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So now that we have determined that the OP's hypothesis is indeed correct, can we start answering his question as to why it is so?
Chaz complaining....wow you can't make that up.
SWTN has confused proving a concept with just repeating it again and again.
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comment by SWTN Biggish (U7916)
posted 11 minutes ago
Another survey with similar findings....
http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/65209000/jpg/_65209699_fanbase_bbc.jpg
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Liverpool 71m fan base, Don't know how anyone bar Chelsea fans can believe such figures. And how do you even prove fanbase size anyway?
I disagree. I don't think the different is at all vast, but I still think Arsenal are a bigger club, if not the bigger draw.
Chelsea are without doubt the more competitive and ambitious club, but a fruitful period of 10 years, in my view, isn't nearly enough to oust almost 100 years of history before that. Not yet.
Another 8-10 years of similar mentalities and philosophy's and the more ingrained perception of the two clubs by new fans and new players then it may (read:will) be more difficult for me to argue.
Id say Chelsea have been the bigger and better club since 2005 yes.
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Well until you bitter herberts can produce some counter evidence from other regarded sources that is the evidence to go on..
And why is a 71m fanbase for a team that has not been in the CL for 5 years and not won the league for 25 years surprising?.....wake up scousers, Liverpool are a small club and they proved it by giving up before ko agst Real Madrid.
"Why Chelsea are bigger than Arsenal now "
Abramovich's wallet.
Wait, you expect a club's fanbase to be about forty million lower than expected because they haven't been in the Champions League for five years?
I was criticising people who throw around the word "gloryhunter" but I think me and you might have a different definition of the word "fan".
chelsea aren't even the biggest club in fulham
comment by Giröulski Alt-153 and Alt-160 forever (U14971)
posted 13 minutes ago
SWTN has confused proving a concept with just repeating it again and again.
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not proving, just providing supporting evidence from two sources...
comment by Sir Robert Paisley (U3823)
posted 39 seconds ago
"Why Chelsea are bigger than Arsenal now "
Abramovich's wallet.
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Says the club that were an ailing division two side until they got outside investment.
The hypocrisy of Scourers
"why chelsea are bigger than arsenal now "
---------- OIL MONEY
take away ROMAN ABRAMOVICH and his OIL MONEY and chelsea would have been just another mid table prem team fighting to stay in the prem these last 10 yrs -
--------------- OIL MONEY simple as that
comment by Giröulski Alt-153 and Alt-160 forever (U14971)
posted 1 minute ago
Wait, you expect a club's fanbase to be about forty million lower than expected because they haven't been in the Champions League for five years?
I was criticising people who throw around the word "gloryhunter" but I think me and you might have a different definition of the word "fan".
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ermmm you are not bright are you...?
Football'c global expansion is a fairly recent thing, if a team has not won their domestic league for over 25 years and been out of the leading comp for several then how will it capture that growth
by all means write to this company and challenge their findings....
Clearly they are not highly regarded
http://www.repucom.net/go/
Tbh Chelsea have got a long way to go before their bigger than LFC.
comment by WengersNearlyMen™ (U5041)
posted 44 seconds ago
Tbh Chelsea have got a long way to go before their bigger than LFC.
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Chelsea have a bigger global fanbase, people like yourself may regard Liverpool as a bigger club, but that is a different debate.
Chelsea have a bigger global fanbase,
Really?
comment by SWTN Biggish (U7916)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Giröulski Alt-153 and Alt-160 forever (U14971)
posted 1 minute ago
Wait, you expect a club's fanbase to be about forty million lower than expected because they haven't been in the Champions League for five years?
I was criticising people who throw around the word "gloryhunter" but I think me and you might have a different definition of the word "fan".
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ermmm you are not bright are you...?
Football'c global expansion is a fairly recent thing, if a team has not won their domestic league for over 25 years and been out of the leading comp for several then how will it capture that growth
by all means write to this company and challenge their findings....
Clearly they are not highly regarded
http://www.repucom.net/go/
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Nah I'm a thicko me.
Yes but you brought up the CL. Them not winning the league in my lifetime does not mean Liverpool aren't a big club. They will have won a lot of fans in Istanbul, for example. Not to mention that they've competed for titles often enough.
Football's expansion into globalisation may be fairly recent, but the gap seems weird.
