comment by Ledley's knee surgeon: Football Manager l... (U20121)
posted 22 minutes ago
Khan's annual routine is unsuccessfully calling out Mayweather. No doubt he'll stick to that instead of getting on with his career. He's not on Mayweather's level.
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More importantly he's not on Floyd's radar. Floyd was probably going to fight Cotto again if the Pac fight hadn't happened.
If Khan had the IBF belt then he would have some serious leverage to force a fight with Floyd. As it stands he doesn't have that leverage even if he is a bigger name than Brook.
If they can find a venue for 6th June then Ramadan should not be the show stopper going by previous.
Ramadan in 2015 is on 17/18th June FYI.
Watched the Kell fight today, it was man against boy stuff. Jo Jo Dan just wasn't in the same league.
I don't blame Kell for taking an easy fight, who in their right mind would take a career defining fight after 7 months off and a surgery?! Equally I don't think too much can be read from the fight other than he's still the same fighter he was before the stabbing.
Lots of people on here saying that the Brook v Khan fight has to happen now, I don't actually agree. Kell's profile is still relatively low for a world champion, a couple of impressive wins however and his profile and reputation will grow.
Khan has been improving under Hunter, a more rounded fighter and definitely better defensively. If he keeps going in that direction then he'll be seen as a top fighter again very soon.
My point is they're both building/re-building their reputations to a certain extent. A couple more wins for both then a summer 2016 fight could be massive.
One last point, I don't blame Khan in the slightest for chasing the Floyd fight. Mayweather has 3 fights left? Means Khan has a limited time left to get a crack at a legend. There would be something wrong with him if he wasn't chasing that.
Floyd has two fights left.
So if there is a Floyd Manny rematch then Khan would probably never get a shot at Mayweather anyway.
Khan should focus on what's directly in front of him and that's Kell Brook. Especially after Brook so publicly called him out after his fight.
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comment by Superb (U6486)
posted 18 minutes ago
Floyd has two fights left.
So if there is a Floyd Manny rematch then Khan would probably never get a shot at Mayweather anyway.
Khan should focus on what's directly in front of him and that's Kell Brook. Especially after Brook so publicly called him out after his fight.
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Maybe not but the point is Brook will still be there in a year, Mayweather won't. I know what I'd be aiming for and that's before you consider the financially disparity.
Someone (Vik?) said earlier, Khan takes tough fights. He tests himself. I think he will fight Kell at some point but he'll go after Floyd, frankly the biggest test out there, first. I don't see an issue with that.
But as I said earlier I don't think that Khan is even on Floyd's radar at the moment so I don't see that fight happening anytime soon.
Khan with the IBF title is a totally different prospect as fighting Khan would allow Mayweather to retire as undisputed Welterweight Champ as well as potentially undefeated (if Floyd beats Pac).
That's why I think Khan needs the Kell Brook fight before he can even think Mayweather will give him a shot.
comment by Superb (U6486)
posted 33 minutes ago
But as I said earlier I don't think that Khan is even on Floyd's radar at the moment so I don't see that fight happening anytime soon.
Khan with the IBF title is a totally different prospect as fighting Khan would allow Mayweather to retire as undisputed Welterweight Champ as well as potentially undefeated (if Floyd beats Pac).
That's why I think Khan needs the Kell Brook fight before he can even think Mayweather will give him a shot.
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I'd be surprised if he wasn't on his radar, it was only 2 fights ago that Mayweather was openly discussing whether to fight Maidana or Khan.
Sure, if Khan had the belt then he'd be more attractive but we're just guessing at how significantly so. For example, I can't see Floyd ending his career with a fight against Kell even with the belt at stake, it's just not box office.
Khan is more of a name. Why risk a potential crack at a huge payday by taking a difficult fight if it's not necessary? If Khan doesn't take the Kell fight then it's a fair indication he thinks he can get a Floyd/Manny fight without the belt. He might be right, he might be wrong.
I'm not denying that Khan is a bigger name than Brook. A lot of boxing fans in the US probably don't even know who Kell Brook is.
My point is that Khan being a bigger name than Brook in the States is no guarantee of getting a fight with Floyd in what probably would be Floyd's last fight.
There are plenty of other fights that Floyd could take. At this point I wouldn't say that Khan is the outstanding candidate for Floyd to fight next.
He's undoubtedly one of the candidates, but I think that Khan with the IBF belt would make him the outstanding candidate.
Again though much depends on what happens in the Floyd Manny fight because if that's a close fight which it probably will be then there's every chance there will be a rematch anyway.
You're probably right about the outstanding candidate but risky to fight Kell on that basis.
I don't think it matters anyway, if Floyd was going to fight Amir then it would have happened by now. Khan's getting better, defensively speaking, and Floyd must be slowing down. Riskier fight for Floyd now than 2 years ago.
