Yeah, I remember the weird tale about his vomitting before and during many matches which has mystified doctors. They can't tell if it's a physical or psychological issue.
In any case, I think he'll look back with some regret at this tournament. He hasn't brought his best football when the team have needed it most. It hasn't eroded his legacy but it hasn't enhanced it either.
Anyways, gotta call it a night.
comment by b10 (U18580)
posted 11 hours, 59 minutes ago
to be frank if you think Muller played better than Messi you are an idiot.
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Did Messi play?
I didn't notice
Messi shouldn't even be in a top 10, never mind the winner
Utter joke
comment by Sheriff John Brown - bring back David Dein (U7482)
posted 11 hours, 29 minutes ago
Does anyone know how the voting system goes? Is it a little like the Ballon D'or, with Lionel Messi's name in it twice?
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You mean the Ballon D'Or which FIFA manipulated last year, to make sure Ronaldo won
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If you think Messi deserved it, you need to go have a lie down
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 10 hours, 27 minutes ago
I really wish some of you could see beyond attacking players for once.
Schweinsteiger and Mascherano were the players of the tournament for me.
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This is what annoys me too
What about defenders and goal keepers. There's been some excellent keeper performances this WC
Macca
You mst not say anything against Messi to the Arsenal kids, they think he is in some way associated with their club.
comment by itsonlyagame - Gracias, Don Alfredo (U6426)
posted 7 hours, 44 minutes ago
Messi might outdo Maradona in terms of achievements and acknowledgements, but he'll never play like him. Sometimes I get the feeling I'm a nostalgic, but I just spent the last hour or so watching brief individual highlights from each of the Argies' matches in '86. He'd do things every game you just don't see anyone do. And the variety is quite astonishing.
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comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 8 minutes ago
Macca
You mst not say anything against Messi to the Arsenal kids, they think he is in some way associated with their club.
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VC
I've been saying for a couple of years now that Messi is a lazy
He does have brilliant ability obviously but he simply wouldn't look as good without 2 of the best midfielders I have ever seen playing behind him.
Best player ever? Not even close for me
comment by Shinjisshin (U1700)
posted 11 hours, 19 minutes ago
I haven't read all comments so I apologise in advance to anyone who has, but it's a shame nobody puts Keepers or defenders up top of their lists
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I said the above comment last night. I guess we'll never change it - attackers always take the accolades
comment by Shinjisshin (U1700)
posted 26 minutes ago
comment by Shinjisshin (U1700)
posted 11 hours, 19 minutes ago
I haven't read all comments so I apologise in advance to anyone who has, but it's a shame nobody puts Keepers or defenders up top of their lists
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I said the above comment last night. I guess we'll never change it - attackers always take the accolades
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Particularly ones that dribble
Interestingly though, this century he've Kahn and Cannavaro winning the World Cup Golden Ball. Haven't glanced back through the history of the tournament, but I'd be very surprised if 2 out of 4 wasn't a much higher proportion than in the 20th century.
to be fair Kahn while brilliant in 2002 made the big c.ockup in the final, you have to judge these things in the big moments aswell as overall performance in the tournaments, Ronaldo or Rivaldo should have won it in 2002
I'd have given it to Ronaldo every day of the year, but that doesn't detract from the fact that the keeper got recognition.
Not sure how it worked in '02, but I do seem to recall that in one of the recent tournaments the Golden Ball had already been chosen before the final, which is pretty ridiculous imo.
Some common sense on the issue.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/28294339
Blatter and common sense mix together like oil and water though. He's pretty shameless tbh.
Even though he's declared his preference for Messi in the past, he's actually an honorary 'socio' of Real Madrid. Never hidden his admiration for Di Stefano and the fact he's supported them since his youth.
More for Maradonnas comments than Blatter.
Schweinsteiger dont deserve the golden ball. There were many player better than him in the WC, It wasnt even his best WC. He played much better in the last WC.
He do have Messi's no though. I dont think messi ever had a good game against him, Certainly not since he owned messi in the last WC.
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 11 minutes ago
More for Maradonnas comments than Blatter.
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Maradona's the don.
Luke, do agree Schweini stood out more in 2010, but the impression is he played deeper here than in S.A.
Schweinsteiger played in a deeper role in the last WC as well but he had the license to make forward runs more often. Thats what I really like about Schweiny, He doesnt bomb forward often but when he do, he always have an impact.
Would love to have him at united, Best CM in the world imo
My memory isn't all that good, but didn't he also have the main playmaking role in CM though (with Ozil further up the pitch of course)? I don't just remember him for getting into attacking positions more, but also for dictating the play. Think Kroos played or at least shared that role with him in Brazil.
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posted on 14/7/14
Yeah, I remember the weird tale about his vomitting before and during many matches which has mystified doctors. They can't tell if it's a physical or psychological issue.
