Not really, pure n simply hamiltons fault, of which he has admitted to

think it was more that rosberg had the race controlled that lost lewis the race than any mistake that he made

decent enough race performance by both drivers , you just had the impression that rosberg had a tenth or two over hamilton all weekend -

If he had it controlled so well, why then after Hamilton's mistake did he allow a 7 second gap get down to a second.
I also feel he should have come in a lap earlier. Didn't he say the same himself on the radio? Who decided that?

comment by go-cellino-go (U6730)
posted 45 minutes ago
If he had it controlled so well, why then after Hamilton's mistake did he allow a 7 second gap get down to a second.
I also feel he should have come in a lap earlier. Didn't he say the same himself on the radio? Who decided that?
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very likely rosberg could have gone quicker if he had wanted too but why would he bother if he felt he could control the race which in reality he did right from the green lights ---

comment by martial artist (U9033)
posted 5 hours, 29 minutes ago
comment by go-cellino-go (U6730)
posted 45 minutes ago
If he had it controlled so well, why then after Hamilton's mistake did he allow a 7 second gap get down to a second.
I also feel he should have come in a lap earlier. Didn't he say the same himself on the radio? Who decided that?
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very likely rosberg could have gone quicker if he had wanted too but why would he bother if he felt he could control the race which in reality he did right from the green lights ---
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SKY did a simulation and showed that Hamilton would have won the race but for the spin, which was his fault as he was already ahead of Rosberg then.

I thought you watched races on SKY? Did you miss that bit?

OP, his side of the garage wanted him out a couple of seconds more ahead of nico, nothing wrong with that. They want to win. Lewis was the faster driver today and Nico did a superb job.

Roll on Abu Dhabi

comment by M.U.D.D - Luke Shaw makes me throb with desire (U9612)
posted 1 hour, 58 minutes ago
comment by martial artist (U9033)
posted 5 hours, 29 minutes ago
comment by go-cellino-go (U6730)
posted 45 minutes ago
If he had it controlled so well, why then after Hamilton's mistake did he allow a 7 second gap get down to a second.
I also feel he should have come in a lap earlier. Didn't he say the same himself on the radio? Who decided that?
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very likely rosberg could have gone quicker if he had wanted too but why would he bother if he felt he could control the race which in reality he did right from the green lights ---
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SKY did a simulation and showed that Hamilton would have won the race but for the spin, which was his fault as he was already ahead of Rosberg then.

I thought you watched races on SKY? Did you miss that bit?
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simulations dont really mean very much in the real world manx , i just felt rosberg had a little more pace than lewis all weekend as he proved in all the practice sessions and qualifying ,

just my opinion but i felt rosberg was controlling the race at the pace he wanted to run it and could have picked up the pace had he chose to do so --

very likely with reliability at the forefront of his mind as a DNF would have finished his WDC it made sense not to push the car to the extreme --

Martial, if Lewis did not spin he would have won the race as he was already ahead on the undercut. Even with the 7 second deficit, he closed down to within DRS range.

Nico was not faster than him in the race, that was clearly apparent

Hamilton almost had Rosberg after the first pit stop.

When Rosberg pitted the second time Hamilton went one second faster on lap 27 and then spun on lap 28. Perhaps the pace on lap 27 convinced someone (Hamilton or Pit) to do another lap. The spin clearly lost him the race.

Was there any doubt that martial would be talking sh/t again

A DNF wouldn't have decided the title mathematically. Assuming Hamilton had won he would have extended his lead to 49 points. So a reversal of that scenario in AD would have won him the championship by a single point.

Its quite simple really, if lewis hadnt have made the mistake, he would of been ahead of Rosberg. thats not to say he would have then guaranteed to go on and win.

However it is very clear hamilton was the quicker in the race, which based on all the evidence available which includes the following facts:

Hamilton has generally been quicker in all races
Rosberg hasnt yet passed hamilton to win a race
Lewis closed a gap of 7 seconds to DRS range
Nico looked to be heavier on his tyres in the first stint

These facts would lead most to believe that, Rosberg did not have the gap under control - if he did have it under control, i think its reasonable to say that he would have kept the gap to lewis at no less than 2.5 seconds, most certainly not in DRS range.

It is deranged to suggest that he "allowed" lewis to get in DRS range.

This sounds like a critiscism of rosberg. It really isnt. at the end of the day, he didnt make the mistake that lewis did, he did qualify on pole, lewis didnt, he did drive well under pressure from a quicker driver.

Well done Nico, over the weekend you where better, you better in practice, qualifying and the race, you deservedly won. But that does not take away the fact that lewis was quicker in the race and without the mistake, probably (not definetely) would have won.

The mistakes are all part of lewis' brilliance, the ability to go a second quicker on one lap. This ability sometimes can bite you on the rear, by being over aggressive cost him the race, something which Damon Hill spoke about before the race pretty much perfectly.

Quite right.

Controlling a race is about managing the time gap to your rival.

Less than 1 second allows your rival to get DRS. A gap of 25 secs gives you a free pit stop.

A driver such as Vettel never understood that simple tactic and had to be constantly controlled by his engineer.

