Let's remember why Stringer has been blocked, it's not his questions, as irritating as they may be, it's the cut throat gesture made to the playing staff after the Liverpool fan.
Nigel did a long interview with Henry Winter, he is happy to talk to journalists about a range of subjects with soft and hard questions. RL's questions often were far too gossipy and all about NP's future and I am sure the whole club just got tired of the same questions
This is what happens if you allow team managers to decide who asks questions... Davies had his favoured outlets - all despots do -
Sky access is contractual under their Premiership contract as is BT Sport - money talks
this must be challenged - journalists must have access - even if you ignore questions with reasons...
This season should all be about Davies’s bid to lead the double European Cup winners back to the top flight for the first time since 1999 and completing his “unfinished business” at the club.
But since his return in February there have been multiple sackings of club staff, journalists banned, a near media blackout and a suspended solicitor, and cousin of Davies, acting as his closest adviser.
One Championship chief executive has referred to the club as “the Midlands version of North Korea” and there have been enough complaints to the Football League for its chief executive to seek a meeting with the club’s Kuwaiti owner, Fawaz Al-Hasawi.
Would be interesting to know if anyone has written to the club and said they feel disconnected to it as a result of radio leicester being banned and if so what was the clubs response is any?
What was this cut throat gesture BS?
This is what happens if you allow team managers to decide who asks questions... Davies had his favoured outlets - all despots do -
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All mangers do, all players do! Outlets put in requests to interview managers and players and they can chose to accept or reject them if they like. I remember reading about a journalist from The Daily Record who put in a request to interview Kyle lafferty who turned it down. It happens all the time
JG
??
Really, have I just read that correctly?
You have insinuated that NP is like a despot........
And you wonder why people think you are a plank!!
If you look at the comments re RL over the time of this fallout you will see that the majority of people can see both sides but unfortunately your good self and Nev are starting to appear disruptive, vindictive and an embarrassment.
Nothing will change, the majority of people are ok with this so please for the sake of this forum accept our differences and let's move on.
Jimi,after the Liverpool game Ian Stringer made a cut throat gesture from his postion near the pitch to the Leicester players walking off the field. The gesture was taken to mean NP losing his job. Subsequently a couple of players refused to talk to RL as well as NP.
Look, I'm not Pearsons biggest fan, I wanted a replacement in November. But one thing I won't do is resort to the desperate tactics of JG and Nev who distort the facts over any issues they can get hold of to support their anti Pearson campaigns. It's an embarrassment
Cheers BS seems reasonable to not want to speak to the village idiot after that then.
Davies was essentially running a racket within Nottingham Forest. Completely different situation. Unless you're accusing Pearson of running a racket too?
Was unaware of that Dunge - I am talking about banning journalists on his own judgement -press freedom and censorship
Put it this way JG, your refusal to even acknowledge excellent posters like Tommy and Chesham on this forum when they address you directly shows your incredible hypocrisy
You selectively blank those who tend to show you up as being wrong and instead favour the same 3 or 4 posters who don't tend to question your authority and knowledge of Leicester, which at best is average. Not really much different to Pearson choosing to engage with selective journalists while ignoring Stringer, yet that's outrageous censorship in your book.
Practice what you preach. The arrogance of ignoring those who take issue with your condescending comments on here is something I have never seen before on a forum and is frankly astounding. I don't expect you to engage with me due to our previous, but at least give other posters who call you out on your statements the good grace of a response.
Awful behaviour....
Not having a go at those posters who do engage with JG by the way......you're welcome to him though!
BS sorry i forgot you control and run this board and anyone you has a different opinion is pathetic or an embarrassment!
"A disgraceful and purposeful twisting of the facts to support a tired argument the majority don't agree with. Truly pathetic."
You make pronouncements about stringy's gesture it was me that told you about it.
The club DO have a contractual obligation to talk to RL which they are in Breach of contract over.
Funny again BS the language you use if used towards you would have you running to admin or threatening to quite your board.
What do you think NP's legacy to the club at the moment is? Almost every articul i read about him mentions his Fo&d moment has ever in the history of this club has any manager acted in this way?
There is nothing to see here ....
.... move along .... move along .....
Well, this thread has escalated quickly....
Perhaps not surprisingly I sit on the Nev and John side of the debate. I think there has been wrong on both sides, and Ian Stringer was foolish to make comments about Pearson literally behind his back and the gestures, if true. I can understand why Pearson would be annoyed, however it is worth pointing out that this is now the third time that Pearson, directly or indirectly, has effectively tried to get Stringer sacked. I'd say they have both been as bad as each other, however this blackout as far as post-match interviews is concerned is doing a great disservice to the thousands of fans who want to listen to their manager, like him or loathe him, after a match. The fact that this is no longer possible at present is a pretty shameful situation and should have been resolved as soon as it became clear there was a problem. I've said before that I wonder whether Stringer's openness in stating Pearson would go was due to incorrect information he was given prior to the match.
