I see many articles and comments slating Chicharito as being only a finisher (mostly Arsenal fans
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Best ignored
I really dont get the slating, in a real team a good team a world class team you need your defenders to defend your midfield to control possession and supply the strike force with good balls and the strikers to do finish chances. Chicharito does his job and honestly if we had a solid Midfield one that is world class he would start far more games than he is doing now.
Usually players that are good finishers are capable of curling a shot round the keeper from distance and not having 95% of your goals come from 2 yard headers and tap ins
He's the Mexican Michael Owen.
I wouldn't really say he's a great finisher. He's an incredible goal poacher - still an invaluable skill in itself. His movement in the box is unbelievable.
I wouldn't really say he's a great finisher. He's an incredible goal poacher - still an invaluable skill in itself. His movement in the box is unbelievable.
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How is he not a great finisher, he is the most efficient striker in the EPL. I hope this is not about needing him to score magnificent goals, because a striker must score ugly or pretty and Chicharito does just that.
"How is he not a great finisher, he is the most efficient striker in the EPL. "
Being efficient doesn't make you a good finisher it makes you a good poacher
How is he not a great finisher, he is the most efficient striker in the EPL. I hope this is not about needing him to score magnificent goals, because a striker must score ugly or pretty and Chicharito does just that.
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He's not a player I would back to finish any half chance that falls to him, like say a RVN. His shooting technique is pretty unorthodox and not that great.
What bags him so many goals is his movement and instinct. He seems to know exactly where the ball is going to drop in the box. As I said, it's incredible.
This is not a criticism of him. Just an observation.
I dont get it, the ability to poach is turning half chances into goals, RvP is a player capable of spectacular finishes but being a great finisher means making most of the chances that you have. Efficiency means great finisher because you are taking advantage of your chances, you are finishing
"Efficiency means great finisher"
No it means you're a great poacher stop confusing these things
comment by Quachett (U15228)
posted 9 minutes ago
I wouldn't really say he's a great finisher. He's an incredible goal poacher - still an invaluable skill in itself. His movement in the box is unbelievable.
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How is he not a great finisher, he is the most efficient striker in the EPL. I hope this is not about needing him to score magnificent goals, because a striker must score ugly or pretty and Chicharito does just that.
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Don't know why people cannot accept what they see. Give chicarito the job pushing the ball in one direction before getting a shot off and it might as well be wasted. I remember in the Chelsea game, he pushed the ball into space only to completely miss the shot, in the box. Quite frankly what he wants is to one touch the ball into the net most preferably with his head. This is a fact. This player will not not thrive in a counter attack, or a passing team which wants linking up. Only one style suits him which we do play against poor teams or when we are behind. This is the only time I think he should be used.
Just think a player should do more than "his duty". Defenders should be able do more than kick the ball out, midfielders should do more than passing/creating eetc
"No it means you're a great poacher stop confusing these things"
Im not confusing them, finishing means taking advantage of your chances, its like in sales, one that makes the most deals out of the available bids is the best sales man. Same as goal scorers the most great finisher means the most efficient.
Like I said its not about the spectacle of the finish its about scoring, Chicharito score 1 in 4 chances RvP 1 in 7
You honestly don't understand at all
Don't know why people cannot accept what they see. Give chicarito the job pushing the ball in one direction before getting a shot off and it might as well be wasted. I remember in the Chelsea game, he pushed the ball into space only to completely miss the shot, in the box. Quite frankly what he wants is to one touch the ball into the net most preferably with his head. This is a fact. This player will not not thrive in a counter attack, or a passing team which wants linking up. Only one style suits him which we do play against poor teams or when we are behind. This is the only time I think he should be used.
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using one example is not conclusive evidence, he has scored goals when he has taken a pass, Chelsea in the Capital one cup, Aston Villa in the EPL, Arsenal in the EPL. the majority of his goal are one touch yes but he has converted chances when he has controlled a pass
Usually players that are good finishers are capable of curling a shot round the keeper from distance
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Yea, like his goal that sealed the league against Chelsea in 10/11....... what a peach of a goal, thanks for reminding me
"Yea, like his goal that sealed the league against Chelsea in 10/11....... what a peach of a goal, thanks for reminding me
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A shame the amazing finisher Hernandez was incapable of staying onside in the CL final though
err... good come back.
Chico has scored a variety of goals against Chelsea... Including shots from distance. Which addresses your point.
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Hernandez' finishing is outrageously overrated; an opinion I've maintained for some time. Like bloodred and tomatoes say, he is a brilliant poacher with some of the best movement you will see in a forward, but his technique is very unorthodox, and his finishing isn't as varied or refined as I would like. He would be better if he improved his overall technique, and would be more likely to score goals that take more than one touch inside the box. Rooney, for example is a much better finisher and has proven so with a variety of pull backs, nutmegs, scuffs, curlers and power shots into the corners. Hernandez is quite simply the better mover, therefore gets unmissable chances on a plate.
If we had to pick a player to score in a 1 vs 1 out of our four strikers I would pick Rooney all day long. Not Hernandez.
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posted on 6/4/13
I see many articles and comments slating Chicharito as being only a finisher (mostly Arsenal fans
..
