Wish he had gone to a better team but good news for us. Reckon he will return to back up Bellerin as Debuchy goes past his best.
Agree with Andre.
Considering Debuchy turns 31 next year, it's not unthinkable that Jenkinson could displace him as Bellerin's competition if he has a successful season at Sunderland.
Would have preferred if he had gone back to West Ham considering he would have got some European experience.
Can see Sunderland in another relegation battle and Jenks is better than that
He is now 23? If West Ham don't think he was good enough to pursue keeping him for a another season then that does tell its own story. At Arsenal there have been moments where he has shown he is good but then the bad moments have often been more in the spot light. Mainly because the mistakes he's made are so amateur. I don't think he is good enough to provide a good challenge to either Bellerin or Debuchy. Unless he's happy at being a second a string RB.
Maybe Bilic didnt think he needed a rb or thought maybe he'd rather buy one as a more permanent option.
Was he not first choice for West Ham and performed very well under Allardyce?
The fact that Arsenal wanted a £2mil loan fee may have had some bearing on his destination.
Sunderland are a good club. Hopefully under advocat they play good football next season.
West ham probably want a permanent rb.
Bad move. Never going to be good enough for Arsenal. Never gonna want to sit on our bench and deputise for a kid. Should sell him when his stock is relatively high.
comment by 50 (U1147)
posted 13 hours, 9 minutes ago
He is now 23? If West Ham don't think he was good enough to pursue keeping him for a another season then that does tell its own story. At Arsenal there have been moments where he has shown he is good but then the bad moments have often been more in the spot light. Mainly because the mistakes he's made are so amateur. I don't think he is good enough to provide a good challenge to either Bellerin or Debuchy. Unless he's happy at being a second a string RB.
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WHU were interested but it looks like the deal with Sunderland was already in place.
I don't see why his stock can't get higher with a loan move to Sunderland.
Advocaat is a very good manager, and with the paucity of quality English right-backs - particularly if Kyle Walker continues his poor-form following injury - there's a reasonable chance he could break back into the England set-up if he has a good season.
He's still got 3 years left on his contract - with rumours that he's going to extend that - so it's not like we're going to lose much value from his contract reaching expiration.
The loan move just keeps our options open a little longer.
Has this been confirmed by arsenal or Sunderland? Last I heard he turned them down as he wants to stay in London and we are still working on it!
comment by Tomkins (U1116)
posted 4 hours, 26 minutes ago
Has this been confirmed by arsenal or Sunderland? Last I heard he turned them down as he wants to stay in London and we are still working on it!
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Not officially - a lot of reports though.
How did you think Jenkinson did for you last season, if you don't mind me asking? Did he impress much?
If he goes on loan it should be back to West Ham not Sunderland. Advocaat WAS a good manager. He did a decent job with Sunderland but be is still unproven imo. West Ham are bigger and better than Sunderland and will play attacking football under Bilic.
comment by Bats (U18355)
posted 1 hour, 38 minutes ago
If he goes on loan it should be back to West Ham not Sunderland. Advocaat WAS a good manager. He did a decent job with Sunderland but be is still unproven imo. West Ham are bigger and better than Sunderland and will play attacking football under Bilic.
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I agree - I'd prefer West Ham. However, if they choose not to pursue him, I don't see the problem with Jenkinson having a loan spell at Sunderland,.
He's snubbed Sunderland anyway, wants West Ham apparently.
Wonder if there was anything to the L'pool interest, would be a great move, he has the engine to play in their wing-back system, unsure of the skill though.
Probably a non-story but given their preference for English talent wouldn't be surprised.
Yep he was very very good for us last season. Want him back permanently!
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posted on 16/6/15
Wish he had gone to a better team but good news for us. Reckon he will return to back up Bellerin as Debuchy goes past his best.
posted on 16/6/15
Agree with Andre.
Considering Debuchy turns 31 next year, it's not unthinkable that Jenkinson could displace him as Bellerin's competition if he has a successful season at Sunderland.
posted on 16/6/15
Would have preferred if he had gone back to West Ham considering he would have got some European experience.
Can see Sunderland in another relegation battle and Jenks is better than that
posted on 16/6/15
He is now 23? If West Ham don't think he was good enough to pursue keeping him for a another season then that does tell its own story. At Arsenal there have been moments where he has shown he is good but then the bad moments have often been more in the spot light. Mainly because the mistakes he's made are so amateur. I don't think he is good enough to provide a good challenge to either Bellerin or Debuchy. Unless he's happy at being a second a string RB.
posted on 16/6/15
Maybe Bilic didnt think he needed a rb or thought maybe he'd rather buy one as a more permanent option.
Was he not first choice for West Ham and performed very well under Allardyce?
posted on 16/6/15
The fact that Arsenal wanted a £2mil loan fee may have had some bearing on his destination.
posted on 16/6/15
^indeed
posted on 16/6/15
Sunderland are a good club. Hopefully under advocat they play good football next season.
West ham probably want a permanent rb.
posted on 17/6/15
Bad move. Never going to be good enough for Arsenal. Never gonna want to sit on our bench and deputise for a kid. Should sell him when his stock is relatively high.
posted on 17/6/15
comment by 50 (U1147)
posted 13 hours, 9 minutes ago
He is now 23? If West Ham don't think he was good enough to pursue keeping him for a another season then that does tell its own story. At Arsenal there have been moments where he has shown he is good but then the bad moments have often been more in the spot light. Mainly because the mistakes he's made are so amateur. I don't think he is good enough to provide a good challenge to either Bellerin or Debuchy. Unless he's happy at being a second a string RB.
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WHU were interested but it looks like the deal with Sunderland was already in place.
posted on 17/6/15
I don't see why his stock can't get higher with a loan move to Sunderland.
Advocaat is a very good manager, and with the paucity of quality English right-backs - particularly if Kyle Walker continues his poor-form following injury - there's a reasonable chance he could break back into the England set-up if he has a good season.
He's still got 3 years left on his contract - with rumours that he's going to extend that - so it's not like we're going to lose much value from his contract reaching expiration.
The loan move just keeps our options open a little longer.
posted on 17/6/15
Has this been confirmed by arsenal or Sunderland? Last I heard he turned them down as he wants to stay in London and we are still working on it!
posted on 17/6/15
comment by Tomkins (U1116)
posted 4 hours, 26 minutes ago
Has this been confirmed by arsenal or Sunderland? Last I heard he turned them down as he wants to stay in London and we are still working on it!
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Not officially - a lot of reports though.
How did you think Jenkinson did for you last season, if you don't mind me asking? Did he impress much?
posted on 17/6/15
If he goes on loan it should be back to West Ham not Sunderland. Advocaat WAS a good manager. He did a decent job with Sunderland but be is still unproven imo. West Ham are bigger and better than Sunderland and will play attacking football under Bilic.
posted on 17/6/15
comment by Bats (U18355)
posted 1 hour, 38 minutes ago
If he goes on loan it should be back to West Ham not Sunderland. Advocaat WAS a good manager. He did a decent job with Sunderland but be is still unproven imo. West Ham are bigger and better than Sunderland and will play attacking football under Bilic.
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I agree - I'd prefer West Ham. However, if they choose not to pursue him, I don't see the problem with Jenkinson having a loan spell at Sunderland,.
posted on 17/6/15
He's snubbed Sunderland anyway, wants West Ham apparently.
Wonder if there was anything to the L'pool interest, would be a great move, he has the engine to play in their wing-back system, unsure of the skill though.
Probably a non-story but given their preference for English talent wouldn't be surprised.
posted on 18/6/15
Yep he was very very good for us last season. Want him back permanently!
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