This weekend, I would have liked to hear from NP regarding why he chose to drop Albrighton, our best player in the last two winning performances, and why he chose to play Nugent and Vardy up front, a partnership that has produced the grand total of three goals this season. But because of the blackout, RL didn't get to ask these questions. The nationals either don't know or don't care enough about Leicester City to ask the question, so it remains unanswered. From NP's perspective, it is abundantly clear that not speaking to RL means he doesn't have to answer these difficult questions, questions which are directly regarding his team selection. This compared to the nationals who bang on about bad luck and black cats, like Talksport did two weeks in a row - no questions about his appalling team selection or management, it is implied that our poor form before Christmas was all due to luck. If I was NP, I can see why I would quite like to keep the feud going so I can ensure I avoid difficult questions that question my ability, and instead imply that it isn't my fault and it's all due to bad luck....
From RL's point of view, they are sponsors of the football club as well as the chosen broadcasters for commentary matches. This means that RL are paying LCFC money for the privilege, and I am sure that the contract would state that post-match interviews are included (although it may not be). If it is, then LCFC are in breach of their contract with RL and RL would be well within their rights to suspend commentary and withdraw sponsorship from the club, including advertising at the ground and in the match day programme. If RL refusing to do match commentary is what has to happen to sort this mess out, then so be it.
If this is a personal problem between Pearson and Stringer, then it is something they should seek to sort out. Although it seems this is something that runs far deeper and past clashes clearly indicate there is much animosity towards them that may not be able to be resolved. If that is the case, then a reasonable compromise would be for Bourne or McCarthy to conduct the post match interviews. But NP has been equally obnoxious to them as well, so that makes me wonder whether his issue is actually with RL full stop!
Ultimately, this might be something that can only be resolved with one of them leaving their position sooner rather than later. It may well be Stringer, which would be sad as whether you like the bloke or not, he does have the best interests of the club at heart and is a breath of fresh air compared to the likes of John Barber.
Once relegation is confirmed, I hope that the owners will finally relieve NP of his duties but I don't think this is anywhere near a certainty. The owners seem to think the sun shines out of NP's backside and I'm fully expecting this may mean they keep him in the hope that he can achieve promotion. If NP remains, the issue with RL will also remain. Personally, I would like to think relegation will mean a fresh start with a new manager with new ideas, and hopefully a fresh relationship with RL and other media outlets. But I'm not holding my breath.
Nev, wrong on every count as per usual
It was Geoff Peters who informed me about the gesture not you. He posted it on foxestalk. I know you sometimes suffer from delusions of grandeur regarding your inside knowledge of our club but you really know nothing more than the rest of us
Secondly, I am not having a go at John because he shares a different opinion to me. I'm having a go at his constant distortion of facts to suit his agenda, a rare verbal disorder called factioditus you also seem to suffer with, and I'm having a go at his refusal to acknowledge people like tommy and chesham because they openly disagree with him.
Your remarks about me controlling this board are becoming boring, repetitive and unimaginative. The only other person who resorted to such accusations was Lcfc69 who was the biggest WUM on this board. He got himself banned, admin doesn't do personal favours for me.
I would think about filtering you but after you cried like a baby on here last time I'm not sure you could handle it.
BS the bully again by the way i pointed you in the direction of Geoff's post you did nto have a clue you are the one making a fool of yourself now. You have none this on other boards and with others than me so take the emotion out of it and don't threaten me again.
Foxy your are going to get nailed but i agree word for word. Stringy has cocked up but NP is using to his advantage.
John, don't think for a moment that I prefer things this way. I'd rather Stringer and Pearson were having post-match interviews, and that Craig Shakespeare was having his pre-match tactical chatter with him as well. But I don't see it so much as Leicester City's problem that this isn't happening.
There is no divine right of any broadcaster to get access to a football club. Of course, the club has to balance the perceived positives of blocking a particular media outlet with the negatives, and to me this is what the club has done, almost certainly after discussion with the manager. This is one individual who, particularly if the tale of the gesture is to be believed (and it seems it is), is deemed to be causing consternation around the place. Notably, there have been rumours that his actions have been upsetting the squad, and I believe this as well because Pearson is massively protective of his squad and his training room.
