where do the FA's priorities lie? not trying to defend Suarez but it's ridiculous that he gets a 10 game ban for biting while acts of downright thuggery like Aguero on Luiz and the Macmanaman (spelling?) tackle go unpunished

Click, what about the countless elbows to side of the head and kicks to the head that go unpunished yet a bite gets a 10 game ban.

jlou1978 (U15376)

I'm not saying the FA shouldn't be criticised, or that you're not entitled to your views.

It's just that the volume of posts and articles about how unfair you deem it to be is, I think, over the top.

I think it just gives off the perception that you can come out of this as the mistreated party, when it all stems from your player doing something wrong.

I think the 'unfairness' of the punishment is minor, to be frank.

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Mr C - I agree with you to a degree but I kind of see the difference as well (if that makes sense)

I dont mean suarez now, but I just think that although nasty and dirty you can kind od see the tackling, leaving a foot in, arms leading when jumping for a header and my particular ''does my head'' moment the ''obvious'' foot in the air followed by an apology to say it was an accident

But biting? thats like a boxer kneeing the opponent in the groin

RedReason wtf are you talking about?

The mistreated party, is football generally, due to the inept nature of the people running it.
If these articles you speak of where in regard to making excuses for Suarez, or saying biting generally isn't important, or deserving of a lengthy ban, then I would join you in your perception.
But perceptions are quite lazy, and can easily be changed by simply reading what is written, before reaching conclusions.
No matter what you perceive as being 'fair', in terms of a ban, the vast majority of articles written on this matter refer more to the FA's way of going about things, than it does about the length of the ban.

Well the fact is I was one of the millions who watched it and Suarez DEFINATELY bit Ivanovic

As for the other stuff, it was in relation to what you said not the FA or what they can/cant do
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Yes it was in relation to what I said, it's wrong, hence why I said it. You're wrong, they didn't use previous, they couldn't.

"Except this time maybe they got it right?"

Whether they got it right or not is irrelevant. This thread is highlighting the FA and how its inadequate. As I said before, it wouldn't be so bad if they used previous cases as precedant but they don't, they make it up again.

RedReason, you've joined the rambling people who just talk but don't actually know what they're talking about.

Anyone thinking its not about the individual involved is being naive

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personally think it SHOULD be about the individual involved

Dont think this about just suarez either before I get grief. Its like shearer with his constant leading with elbows or from my own team the scholes tackles that got laughed off.

TOOR - as usual it wasnt any point talking to you as this is what it always boils down to

Like suarez havent learnt my lesson

Anyone thinking its not about the individual involved is being naive

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personally think it SHOULD be about the individual involved

Dont think this about just suarez either before I get grief. Its like shearer with his constant leading with elbows or from my own team the scholes tackles that got laughed off.

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I agree so for the FA to state that it was not...is rediculous but an attempt to look impartial to the masses

comment by RedReason (U5677) posted 1 minute ago
TOOR - as usual it wasnt any point talking to you as this is what it always boils down to

Like suarez havent learnt my lesson
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Yep - it always boils down to you just talking for the sake of it, without actually knowing what you're talking about and me pointing it out, then you whining about it. Perhaps sometime, you'll actually get a knowledge of what you're talking about and whilst taking your time, think about what you're going to say, what opinion you have to add to the topic and then display it.

scouse heart - I have no issue with the view that the FA are k oon ts.

IMHO I thought the ban was fair enough and we should move on.

If anything I think anyone to do likewise should be treated even more severely

comment by scouse-heart (U3234) posted 3 minutes ago
Anyone thinking its not about the individual involved is being naive

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personally think it SHOULD be about the individual involved

Dont think this about just suarez either before I get grief. Its like shearer with his constant leading with elbows or from my own team the scholes tackles that got laughed off.

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I agree so for the FA to state that it was not...is rediculous but an attempt to look impartial to the masses
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Not really. The FA can't use incidents not under their jurisdiction as previous, leaving only one incident, the racial abuse incident as previous but something they again couldn't use as it was unrelated and thus not water tight, meaning an appeal would have had a chance of being successful.

Yep - it always boils down to you just talking for the sake of it, without actually knowing what you're talking about and me pointing it out, then you whining about it. Perhaps sometime, you'll actually get a knowledge of what you're talking about and whilst taking your time, think about what you're going to say, what opinion you have to add to the topic and then display it.