Plus you're right - a rematch with Manny is likely.
I think that Khan is going to have to take the Brook fight sooner or later.
If I was Khan I'd fight Brook now while Brook's still trying to get everything back on track after what happened to him.
Brook will only get better from now on. He's not going anywhere.
I'd fancy Kell Brook to beat Khan anyway, regardless of when they fight and I suspect that Khan also thinks this.
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I don't think Khan's a ducker necessarily. He's fought some tough fights and he wouldn't be looking for the winner of the Floyd Manny fight if he was a ducker.
I don't think he wants to fight Brook though. Maybe he thinks Brook is below him or not a big enough name. I'm not sure.
As for me talking about Brook getting better it was more in reference to getting better from being stabbed and not sure if he would ever fight again.
Last night showed that he's back on track even if he was fighting a tomato can.
Anyway it would be great to have another really big all British fight which is what this fight would be. It would make a lot of money as well, certainly within the UK so there's good reasons for it to happen.
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Vik. Since Garcia. Khan has fought. Molina Diaz collazo and Alexander. Not exactly big punchers are they or feared men in the Junior and welterweight division. He is carefully picking fights that will get him to the Mayweather fight. He is not this boxer that fights anyone and everyone anymore.
and there's strong rumours that khan is gna face chris algieri next. Chris algieri.
This is the same guy that fought Manny Pacquiao last year and not a peep said. Brook will face another bum because he is a bum. A massive fraud. Not beaten one good fighter in his career. He is crap. Khan doesnt want to fight him because Brook and his deluded promoter Hearn wont accept less of the purse. Khan is by far a bigger name
Manny against algeri was a shocking match up same as rios,
Khan should fight brook end of, brook has fought the best WW between them in porter Khan has fought Alexander,
Khan wants a big pay day but he knows losing to manny or floyd will not do anything bad for his legacy or ranking it will only increase and if he beats them he's then top dog at WW!
If he was willing to fight anyone he would be re matching maidana or fighting Thurman!
Instead he will go for algeri or a rios or someone
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posted on 29/3/15
comment by Ledley's knee surgeon: Football Manager l... (U20121)
posted 22 minutes ago
Khan's annual routine is unsuccessfully calling out Mayweather. No doubt he'll stick to that instead of getting on with his career. He's not on Mayweather's level.
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More importantly he's not on Floyd's radar. Floyd was probably going to fight Cotto again if the Pac fight hadn't happened.
If Khan had the IBF belt then he would have some serious leverage to force a fight with Floyd. As it stands he doesn't have that leverage even if he is a bigger name than Brook.
posted on 29/3/15
If they can find a venue for 6th June then Ramadan should not be the show stopper going by previous.
Ramadan in 2015 is on 17/18th June FYI.
posted on 29/3/15
Watched the Kell fight today, it was man against boy stuff. Jo Jo Dan just wasn't in the same league.
I don't blame Kell for taking an easy fight, who in their right mind would take a career defining fight after 7 months off and a surgery?! Equally I don't think too much can be read from the fight other than he's still the same fighter he was before the stabbing.
Lots of people on here saying that the Brook v Khan fight has to happen now, I don't actually agree. Kell's profile is still relatively low for a world champion, a couple of impressive wins however and his profile and reputation will grow.
Khan has been improving under Hunter, a more rounded fighter and definitely better defensively. If he keeps going in that direction then he'll be seen as a top fighter again very soon.
My point is they're both building/re-building their reputations to a certain extent. A couple more wins for both then a summer 2016 fight could be massive.
One last point, I don't blame Khan in the slightest for chasing the Floyd fight. Mayweather has 3 fights left? Means Khan has a limited time left to get a crack at a legend. There would be something wrong with him if he wasn't chasing that.
posted on 29/3/15
Floyd has two fights left.
So if there is a Floyd Manny rematch then Khan would probably never get a shot at Mayweather anyway.
Khan should focus on what's directly in front of him and that's Kell Brook. Especially after Brook so publicly called him out after his fight.
posted on 29/3/15
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posted on 29/3/15
comment by Superb (U6486)
posted 18 minutes ago
Floyd has two fights left.
So if there is a Floyd Manny rematch then Khan would probably never get a shot at Mayweather anyway.
Khan should focus on what's directly in front of him and that's Kell Brook. Especially after Brook so publicly called him out after his fight.
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Maybe not but the point is Brook will still be there in a year, Mayweather won't. I know what I'd be aiming for and that's before you consider the financially disparity.