If the club was banning all media outlets from the place - or if they were banning all media outlets that dared to criticise them in any way - then this would be a problem; but they're not. Instead, this has all the hallmarks of Pearson wanting to remove a disruptive influence (albeit an external one) from contact with the squad. He did it with DJ Campbell, he did it with Matt Mills and now he's doing it with Ian Stringer. There's nothing particularly out of the ordinary here.
A final point I'd make: When it comes to the match and training, this is Pearson's domain. He's held responsible for that and he hasn't done as well as all of us would have liked this year. There's still time and I don't think we're necessarily doomed at this point, but this is where we are. When it comes to interviews however, this is the responsibility of the journalist to conduct it well. That's not to say that some people aren't easier to interview than others and I wouldn't suggest that Pearson's an easy person to interview by any means, but it's Stringer's job to get the most out of him for his particular media outlet's audience. But his style only works with outwardly charming people like Sven, who will put up with it and may even give a little bit more to it. Pearson requires a more softly-softly approach, and if you do that then he will offer more, we've seen it in the past. It's like different sales techniques are required for different customers - it's not the customer's fault if he leaves the car lot without a car and vows never to come back because the salesman's been too pushy. I think it's the same with Stringer - there's no criticising his enthusiasm but he needs to learn to restrain himself and conduct smarter interviews, for the sake of his own career if nothing else.
comment by Nevsaysagoal2city (U5194)
posted 5 minutes ago
BS the bully again by the way i pointed you in the direction of Geoff's post you did nto have a clue you are the one making a fool of yourself now. You have none this on other boards and with others than me so take the emotion out of it and don't threaten me again.
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I haven't threatened you with anything, I've merely told you that I don't have the power to get people banned and compared your wummery to lcfc69. Make no mistake you are operating at his level of childishness.
I like the whole 'you wouldn't have even known about the gesture if it wasn't for ME!' thing you have going on though. Really classy. Completely wrong but really shows what a fantastic contributor you are to these boards
Dung its not a divine right its a contractual obligation.
Now its come out i can mention it there where reports from within the club that NP was on his way and thats why RL went in hard. either a stitch up or duff gen you decide?
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posted on 19/1/15
Let's remember why Stringer has been blocked, it's not his questions, as irritating as they may be, it's the cut throat gesture made to the playing staff after the Liverpool fan.
posted on 19/1/15
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posted on 19/1/15
Nigel did a long interview with Henry Winter, he is happy to talk to journalists about a range of subjects with soft and hard questions. RL's questions often were far too gossipy and all about NP's future and I am sure the whole club just got tired of the same questions
posted on 19/1/15
This is what happens if you allow team managers to decide who asks questions... Davies had his favoured outlets - all despots do -
Sky access is contractual under their Premiership contract as is BT Sport - money talks
this must be challenged - journalists must have access - even if you ignore questions with reasons...
This season should all be about Davies’s bid to lead the double European Cup winners back to the top flight for the first time since 1999 and completing his “unfinished business” at the club.
But since his return in February there have been multiple sackings of club staff, journalists banned, a near media blackout and a suspended solicitor, and cousin of Davies, acting as his closest adviser.
One Championship chief executive has referred to the club as “the Midlands version of North Korea” and there have been enough complaints to the Football League for its chief executive to seek a meeting with the club’s Kuwaiti owner, Fawaz Al-Hasawi.
posted on 19/1/15
Would be interesting to know if anyone has written to the club and said they feel disconnected to it as a result of radio leicester being banned and if so what was the clubs response is any?
posted on 19/1/15
What was this cut throat gesture BS?
posted on 19/1/15
This is what happens if you allow team managers to decide who asks questions... Davies had his favoured outlets - all despots do -
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All mangers do, all players do! Outlets put in requests to interview managers and players and they can chose to accept or reject them if they like. I remember reading about a journalist from The Daily Record who put in a request to interview Kyle lafferty who turned it down. It happens all the time
posted on 19/1/15
JG
??
Really, have I just read that correctly?
You have insinuated that NP is like a despot........
And you wonder why people think you are a plank!!
If you look at the comments re RL over the time of this fallout you will see that the majority of people can see both sides but unfortunately your good self and Nev are starting to appear disruptive, vindictive and an embarrassment.
