That said, I do expect that we will find a way to navigate such great distances. Perhaps quantum physics will be exploited to allow the components of our bodies to separate and then come back together? More likely, cryogenics will be mastered such that we can freeze a human and thaw them in time to reach distant planetary systems. Who knows, but I'm gutted that I won't find out :'-(
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Space travel? Meh. Utterly pointless.
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I can't take your point seriously, as you like tennis.
Haha, we will have killed ourselves before we have the technology, i just hope we dont take the rest of the planet out with us.
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I actually think we have seen aliens in space but the government is keeping it under wraps
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Where'd you get that tin hat? Can you let me know where to get one myself?
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Aliens exist.So is it that crazy to think we have bumped into one or two? I think not.
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I agree wholeheartedly that other living beings exist, don't get me twisted on that.
However, there are many requirements for our government to have been in contact with said beings.
Firstly, these beings would have had to get to our planet specifically. Now, I'm not sure if you actually have a grasp as to how big the Universe is but all of the stars you can see at night are (more or less) equal to the size of our Sun. You notice that the brightest one you can see is a mere pinprick - the distance is HUGE. Why would these beings come directly to our planet when there are billions of other planets? Secondly, you are presuming that the other beings in our Universe are sophisticated enough to develop space travel machines. Why do you presume that "aliens" are much more advanced than us technologically? Perhaps they are, but to travel these distances and happen to find our planet? I don't think so.
Finally, the "government have been in contact but keep it under wraps"? Come on....
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I wasn't suggesting for a moment that the "aliens" would be green men in flying saucers. I was actually making the point that yes, most likely other life forms would be simple bacteria or plants.
Yes, NASA have sent probes past Pluto - but do you know how close Pluto is to us?
In all likelihood (not a certainty, but close) any living form would have to be on a planet within the "Goldilocks" zone in a solar system. Now, bearing in mind that a solar system is a collection of planets orbiting a star and, going back to what I said earlier, how far away our nearest star is it is incredibly unlikely that any probes or what have you will reach another planetary system, with a planet that happens to be in the Goldilocks zone and is not only capable of supporting life, but actually has life is minimal.
More likely there are planets, perhaps even with life forms like ourselves, billions of light years away in galaxies we can see but have no hope (yet) of actually reaching.
So, I really, really doubt that our government is aware of already existing life forms elsewhere. Also, the guys that find these things or review data from probes are scientists - they get their kicks by finding things out and reporting it to the world.
Gervinho has a forehead of the predator, aliens confirmed.
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How can you make contact with a bacterium?
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More likely there are planets, perhaps even with life forms like ourselves, billions of light years away in galaxies we can see but have no hope (yet) of actually reaching.
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billions of light years?
travelling that distance from one point to the next won't ever be possible.
it would take LIGHT 1 billion years to travel that far and unless we can go 1 million times the speed of light, that isn't gonna happen, not that our bodies could support it anyway.
thats why wormholes or something similar MUST exist, otherwise, whats the point in space if its there to just ..... be....... and not to be explored fully?
According to Drake's Equation, when we look into the night sky, there should be 4 other intelligent civilisations given the astronomical number of stars in our galaxy ~20 billion.
A good way to see the stars is here (real photography):
http://media.skysurvey.org/interactive360/index.html
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posted 15 hours, 33 minutes ago
More likely there are planets, perhaps even with life forms like ourselves, billions of light years away in galaxies we can see but have no hope (yet) of actually reaching.
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billions of light years?
travelling that distance from one point to the next won't ever be possible.
it would take LIGHT 1 billion years to travel that far and unless we can go 1 million times the speed of light, that isn't gonna happen, not that our bodies could support it anyway.
thats why wormholes or something similar MUST exist, otherwise, whats the point in space if its there to just ..... be....... and not to be explored fully?
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Not sure why you're laughing, the Universe is ridiculously big and, yes, other galaxies (that we can see but have no hope of reaching) are billions of light years away. Not sure what your point is
And, no I really DO NOT think that wormholes exist. Your assertion that the Universe has put wormholes in itself, purely for our benefit is laughable. The Universe is a law unto itself, it doesn't do things just to please our tiny race on one of it's tiny planets in one of it's tiny galaxies.
comment by La-lala-la-lallana (U19270)
posted 12 hours, 3 minutes ago
According to Drake's Equation, when we look into the night sky, there should be 4 other intelligent civilisations given the astronomical number of stars in our galaxy ~20 billion.