Someone (Vik?) said earlier, Khan takes tough fights. He tests himself. I think he will fight Kell at some point but he'll go after Floyd, frankly the biggest test out there, first. I don't see an issue with that.
posted on 29/3/15
But as I said earlier I don't think that Khan is even on Floyd's radar at the moment so I don't see that fight happening anytime soon.
Khan with the IBF title is a totally different prospect as fighting Khan would allow Mayweather to retire as undisputed Welterweight Champ as well as potentially undefeated (if Floyd beats Pac).
That's why I think Khan needs the Kell Brook fight before he can even think Mayweather will give him a shot.
posted on 29/3/15
comment by Superb (U6486)
posted 33 minutes ago
But as I said earlier I don't think that Khan is even on Floyd's radar at the moment so I don't see that fight happening anytime soon.
Khan with the IBF title is a totally different prospect as fighting Khan would allow Mayweather to retire as undisputed Welterweight Champ as well as potentially undefeated (if Floyd beats Pac).
That's why I think Khan needs the Kell Brook fight before he can even think Mayweather will give him a shot.
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I'd be surprised if he wasn't on his radar, it was only 2 fights ago that Mayweather was openly discussing whether to fight Maidana or Khan.
Sure, if Khan had the belt then he'd be more attractive but we're just guessing at how significantly so. For example, I can't see Floyd ending his career with a fight against Kell even with the belt at stake, it's just not box office.
Khan is more of a name. Why risk a potential crack at a huge payday by taking a difficult fight if it's not necessary? If Khan doesn't take the Kell fight then it's a fair indication he thinks he can get a Floyd/Manny fight without the belt. He might be right, he might be wrong.
posted on 29/3/15
I'm not denying that Khan is a bigger name than Brook. A lot of boxing fans in the US probably don't even know who Kell Brook is.
My point is that Khan being a bigger name than Brook in the States is no guarantee of getting a fight with Floyd in what probably would be Floyd's last fight.
There are plenty of other fights that Floyd could take. At this point I wouldn't say that Khan is the outstanding candidate for Floyd to fight next.
He's undoubtedly one of the candidates, but I think that Khan with the IBF belt would make him the outstanding candidate.
Again though much depends on what happens in the Floyd Manny fight because if that's a close fight which it probably will be then there's every chance there will be a rematch anyway.
posted on 29/3/15
You're probably right about the outstanding candidate but risky to fight Kell on that basis.
I don't think it matters anyway, if Floyd was going to fight Amir then it would have happened by now. Khan's getting better, defensively speaking, and Floyd must be slowing down. Riskier fight for Floyd now than 2 years ago.
Plus you're right - a rematch with Manny is likely.
posted on 29/3/15
I think that Khan is going to have to take the Brook fight sooner or later.
If I was Khan I'd fight Brook now while Brook's still trying to get everything back on track after what happened to him.
Brook will only get better from now on. He's not going anywhere.
I'd fancy Kell Brook to beat Khan anyway, regardless of when they fight and I suspect that Khan also thinks this.
posted on 29/3/15
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posted on 29/3/15
I don't think Khan's a ducker necessarily. He's fought some tough fights and he wouldn't be looking for the winner of the Floyd Manny fight if he was a ducker.
I don't think he wants to fight Brook though. Maybe he thinks Brook is below him or not a big enough name. I'm not sure.
As for me talking about Brook getting better it was more in reference to getting better from being stabbed and not sure if he would ever fight again.
Last night showed that he's back on track even if he was fighting a tomato can.
Anyway it would be great to have another really big all British fight which is what this fight would be. It would make a lot of money as well, certainly within the UK so there's good reasons for it to happen.
posted on 29/3/15
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posted on 29/3/15
Vik. Since Garcia. Khan has fought. Molina Diaz collazo and Alexander. Not exactly big punchers are they or feared men in the Junior and welterweight division. He is carefully picking fights that will get him to the Mayweather fight. He is not this boxer that fights anyone and everyone anymore.
posted on 30/3/15
and there's strong rumours that khan is gna face chris algieri next. Chris algieri.
posted on 30/3/15
This is the same guy that fought Manny Pacquiao last year and not a peep said. Brook will face another bum because he is a bum. A massive fraud. Not beaten one good fighter in his career. He is crap. Khan doesnt want to fight him because Brook and his deluded promoter Hearn wont accept less of the purse. Khan is by far a bigger name
posted on 30/3/15
Manny against algeri was a shocking match up same as rios,
Khan should fight brook end of, brook has fought the best WW between them in porter Khan has fought Alexander,
Khan wants a big pay day but he knows losing to manny or floyd will not do anything bad for his legacy or ranking it will only increase and if he beats them he's then top dog at WW!
If he was willing to fight anyone he would be re matching maidana or fighting Thurman!
Instead he will go for algeri or a rios or someone
posted on 30/3/15
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