How long before Arsenal compete with us again at the highest level? With Mourinho in charge and us making the FFP, I would say a long time. Arsenal are like Aston Villa/ Everton to us. Even their worldwide fun numbers are a joke.
comment by Kings Road (U1762)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Sir Robert Paisley (U3823)
posted 39 seconds ago
"Why Chelsea are bigger than Arsenal now "
Abramovich's wallet.
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Says the club that were an ailing division two side until they got outside investment.
The hypocrisy of Scourers
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A question was asked and an answer was given, where is there any hypocrisy?
You really should consider not posting on this site until you get a better grasp of the English language.
comment by Giröulski Alt-153 and Alt-160 forever (U14971)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by SWTN Biggish (U7916)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Giröulski Alt-153 and Alt-160 forever (U14971)
posted 1 minute ago
Wait, you expect a club's fanbase to be about forty million lower than expected because they haven't been in the Champions League for five years?
I was criticising people who throw around the word "gloryhunter" but I think me and you might have a different definition of the word "fan".
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ermmm you are not bright are you...?
Football'c global expansion is a fairly recent thing, if a team has not won their domestic league for over 25 years and been out of the leading comp for several then how will it capture that growth
by all means write to this company and challenge their findings....
Clearly they are not highly regarded
http://www.repucom.net/go/
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Nah I'm a thicko me.
Yes but you brought up the CL. Them not winning the league in my lifetime does not mean Liverpool aren't a big club. They will have won a lot of fans in Istanbul, for example. Not to mention that they've competed for titles often enough.
Football's expansion into globalisation may be fairly recent, but the gap seems weird.
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The claim was not whether Liverpool is a big club, but that their global fanbase is 71m.
Yet another user on this forum who does not read posts correctly, but knee jerks to what he/she thinks has been posted.
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posted on 16/11/14
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posted on 16/11/14
So now that we have determined that the OP's hypothesis is indeed correct, can we start answering his question as to why it is so?
posted on 16/11/14
Chaz complaining....wow you can't make that up.
posted on 16/11/14
SWTN has confused proving a concept with just repeating it again and again.
posted on 16/11/14
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posted on 16/11/14
comment by SWTN Biggish (U7916)
posted 11 minutes ago
Another survey with similar findings....
http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/65209000/jpg/_65209699_fanbase_bbc.jpg
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Liverpool 71m fan base, Don't know how anyone bar Chelsea fans can believe such figures. And how do you even prove fanbase size anyway?
posted on 16/11/14
I disagree. I don't think the different is at all vast, but I still think Arsenal are a bigger club, if not the bigger draw.
Chelsea are without doubt the more competitive and ambitious club, but a fruitful period of 10 years, in my view, isn't nearly enough to oust almost 100 years of history before that. Not yet.
Another 8-10 years of similar mentalities and philosophy's and the more ingrained perception of the two clubs by new fans and new players then it may (read:will) be more difficult for me to argue.
posted on 16/11/14
Id say Chelsea have been the bigger and better club since 2005 yes.
posted on 16/11/14
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posted on 16/11/14
Well until you bitter herberts can produce some counter evidence from other regarded sources that is the evidence to go on..
And why is a 71m fanbase for a team that has not been in the CL for 5 years and not won the league for 25 years surprising?.....wake up scousers, Liverpool are a small club and they proved it by giving up before ko agst Real Madrid.
posted on 16/11/14
"Why Chelsea are bigger than Arsenal now "
Abramovich's wallet.
posted on 16/11/14
Wait, you expect a club's fanbase to be about forty million lower than expected because they haven't been in the Champions League for five years?
I was criticising people who throw around the word "gloryhunter" but I think me and you might have a different definition of the word "fan".
posted on 16/11/14
chelsea aren't even the biggest club in fulham
posted on 16/11/14
comment by Giröulski Alt-153 and Alt-160 forever (U14971)
posted 13 minutes ago
SWTN has confused proving a concept with just repeating it again and again.
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not proving, just providing supporting evidence from two sources...
posted on 16/11/14
comment by Sir Robert Paisley (U3823)
posted 39 seconds ago
"Why Chelsea are bigger than Arsenal now "
Abramovich's wallet.
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Says the club that were an ailing division two side until they got outside investment.