Best ignored
posted on 6/4/13
I really dont get the slating, in a real team a good team a world class team you need your defenders to defend your midfield to control possession and supply the strike force with good balls and the strikers to do finish chances. Chicharito does his job and honestly if we had a solid Midfield one that is world class he would start far more games than he is doing now.
posted on 6/4/13
Usually players that are good finishers are capable of curling a shot round the keeper from distance and not having 95% of your goals come from 2 yard headers and tap ins
posted on 6/4/13
He's the Mexican Michael Owen.
posted on 6/4/13
I wouldn't really say he's a great finisher. He's an incredible goal poacher - still an invaluable skill in itself. His movement in the box is unbelievable.
posted on 6/4/13
I wouldn't really say he's a great finisher. He's an incredible goal poacher - still an invaluable skill in itself. His movement in the box is unbelievable.
_______________________________________________
How is he not a great finisher, he is the most efficient striker in the EPL. I hope this is not about needing him to score magnificent goals, because a striker must score ugly or pretty and Chicharito does just that.
posted on 6/4/13
"How is he not a great finisher, he is the most efficient striker in the EPL. "
Being efficient doesn't make you a good finisher it makes you a good poacher
posted on 6/4/13
How is he not a great finisher, he is the most efficient striker in the EPL. I hope this is not about needing him to score magnificent goals, because a striker must score ugly or pretty and Chicharito does just that.
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He's not a player I would back to finish any half chance that falls to him, like say a RVN. His shooting technique is pretty unorthodox and not that great.
What bags him so many goals is his movement and instinct. He seems to know exactly where the ball is going to drop in the box. As I said, it's incredible.
This is not a criticism of him. Just an observation.
posted on 6/4/13
I dont get it, the ability to poach is turning half chances into goals, RvP is a player capable of spectacular finishes but being a great finisher means making most of the chances that you have. Efficiency means great finisher because you are taking advantage of your chances, you are finishing
posted on 6/4/13
"Efficiency means great finisher"
No it means you're a great poacher stop confusing these things
posted on 6/4/13
comment by Quachett (U15228)
posted 9 minutes ago
I wouldn't really say he's a great finisher. He's an incredible goal poacher - still an invaluable skill in itself. His movement in the box is unbelievable.
_______________________________________________
How is he not a great finisher, he is the most efficient striker in the EPL. I hope this is not about needing him to score magnificent goals, because a striker must score ugly or pretty and Chicharito does just that.
•••••••••
Don't know why people cannot accept what they see. Give chicarito the job pushing the ball in one direction before getting a shot off and it might as well be wasted. I remember in the Chelsea game, he pushed the ball into space only to completely miss the shot, in the box. Quite frankly what he wants is to one touch the ball into the net most preferably with his head. This is a fact. This player will not not thrive in a counter attack, or a passing team which wants linking up. Only one style suits him which we do play against poor teams or when we are behind. This is the only time I think he should be used.
Just think a player should do more than "his duty". Defenders should be able do more than kick the ball out, midfielders should do more than passing/creating eetc
posted on 6/4/13
"No it means you're a great poacher stop confusing these things"
Im not confusing them, finishing means taking advantage of your chances, its like in sales, one that makes the most deals out of the available bids is the best sales man. Same as goal scorers the most great finisher means the most efficient.
Like I said its not about the spectacle of the finish its about scoring, Chicharito score 1 in 4 chances RvP 1 in 7
posted on 6/4/13
You honestly don't understand at all
posted on 6/4/13
Don't know why people cannot accept what they see. Give chicarito the job pushing the ball in one direction before getting a shot off and it might as well be wasted. I remember in the Chelsea game, he pushed the ball into space only to completely miss the shot, in the box. Quite frankly what he wants is to one touch the ball into the net most preferably with his head. This is a fact. This player will not not thrive in a counter attack, or a passing team which wants linking up. Only one style suits him which we do play against poor teams or when we are behind. This is the only time I think he should be used.
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using one example is not conclusive evidence, he has scored goals when he has taken a pass, Chelsea in the Capital one cup, Aston Villa in the EPL, Arsenal in the EPL. the majority of his goal are one touch yes but he has converted chances when he has controlled a pass
posted on 6/4/13
Usually players that are good finishers are capable of curling a shot round the keeper from distance
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Yea, like his goal that sealed the league against Chelsea in 10/11....... what a peach of a goal, thanks for reminding me
posted on 6/4/13
"Yea, like his goal that sealed the league against Chelsea in 10/11....... what a peach of a goal, thanks for reminding me
"
A shame the amazing finisher Hernandez was incapable of staying onside in the CL final though
posted on 6/4/13
err... good come back.
Chico has scored a variety of goals against Chelsea... Including shots from distance. Which addresses your point.
posted on 6/4/13
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posted on 6/4/13
Hernandez' finishing is outrageously overrated; an opinion I've maintained for some time. Like bloodred and tomatoes say, he is a brilliant poacher with some of the best movement you will see in a forward, but his technique is very unorthodox, and his finishing isn't as varied or refined as I would like. He would be better if he improved his overall technique, and would be more likely to score goals that take more than one touch inside the box. Rooney, for example is a much better finisher and has proven so with a variety of pull backs, nutmegs, scuffs, curlers and power shots into the corners. Hernandez is quite simply the better mover, therefore gets unmissable chances on a plate.
If we had to pick a player to score in a 1 vs 1 out of our four strikers I would pick Rooney all day long. Not Hernandez.
posted on 6/4/13
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