I can not see how anyone can sensibly state that Rosberg controlled the race by allowing Hamilton to get close enough to put pressure on him and forcing lockups.

Hamilton's spin was due to driver error because he failed to alter his brake balance going into turn 4. The pit decision to keep him out was also wrong.

comment by M.U.D.D - Luke Shaw makes me throb with desire (U9612)
posted 7 hours, 32 minutes ago
Martial, if Lewis did not spin he would have won the race as he was already ahead on the undercut. Even with the 7 second deficit, he closed down to within DRS range.

Nico was not faster than him in the race, that was clearly apparent
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yeh - fair play manx , in all honesty rosberg was not actually quicker in the race , i just believe rosberg drove a smart race and had a little bit of pace in reserve and drove a very clever tactical race to preserve his tyres ,

seen the same thing a few times over the years with the clever drivers and just had the impression that rosberg was playing the tactical option with his tyres in the race -

Hamilton WAS quicker than Rosberg in the race.

comment by BWFCCLEGG (U7583)
posted 6 hours, 24 minutes ago
Its quite simple really, if lewis hadnt have made the mistake, he would of been ahead of Rosberg. thats not to say he would have then guaranteed to go on and win.

However it is very clear hamilton was the quicker in the race, which based on all the evidence available which includes the following facts:

Hamilton has generally been quicker in all races
Rosberg hasnt yet passed hamilton to win a race
Lewis closed a gap of 7 seconds to DRS range
Nico looked to be heavier on his tyres in the first stint

These facts would lead most to believe that, Rosberg did not have the gap under control - if he did have it under control, i think its reasonable to say that he would have kept the gap to lewis at no less than 2.5 seconds, most certainly not in DRS range.

It is deranged to suggest that he "allowed" lewis to get in DRS range.

This sounds like a critiscism of rosberg. It really isnt. at the end of the day, he didnt make the mistake that lewis did, he did qualify on pole, lewis didnt, he did drive well under pressure from a quicker driver.

Well done Nico, over the weekend you where better, you better in practice, qualifying and the race, you deservedly won. But that does not take away the fact that lewis was quicker in the race and without the mistake, probably (not definetely) would have won.

The mistakes are all part of lewis' brilliance, the ability to go a second quicker on one lap. This ability sometimes can bite you on the rear, by being over aggressive cost him the race, something which Damon Hill spoke about before the race pretty much perfectly.
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http://www.planetf1.com/driver/18227/9558567/Rosberg-was-in-control-

F1 is not just about who can go faster in a race , a smart driver also knows when to control a race to win at just the pace that is required to do so

comment by WTCBU (U13662)
posted 1 hour, 12 minutes ago
Quite right.

Controlling a race is about managing the time gap to your rival.

Less than 1 second allows your rival to get DRS. A gap of 25 secs gives you a free pit stop.

A driver such as Vettel never understood that simple tactic and had to be constantly controlled by his engineer.

I can not see how anyone can sensibly state that Rosberg controlled the race by allowing Hamilton to get close enough to put pressure on him and forcing lockups.

Hamilton's spin was due to driver error because he failed to alter his brake balance going into turn 4. The pit decision to keep him out was also wrong.


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in the final stint ( 20 laps ) hamilton was the one locking up with the gap inbetween 1 - 2 secs , in fact i dont think hamilton was ever in a position to try a maneuver on rosberg in the final 20 laps or even in the race itself , which logically tells me that rosberg was doing enough to control lewis and the race
------------- just my honest opinion WT ---

Everybody knows being quicker doesnt win u the race, exactly what i said in my post. To suggest nico was in control is frankly utterly stupid, nobody has said he was in control, only himself

Indeed, he controlled the race that Hamilton was infront before the spin and closed down a 7 second lead to 0.5 secs.

Superb control indeed

Lets not engage n ot get ridiculous if the inevitable comes our way

comment by M.U.D.D - Luke Shaw makes me throb with desire (U9612)
posted 17 minutes ago
Indeed, he controlled the race that Hamilton was infront before the spin and closed down a 7 second lead to 0.5 secs.

Superb control indeed
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you watch the final stint ( 20 laps ) rosberg never allowed hamilton to get close enough to even try a pass , in fact rosberg never allowed hamilton one opportunity in the whole race to make a pass because he was controlling the pace of the race -

if rosberg had not of been controlling the pace of the race dont you seriously believe hamilton would have been in a position in the final 20 laps to make a least one attempt at a pass --

seen this before over the years quite a few times so i actually do know what i am watching manx --

comment by BWFCCLEGG (U7583)
posted 42 minutes ago
Everybody knows being quicker doesnt win u the race, exactly what i said in my post. To suggest nico was in control is frankly utterly stupid, nobody has said he was in control, only himself
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did rosberg allow hamilton one chance of a pass thruout the complete race or even in the last 20 laps of the race -
------------- which to my experienced eye tells me that rosberg was in control throut the race --

Haha yeh whatever idiot

comment by BWFCCLEGG (U7583)
posted 2 minutes ago
Haha yeh whatever idiot
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oh dear ----- another unprovoked insult when i am being civil to you -

--------------- and you call me an idiot

Yeh yeh