Nothing will change, the majority of people are ok with this so please for the sake of this forum accept our differences and let's move on.
posted on 19/1/15
Jimi,after the Liverpool game Ian Stringer made a cut throat gesture from his postion near the pitch to the Leicester players walking off the field. The gesture was taken to mean NP losing his job. Subsequently a couple of players refused to talk to RL as well as NP.
posted on 19/1/15
Look, I'm not Pearsons biggest fan, I wanted a replacement in November. But one thing I won't do is resort to the desperate tactics of JG and Nev who distort the facts over any issues they can get hold of to support their anti Pearson campaigns. It's an embarrassment
posted on 19/1/15
Cheers BS seems reasonable to not want to speak to the village idiot after that then.
posted on 19/1/15
Davies was essentially running a racket within Nottingham Forest. Completely different situation. Unless you're accusing Pearson of running a racket too?
posted on 19/1/15
Was unaware of that Dunge - I am talking about banning journalists on his own judgement -press freedom and censorship
posted on 19/1/15
Put it this way JG, your refusal to even acknowledge excellent posters like Tommy and Chesham on this forum when they address you directly shows your incredible hypocrisy
You selectively blank those who tend to show you up as being wrong and instead favour the same 3 or 4 posters who don't tend to question your authority and knowledge of Leicester, which at best is average. Not really much different to Pearson choosing to engage with selective journalists while ignoring Stringer, yet that's outrageous censorship in your book.
Practice what you preach. The arrogance of ignoring those who take issue with your condescending comments on here is something I have never seen before on a forum and is frankly astounding. I don't expect you to engage with me due to our previous, but at least give other posters who call you out on your statements the good grace of a response.
Awful behaviour....
posted on 19/1/15
Not having a go at those posters who do engage with JG by the way......you're welcome to him though!
posted on 19/1/15
BS sorry i forgot you control and run this board and anyone you has a different opinion is pathetic or an embarrassment!
"A disgraceful and purposeful twisting of the facts to support a tired argument the majority don't agree with. Truly pathetic."
You make pronouncements about stringy's gesture it was me that told you about it.
The club DO have a contractual obligation to talk to RL which they are in Breach of contract over.
Funny again BS the language you use if used towards you would have you running to admin or threatening to quite your board.
posted on 19/1/15
What do you think NP's legacy to the club at the moment is? Almost every articul i read about him mentions his Fo&d moment has ever in the history of this club has any manager acted in this way?
posted on 19/1/15
There is nothing to see here ....
.... move along .... move along .....
posted on 19/1/15
Well, this thread has escalated quickly....
Perhaps not surprisingly I sit on the Nev and John side of the debate. I think there has been wrong on both sides, and Ian Stringer was foolish to make comments about Pearson literally behind his back and the gestures, if true. I can understand why Pearson would be annoyed, however it is worth pointing out that this is now the third time that Pearson, directly or indirectly, has effectively tried to get Stringer sacked. I'd say they have both been as bad as each other, however this blackout as far as post-match interviews is concerned is doing a great disservice to the thousands of fans who want to listen to their manager, like him or loathe him, after a match. The fact that this is no longer possible at present is a pretty shameful situation and should have been resolved as soon as it became clear there was a problem. I've said before that I wonder whether Stringer's openness in stating Pearson would go was due to incorrect information he was given prior to the match.
This weekend, I would have liked to hear from NP regarding why he chose to drop Albrighton, our best player in the last two winning performances, and why he chose to play Nugent and Vardy up front, a partnership that has produced the grand total of three goals this season. But because of the blackout, RL didn't get to ask these questions. The nationals either don't know or don't care enough about Leicester City to ask the question, so it remains unanswered. From NP's perspective, it is abundantly clear that not speaking to RL means he doesn't have to answer these difficult questions, questions which are directly regarding his team selection. This compared to the nationals who bang on about bad luck and black cats, like Talksport did two weeks in a row - no questions about his appalling team selection or management, it is implied that our poor form before Christmas was all due to luck. If I was NP, I can see why I would quite like to keep the feud going so I can ensure I avoid difficult questions that question my ability, and instead imply that it isn't my fault and it's all due to bad luck....
From RL's point of view, they are sponsors of the football club as well as the chosen broadcasters for commentary matches. This means that RL are paying LCFC money for the privilege, and I am sure that the contract would state that post-match interviews are included (although it may not be). If it is, then LCFC are in breach of their contract with RL and RL would be well within their rights to suspend commentary and withdraw sponsorship from the club, including advertising at the ground and in the match day programme. If RL refusing to do match commentary is what has to happen to sort this mess out, then so be it.
If this is a personal problem between Pearson and Stringer, then it is something they should seek to sort out. Although it seems this is something that runs far deeper and past clashes clearly indicate there is much animosity towards them that may not be able to be resolved. If that is the case, then a reasonable compromise would be for Bourne or McCarthy to conduct the post match interviews. But NP has been equally obnoxious to them as well, so that makes me wonder whether his issue is actually with RL full stop!
Ultimately, this might be something that can only be resolved with one of them leaving their position sooner rather than later. It may well be Stringer, which would be sad as whether you like the bloke or not, he does have the best interests of the club at heart and is a breath of fresh air compared to the likes of John Barber.