In any case, I think he'll look back with some regret at this tournament. He hasn't brought his best football when the team have needed it most. It hasn't eroded his legacy but it hasn't enhanced it either.
posted on 14/7/14
Anyways, gotta call it a night.
posted on 14/7/14
Night mate.
posted on 14/7/14
comment by b10 (U18580)
posted 11 hours, 59 minutes ago
to be frank if you think Muller played better than Messi you are an idiot.
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Did Messi play?
I didn't notice
Messi shouldn't even be in a top 10, never mind the winner
Utter joke
posted on 14/7/14
comment by Sheriff John Brown - bring back David Dein (U7482)
posted 11 hours, 29 minutes ago
Does anyone know how the voting system goes? Is it a little like the Ballon D'or, with Lionel Messi's name in it twice?
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You mean the Ballon D'Or which FIFA manipulated last year, to make sure Ronaldo won
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If you think Messi deserved it, you need to go have a lie down
posted on 14/7/14
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 10 hours, 27 minutes ago
I really wish some of you could see beyond attacking players for once.
Schweinsteiger and Mascherano were the players of the tournament for me.
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This is what annoys me too
What about defenders and goal keepers. There's been some excellent keeper performances this WC
posted on 14/7/14
Macca
You mst not say anything against Messi to the Arsenal kids, they think he is in some way associated with their club.
posted on 14/7/14
comment by itsonlyagame - Gracias, Don Alfredo (U6426)
posted 7 hours, 44 minutes ago
Messi might outdo Maradona in terms of achievements and acknowledgements, but he'll never play like him. Sometimes I get the feeling I'm a nostalgic, but I just spent the last hour or so watching brief individual highlights from each of the Argies' matches in '86. He'd do things every game you just don't see anyone do. And the variety is quite astonishing.
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posted on 14/7/14
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 8 minutes ago
Macca
You mst not say anything against Messi to the Arsenal kids, they think he is in some way associated with their club.
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VC
I've been saying for a couple of years now that Messi is a lazy
He does have brilliant ability obviously but he simply wouldn't look as good without 2 of the best midfielders I have ever seen playing behind him.
Best player ever? Not even close for me
posted on 14/7/14
comment by Shinjisshin (U1700)
posted 11 hours, 19 minutes ago
I haven't read all comments so I apologise in advance to anyone who has, but it's a shame nobody puts Keepers or defenders up top of their lists
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I said the above comment last night. I guess we'll never change it - attackers always take the accolades
posted on 14/7/14
comment by Shinjisshin (U1700)
posted 26 minutes ago
comment by Shinjisshin (U1700)
posted 11 hours, 19 minutes ago
I haven't read all comments so I apologise in advance to anyone who has, but it's a shame nobody puts Keepers or defenders up top of their lists
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I said the above comment last night. I guess we'll never change it - attackers always take the accolades
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Particularly ones that dribble
posted on 14/7/14
Interestingly though, this century he've Kahn and Cannavaro winning the World Cup Golden Ball. Haven't glanced back through the history of the tournament, but I'd be very surprised if 2 out of 4 wasn't a much higher proportion than in the 20th century.
posted on 14/7/14
to be fair Kahn while brilliant in 2002 made the big c.ockup in the final, you have to judge these things in the big moments aswell as overall performance in the tournaments, Ronaldo or Rivaldo should have won it in 2002
posted on 14/7/14
I'd have given it to Ronaldo every day of the year, but that doesn't detract from the fact that the keeper got recognition.
Not sure how it worked in '02, but I do seem to recall that in one of the recent tournaments the Golden Ball had already been chosen before the final, which is pretty ridiculous imo.
posted on 14/7/14
Some common sense on the issue.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/28294339
posted on 14/7/14
Blatter and common sense mix together like oil and water though. He's pretty shameless tbh.
Even though he's declared his preference for Messi in the past, he's actually an honorary 'socio' of Real Madrid. Never hidden his admiration for Di Stefano and the fact he's supported them since his youth.
posted on 14/7/14
More for Maradonnas comments than Blatter.
posted on 14/7/14
Schweinsteiger dont deserve the golden ball. There were many player better than him in the WC, It wasnt even his best WC. He played much better in the last WC.
posted on 14/7/14
He do have Messi's no though. I dont think messi ever had a good game against him, Certainly not since he owned messi in the last WC.
posted on 14/7/14
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 11 minutes ago
More for Maradonnas comments than Blatter.
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Maradona's the don.
Luke, do agree Schweini stood out more in 2010, but the impression is he played deeper here than in S.A.
posted on 14/7/14
Schweinsteiger played in a deeper role in the last WC as well but he had the license to make forward runs more often. Thats what I really like about Schweiny, He doesnt bomb forward often but when he do, he always have an impact.
Would love to have him at united, Best CM in the world imo
posted on 15/7/14
My memory isn't all that good, but didn't he also have the main playmaking role in CM though (with Ozil further up the pitch of course)? I don't just remember him for getting into attacking positions more, but also for dictating the play. Think Kroos played or at least shared that role with him in Brazil.
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