A good way to see the stars is here (real photography):
http://media.skysurvey.org/interactive360/index.html
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That's true, but when you consider how long it would take to reach even our nearest star and then hope that it happens to have a planetary system, and then that one of the planets is within the 'Goldilocks zone' and then that planet happened to support life, and then that life happened to actually develop... You can see that it is nigh impossible to determine *which* planet to look for. 4 in 200 billion stars (all separated by light years) is incredibly short odds.
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I have read a LOT recently on the subject of space and physics - including a recent delve into quantum theory
The Goldilocks zone, is the area in which a planet must be to be "not too hot, or not too cold" (see the Goldilocks reference) and is in direct relation to the size, and distance from, it's star:
http://science.howstuffworks.com/other-earth1.htm
Quantum theory is baffling.
A mate was trying to explain to me about how time was a man-made concept, which I understood. But when he said time isn't linear; ie it doesn't move forward or backwards, I started to wobble. Couldn't get my head round it.
Haha.
It is and at the same time it isn't a man made concept. What is really difficult to get your head around is that time started at the big bang. There was no "before". Time didn't exist. It started when space also started.
Your friend will have been talking about Einstein's theory of time dilation, which is pretty freaky
http://science.howstuffworks.com/science-vs-myth/everyday-myths/relativity10.htm
Space and time are two concepts which exist now, but work in harmony. They both started at the same time. For our minds, and the way we relate things, there should also be a "before" a "during" and an "end". When people talk about the big bang, in your mind you see a big empty black space but this isn't the case. There is nothing, not emptiness, not endless space, nothing. And that, is why it is so hard to imagine the big bang... Proper headfúck, but you get there in the end if you read enough.
That's exactly right.
Everything you said is how I pictured it. I felt like an imbecile with the fact I couldn't grasp it.
Thanks for the links. Good Friday reading. And it ain't even Easter. And even if it was, I don't believe all that God bollo.cks anyway <div>
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That said, I do expect that we will find a way to navigate such great distances. Perhaps quantum physics will be exploited to allow the components of our bodies to separate and then come back together? More likely, cryogenics will be mastered such that we can freeze a human and thaw them in time to reach distant planetary systems. Who knows, but I'm gutted that I won't find out :'-(
posted on 2/10/14
comment by The_Red_Cognoscente (U9741)
posted 36 seconds ago
Space travel? Meh. Utterly pointless.
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I can't take your point seriously, as you like tennis.
posted on 2/10/14
Haha, we will have killed ourselves before we have the technology, i just hope we dont take the rest of the planet out with us.
posted on 2/10/14
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comment by The Guvnor V.I.K II-Frankenstein's Monster (U12889)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Robben van Persie - He Schcores When He Wantsh (U1145)
posted 1 hour, 24 minutes ago
comment by The Guvnor V.I.K II-Frankenstein's Monster (U12889)
posted 2 hours, 3 minutes ago
I actually think we have seen aliens in space but the government is keeping it under wraps
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Where'd you get that tin hat? Can you let me know where to get one myself?
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Aliens exist.So is it that crazy to think we have bumped into one or two? I think not.
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I agree wholeheartedly that other living beings exist, don't get me twisted on that.
However, there are many requirements for our government to have been in contact with said beings.
Firstly, these beings would have had to get to our planet specifically. Now, I'm not sure if you actually have a grasp as to how big the Universe is but all of the stars you can see at night are (more or less) equal to the size of our Sun. You notice that the brightest one you can see is a mere pinprick - the distance is HUGE. Why would these beings come directly to our planet when there are billions of other planets? Secondly, you are presuming that the other beings in our Universe are sophisticated enough to develop space travel machines. Why do you presume that "aliens" are much more advanced than us technologically? Perhaps they are, but to travel these distances and happen to find our planet? I don't think so.
Finally, the "government have been in contact but keep it under wraps"? Come on....
posted on 2/10/14
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posted on 2/10/14
I wasn't suggesting for a moment that the "aliens" would be green men in flying saucers. I was actually making the point that yes, most likely other life forms would be simple bacteria or plants.
Yes, NASA have sent probes past Pluto - but do you know how close Pluto is to us?
In all likelihood (not a certainty, but close) any living form would have to be on a planet within the "Goldilocks" zone in a solar system. Now, bearing in mind that a solar system is a collection of planets orbiting a star and, going back to what I said earlier, how far away our nearest star is it is incredibly unlikely that any probes or what have you will reach another planetary system, with a planet that happens to be in the Goldilocks zone and is not only capable of supporting life, but actually has life is minimal.
More likely there are planets, perhaps even with life forms like ourselves, billions of light years away in galaxies we can see but have no hope (yet) of actually reaching.