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maybe you will grow up one day, maybe you will see its not all a conspiracy, maybe you will address whole posts and not take snippets..............

we all live in hope

Regarding the lack of punishment for Defoe's bite in comparison to Suarez, I'm of the view that just because the FA acted incorrectly in the past and didn't give Defoe a ban, that doesn't meant that they shouldn't take the right action this time.

In a more general sense, I feel that the FA are really hung up on not undermining their referees publicly - to some extent this is a good thing, as it reinforces their authority on the pitch, but their self imposed rule (nothing to do with FIFA btw) that once a referee has made a judgement on the pitch, there can be no retrospective action, is ridiculous.

Also punishments for dangerous tackles definitely need to be addressed.

jlou1978 (U15376)

Fair enough, I'm not expecting you to necessarily agree, just making a point.

This isn't a criticism of just Liverpool fans, but it happens to be an incident involving a Liverpool player.

I think to some, it feels as if some Liverpool fans stated once that Suarez was wrong, so that gives them freedom to complain about how unfair the ban is for days and days.

Like it or not, that will give the perception that you're trying to spin this round into a 'poor Luis Suarez' and 'poor LFC' situation.

Winston - I think most fans tend to do that in any given situation so LFC fans are no different.

With suarez it is a combination of ''villain of the moment'' in terms of media and opposition fans and IMO the fact is that the guy doesnt help himself. If he isnt doing something on the pitch there are comments in his home press attributed to him. Its just putting negative light on the club and manager

He needs to do a cantona, bad boy to voilent conduct to using the ban to do some charity work and returning by doing his talking on te pitch

I think winston that all fans want to see all players, no matter who they are or their past misdemeanours,dealt with on a level footing
That simply isn't the case at the moment

comment by RedReason (U5677) posted 13 minutes ago
Yep - it always boils down to you just talking for the sake of it, without actually knowing what you're talking about and me pointing it out, then you whining about it. Perhaps sometime, you'll actually get a knowledge of what you're talking about and whilst taking your time, think about what you're going to say, what opinion you have to add to the topic and then display it.

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maybe you will grow up one day, maybe you will see its not all a conspiracy, maybe you will address whole posts and not take snippets..............

we all live in hope
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I don't think you not knowing what you're talking about and me pointing it out is something childish, in fact, I'd say it's the opposite.

All I ask is thatyou gain a bit of knowledge of the subject and hand and think about what you add to it. It's something we should all do. Too many people on here just talk and you're as guilty as most.

comment by Paulpowersleftfoot (U1037) posted 5 minutes ago
I think winston that all fans want to see all players, no matter who they are or their past misdemeanours,dealt with on a level footing
That simply isn't the case at the moment
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Exactly and if some idiots want to take that as meaning you're defending the actions of a player in the wrong, that that's their problem. Dannyjeeves makes a habit of posting a neutral paragraph followed by a little attack paragraph and somehow thinks this is fine.

RedReason (U5677)

I did say it wasn't aimed at LFC

I think you're right. Suarez has brought a lot of this on himself, and those that say he needs this side of his game to be the player he is are talking rubbish.

Cantona came back from his ban a quiet character, rarely involved in any trouble, yet was a superb footballer still.

Paulpowersleftfoot (U1037)

I agree that there's an issue with the punishments, but I think fans would moan whatever the outcome!

With football, I don't believe you can have set punishments for every possible offence, and there will always be some disagreement.

But I think the FA are wrong on this occasion, as they've not remotely justified their decision.

I find that some other posters are not reading whats being written and jumping up with mock outrage to our 'defence' of Suarez..

when actually no one is defending him, plenty (including me are angry with him) but im also astounded how the FA can keep getting it wrong!

comment by Winston (U16525) posted 4 minutes ago
RedReason (U5677)

I did say it wasn't aimed at LFC

I think you're right. Suarez has brought a lot of this on himself, and those that say he needs this side of his game to be the player he is are talking rubbish.

Cantona came back from his ban a quiet character, rarely involved in any trouble, yet was a superb footballer still.
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Rooney is a quit chatactor and now is half the player.