Burnley W
(H) Spurs W
(A) West Ham D
21 points
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Realistically
(A) Southampton D
(H) Man United D
(A) Wolves D
(A) Aston Villa L
(H) Leeds W
(H) Man City L
(A) Leicester L
(A) Burnley W
(H) Spurs D
(A) West Ham D
11 points
posted on 20/1/21
comment by Lexington 125.2 - Give Reiss A Chance (U8879)
posted 1 minute ago
Ridding the dressing room of the toxic element.
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Xhaka gone as well?
posted on 20/1/21
comment by Mi Pelea (U18355)
posted 49 seconds ago
Optimistically
(A) Southampton W
(H) Man United W
(A) Wolves W
(A) Aston Villa D
(H) Leeds W
(H) Man City L
(A) Leicester D
(A) Burnley W
(H) Spurs W
(A) West Ham D
21 points
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Realistically
(A) Southampton D
(H) Man United D
(A) Wolves D
(A) Aston Villa L
(H) Leeds W
(H) Man City L
(A) Leicester L
(A) Burnley W
(H) Spurs D
(A) West Ham D
11 points
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posted on 20/1/21
Charles Watts
@charles_watts
·
36m
By the summer Arsenal will have let go Sanchez, Ramsey, Ozil, Cazorla, Wilshere, Sokratis, Mustafi, Mkhitaryan and Welbeck in the past three years
Money spent on fees: £190m
Money received: £0
--------------------------
Good point. We have been pathetic with our transfer business.
posted on 20/1/21
But Wenger was a transfer genius.
posted on 20/1/21
F/ck me. Based purely on his fee alone, Sokratis cost us over £230k per appearance.
posted on 20/1/21
What's Wenger got to do with Ramsey, Ozil, Cazorla, Wilshere, Sokratis, Mustafi, Mkhitaryan and Welbeck going for a free?
posted on 20/1/21
comment by Jenius99 (U4918)
posted about a minute ago
But Wenger was a transfer genius.
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Did you just tell Wenger to let it go
posted on 20/1/21
As far as i can see, Wenger is only responsible for Sanchez.
posted on 20/1/21
"let it go ffs"
posted on 20/1/21
comment by Jenius99 (U4918)
posted 35 seconds ago
But Wenger was a transfer genius.
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'Well done wob'
-Godfather
posted on 20/1/21
comment by Serial WUManiser™© -¯\_(ツ)_/¯ (U1410)
posted 13 seconds ago
What's Wenger got to do with Ramsey, Ozil, Cazorla, Wilshere, Sokratis, Mustafi, Mkhitaryan and Welbeck going for a free?
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Put them on contracts that did not reflect their market worth.
posted on 20/1/21
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posted on 20/1/21
comment by Lexington 125.2 - Give Reiss A Chance (U8879)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Samir (U2630)
posted 32 seconds ago
In fact, how much have we saved from cancelling Sokratis' contract and Ozil going to Fener on a free transfer? Because there's surely no way they'd have accepted leaving without being given a reasonably hefty pay off.
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Not really only about that though, is it mate?
Ridding the dressing room of the toxic element.
ESR said on Monday night how they players are 'so much more together now'.
That is telling, I'd say.
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How do you know Sokratis was part of the toxic element though Lex? You don't.
One of the guys I follow on Twitter is a regular watcher of the U23s and was saying that Sokratis was really good with the younger players and helped out a lot when he wasn't playing.
Yes there is a toxic element that need to be got rid of. But we can't just lump Sokratis into that group for the sake of it. He was earning £92k a week and wasn't in the matchday squad, so yes, it absolutely was about getting him off the wage bill. I just don't know how much we've saved in doing so.
posted on 20/1/21
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posted on 20/1/21
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posted on 20/1/21
Guy is in his 30s, Samir. Probably only has a couple more seasons left in his legs (outside of the Greek league).
Hasn't played regularly for almost a year now.
He might not have been in with Ozil, Kolasinac and Mustafi, but I doubt he was happy with his situation.
posted on 20/1/21
comment by Jenius99 (U4918)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by Serial WUManiser™© -¯\_(ツ)_/¯ (U1410)
posted 13 seconds ago
What's Wenger got to do with Ramsey, Ozil, Cazorla, Wilshere, Sokratis, Mustafi, Mkhitaryan and Welbeck going for a free?
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Put them on contracts that did not reflect their market worth.
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Wenger said publicily he had reservations about Ozil's contract size.
Ramsey was on circa £80k. He left after Wenger.
Santi had a very bad injury, so we didn't offer him an extension.
Wilshere wasn't offered anything because of his injuries.
Sokratis was signed by Emery
Only player you've got a point about it Mustafi.
posted on 20/1/21
J99 taking shots at Big Papi Wengz for no apparent reason
posted on 20/1/21
Let it go ffseebs
posted on 20/1/21
comment by Lexington 125.2 - Give Reiss A Chance (U8879)
posted 31 seconds ago
Guy is in his 30s, Samir. Probably only has a couple more seasons left in his legs (outside of the Greek league).
Hasn't played regularly for almost a year now.
He might not have been in with Ozil, Kolasinac and Mustafi, but I doubt he was happy with his situation.
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Sure, but not being happy with your situation doesn't equate to being a toxic influence.
To be honest, it doesn't matter now anyway, as he's gone, but it would still help us a lot if we can at least get some money for the players we're offloading, even if the fees are minimal. Better than nothing.
posted on 20/1/21
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posted on 20/1/21
comment by Serial WUManiser™© -¯\_(ツ)_/¯ (U1410)
posted 4 seconds ago
comment by Jenius99 (U4918)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by Serial WUManiser™© -¯\_(ツ)_/¯ (U1410)
posted 13 seconds ago
What's Wenger got to do with Ramsey, Ozil, Cazorla, Wilshere, Sokratis, Mustafi, Mkhitaryan and Welbeck going for a free?
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Put them on contracts that did not reflect their market worth.
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Wenger said publicily he had reservations about Ozil's contract size.
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Still gave it to him. So no point in pretending otherwise after it backfired.
Ramsey was on circa £80k. He left after Wenger.
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Was offered £250k a week by Wenger before it was pulled by Sanllehi
Wilshere wasn't offered anything because of his injuries.
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Wenger gave him a contract worth £100k a week that he turned down before leaving on a free
Only player you've got a point about it Mustafi.
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Mislintat signed Leno, Sok, Gouen, Torreira etc. and paid the price. No one says a word abt Wenger's poor signing record without David Dein holding his hand. (apart a few in the know)
posted on 20/1/21
comment by Serial WUManiser™© -¯\_(ツ)_/¯ (U1410)
posted 9 minutes ago
What's Wenger got to do with Ramsey, Ozil, Cazorla, Wilshere, Sokratis, Mustafi, Mkhitaryan and Welbeck going for a free?
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Apart from Sokratis, quite a lot
posted on 20/1/21
Tbh of all the late 20s/30 year olds at the club, which do you think Sokratis was more likely to hang around with?
Not saying he'd have been a ringleader mind.
A fee for him would be totally unrealistic I'd say. It's way better this way.
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