Once relegation is confirmed, I hope that the owners will finally relieve NP of his duties but I don't think this is anywhere near a certainty. The owners seem to think the sun shines out of NP's backside and I'm fully expecting this may mean they keep him in the hope that he can achieve promotion. If NP remains, the issue with RL will also remain. Personally, I would like to think relegation will mean a fresh start with a new manager with new ideas, and hopefully a fresh relationship with RL and other media outlets. But I'm not holding my breath.
posted on 19/1/15
Nev, wrong on every count as per usual
It was Geoff Peters who informed me about the gesture not you. He posted it on foxestalk. I know you sometimes suffer from delusions of grandeur regarding your inside knowledge of our club but you really know nothing more than the rest of us
Secondly, I am not having a go at John because he shares a different opinion to me. I'm having a go at his constant distortion of facts to suit his agenda, a rare verbal disorder called factioditus you also seem to suffer with, and I'm having a go at his refusal to acknowledge people like tommy and chesham because they openly disagree with him.
Your remarks about me controlling this board are becoming boring, repetitive and unimaginative. The only other person who resorted to such accusations was Lcfc69 who was the biggest WUM on this board. He got himself banned, admin doesn't do personal favours for me.
I would think about filtering you but after you cried like a baby on here last time I'm not sure you could handle it.
posted on 19/1/15
BS the bully again by the way i pointed you in the direction of Geoff's post you did nto have a clue you are the one making a fool of yourself now. You have none this on other boards and with others than me so take the emotion out of it and don't threaten me again.
posted on 19/1/15
Foxy your are going to get nailed but i agree word for word. Stringy has cocked up but NP is using to his advantage.
posted on 19/1/15
John, don't think for a moment that I prefer things this way. I'd rather Stringer and Pearson were having post-match interviews, and that Craig Shakespeare was having his pre-match tactical chatter with him as well. But I don't see it so much as Leicester City's problem that this isn't happening.
There is no divine right of any broadcaster to get access to a football club. Of course, the club has to balance the perceived positives of blocking a particular media outlet with the negatives, and to me this is what the club has done, almost certainly after discussion with the manager. This is one individual who, particularly if the tale of the gesture is to be believed (and it seems it is), is deemed to be causing consternation around the place. Notably, there have been rumours that his actions have been upsetting the squad, and I believe this as well because Pearson is massively protective of his squad and his training room.
If the club was banning all media outlets from the place - or if they were banning all media outlets that dared to criticise them in any way - then this would be a problem; but they're not. Instead, this has all the hallmarks of Pearson wanting to remove a disruptive influence (albeit an external one) from contact with the squad. He did it with DJ Campbell, he did it with Matt Mills and now he's doing it with Ian Stringer. There's nothing particularly out of the ordinary here.
A final point I'd make: When it comes to the match and training, this is Pearson's domain. He's held responsible for that and he hasn't done as well as all of us would have liked this year. There's still time and I don't think we're necessarily doomed at this point, but this is where we are. When it comes to interviews however, this is the responsibility of the journalist to conduct it well. That's not to say that some people aren't easier to interview than others and I wouldn't suggest that Pearson's an easy person to interview by any means, but it's Stringer's job to get the most out of him for his particular media outlet's audience. But his style only works with outwardly charming people like Sven, who will put up with it and may even give a little bit more to it. Pearson requires a more softly-softly approach, and if you do that then he will offer more, we've seen it in the past. It's like different sales techniques are required for different customers - it's not the customer's fault if he leaves the car lot without a car and vows never to come back because the salesman's been too pushy. I think it's the same with Stringer - there's no criticising his enthusiasm but he needs to learn to restrain himself and conduct smarter interviews, for the sake of his own career if nothing else.
posted on 19/1/15
comment by Nevsaysagoal2city (U5194)
posted 5 minutes ago
BS the bully again by the way i pointed you in the direction of Geoff's post you did nto have a clue you are the one making a fool of yourself now. You have none this on other boards and with others than me so take the emotion out of it and don't threaten me again.
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I haven't threatened you with anything, I've merely told you that I don't have the power to get people banned and compared your wummery to lcfc69. Make no mistake you are operating at his level of childishness.
I like the whole 'you wouldn't have even known about the gesture if it wasn't for ME!' thing you have going on though. Really classy. Completely wrong but really shows what a fantastic contributor you are to these boards
posted on 19/1/15
Dung its not a divine right its a contractual obligation.
Now its come out i can mention it there where reports from within the club that NP was on his way and thats why RL went in hard. either a stitch up or duff gen you decide?
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