So, I really, really doubt that our government is aware of already existing life forms elsewhere. Also, the guys that find these things or review data from probes are scientists - they get their kicks by finding things out and reporting it to the world.
posted on 2/10/14
Gervinho has a forehead of the predator, aliens confirmed.
posted on 2/10/14
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posted on 2/10/14
How can you make contact with a bacterium?
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posted on 2/10/14
More likely there are planets, perhaps even with life forms like ourselves, billions of light years away in galaxies we can see but have no hope (yet) of actually reaching.
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billions of light years?
travelling that distance from one point to the next won't ever be possible.
it would take LIGHT 1 billion years to travel that far and unless we can go 1 million times the speed of light, that isn't gonna happen, not that our bodies could support it anyway.
thats why wormholes or something similar MUST exist, otherwise, whats the point in space if its there to just ..... be....... and not to be explored fully?
posted on 2/10/14
According to Drake's Equation, when we look into the night sky, there should be 4 other intelligent civilisations given the astronomical number of stars in our galaxy ~20 billion.
A good way to see the stars is here (real photography):
http://media.skysurvey.org/interactive360/index.html
posted on 2/10/14
~200 billion.
posted on 3/10/14
comment by Greg- (U1192)
posted 15 hours, 33 minutes ago
More likely there are planets, perhaps even with life forms like ourselves, billions of light years away in galaxies we can see but have no hope (yet) of actually reaching.
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billions of light years?
travelling that distance from one point to the next won't ever be possible.
it would take LIGHT 1 billion years to travel that far and unless we can go 1 million times the speed of light, that isn't gonna happen, not that our bodies could support it anyway.
thats why wormholes or something similar MUST exist, otherwise, whats the point in space if its there to just ..... be....... and not to be explored fully?
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Not sure why you're laughing, the Universe is ridiculously big and, yes, other galaxies (that we can see but have no hope of reaching) are billions of light years away. Not sure what your point is
And, no I really DO NOT think that wormholes exist. Your assertion that the Universe has put wormholes in itself, purely for our benefit is laughable. The Universe is a law unto itself, it doesn't do things just to please our tiny race on one of it's tiny planets in one of it's tiny galaxies.
posted on 3/10/14
comment by La-lala-la-lallana (U19270)
posted 12 hours, 3 minutes ago
According to Drake's Equation, when we look into the night sky, there should be 4 other intelligent civilisations given the astronomical number of stars in our galaxy ~20 billion.
A good way to see the stars is here (real photography):
http://media.skysurvey.org/interactive360/index.html
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That's true, but when you consider how long it would take to reach even our nearest star and then hope that it happens to have a planetary system, and then that one of the planets is within the 'Goldilocks zone' and then that planet happened to support life, and then that life happened to actually develop... You can see that it is nigh impossible to determine *which* planet to look for. 4 in 200 billion stars (all separated by light years) is incredibly short odds.
posted on 3/10/14
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posted on 3/10/14
I have read a LOT recently on the subject of space and physics - including a recent delve into quantum theory
posted on 3/10/14
The Goldilocks zone, is the area in which a planet must be to be "not too hot, or not too cold" (see the Goldilocks reference) and is in direct relation to the size, and distance from, it's star:
http://science.howstuffworks.com/other-earth1.htm
posted on 3/10/14
Quantum theory is baffling.
A mate was trying to explain to me about how time was a man-made concept, which I understood. But when he said time isn't linear; ie it doesn't move forward or backwards, I started to wobble. Couldn't get my head round it.
posted on 3/10/14
around*
posted on 3/10/14
Haha.
It is and at the same time it isn't a man made concept. What is really difficult to get your head around is that time started at the big bang. There was no "before". Time didn't exist. It started when space also started.
Your friend will have been talking about Einstein's theory of time dilation, which is pretty freaky
http://science.howstuffworks.com/science-vs-myth/everyday-myths/relativity10.htm
posted on 3/10/14
Space and time are two concepts which exist now, but work in harmony. They both started at the same time. For our minds, and the way we relate things, there should also be a "before" a "during" and an "end". When people talk about the big bang, in your mind you see a big empty black space but this isn't the case. There is nothing, not emptiness, not endless space, nothing. And that, is why it is so hard to imagine the big bang... Proper headfúck, but you get there in the end if you read enough.
posted on 3/10/14
That's exactly right.
Everything you said is how I pictured it. I felt like an imbecile with the fact I couldn't grasp it.
Thanks for the links. Good Friday reading. And it ain't even Easter. And even if it was, I don't believe all that God bollo.cks anyway <div>
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