The hypocrisy of Scourers
posted on 16/11/14
"why chelsea are bigger than arsenal now "
---------- OIL MONEY
take away ROMAN ABRAMOVICH and his OIL MONEY and chelsea would have been just another mid table prem team fighting to stay in the prem these last 10 yrs -
--------------- OIL MONEY simple as that
posted on 16/11/14
comment by Giröulski Alt-153 and Alt-160 forever (U14971)
posted 1 minute ago
Wait, you expect a club's fanbase to be about forty million lower than expected because they haven't been in the Champions League for five years?
I was criticising people who throw around the word "gloryhunter" but I think me and you might have a different definition of the word "fan".
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ermmm you are not bright are you...?
Football'c global expansion is a fairly recent thing, if a team has not won their domestic league for over 25 years and been out of the leading comp for several then how will it capture that growth
by all means write to this company and challenge their findings....
Clearly they are not highly regarded
http://www.repucom.net/go/
posted on 16/11/14
Tbh Chelsea have got a long way to go before their bigger than LFC.
posted on 16/11/14
Liverpool
posted on 16/11/14
comment by WengersNearlyMen™ (U5041)
posted 44 seconds ago
Tbh Chelsea have got a long way to go before their bigger than LFC.
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Chelsea have a bigger global fanbase, people like yourself may regard Liverpool as a bigger club, but that is a different debate.
posted on 16/11/14
Chelsea have a bigger global fanbase,
Really?
posted on 16/11/14
comment by SWTN Biggish (U7916)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Giröulski Alt-153 and Alt-160 forever (U14971)
posted 1 minute ago
Wait, you expect a club's fanbase to be about forty million lower than expected because they haven't been in the Champions League for five years?
I was criticising people who throw around the word "gloryhunter" but I think me and you might have a different definition of the word "fan".
----------------------------------------------------------------------
ermmm you are not bright are you...?
Football'c global expansion is a fairly recent thing, if a team has not won their domestic league for over 25 years and been out of the leading comp for several then how will it capture that growth
by all means write to this company and challenge their findings....
Clearly they are not highly regarded
http://www.repucom.net/go/
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Nah I'm a thicko me.
Yes but you brought up the CL. Them not winning the league in my lifetime does not mean Liverpool aren't a big club. They will have won a lot of fans in Istanbul, for example. Not to mention that they've competed for titles often enough.
Football's expansion into globalisation may be fairly recent, but the gap seems weird.
posted on 16/11/14
How long before Arsenal compete with us again at the highest level? With Mourinho in charge and us making the FFP, I would say a long time. Arsenal are like Aston Villa/ Everton to us. Even their worldwide fun numbers are a joke.
posted on 16/11/14
comment by Kings Road (U1762)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Sir Robert Paisley (U3823)
posted 39 seconds ago
"Why Chelsea are bigger than Arsenal now "
Abramovich's wallet.
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Says the club that were an ailing division two side until they got outside investment.
The hypocrisy of Scourers
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A question was asked and an answer was given, where is there any hypocrisy?
You really should consider not posting on this site until you get a better grasp of the English language.
posted on 16/11/14
comment by Giröulski Alt-153 and Alt-160 forever (U14971)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by SWTN Biggish (U7916)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Giröulski Alt-153 and Alt-160 forever (U14971)
posted 1 minute ago
Wait, you expect a club's fanbase to be about forty million lower than expected because they haven't been in the Champions League for five years?
I was criticising people who throw around the word "gloryhunter" but I think me and you might have a different definition of the word "fan".
----------------------------------------------------------------------
ermmm you are not bright are you...?
Football'c global expansion is a fairly recent thing, if a team has not won their domestic league for over 25 years and been out of the leading comp for several then how will it capture that growth
by all means write to this company and challenge their findings....
Clearly they are not highly regarded
http://www.repucom.net/go/
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Nah I'm a thicko me.
Yes but you brought up the CL. Them not winning the league in my lifetime does not mean Liverpool aren't a big club. They will have won a lot of fans in Istanbul, for example. Not to mention that they've competed for titles often enough.
Football's expansion into globalisation may be fairly recent, but the gap seems weird.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The claim was not whether Liverpool is a big club, but that their global fanbase is 71m.
Yet another user on this forum who does not read posts correctly, but knee jerks to what he/she thinks has been posted.
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