The trade unions are a horrendous abomination of what they were initially designed for.
.................
Exactly.
No one would have an issue with the Trade Unions if they looked after workers rights.
But when they have different motives then they let these workers down. When you try and force an employer to pay wages he can not afford, only one thing will happen. Ask the British Leyland workers where greed got them.
"Interesting fact, banks have historically made far more money under Labour governments than Tory governments. Take that how you will."
Have you got a link to that?
comment by 李贝 If anyone can, Emre Can... And don't call me Schürrle (U3979)
posted 1 minute ago
The trade unions are a horrendous abomination of what they were initially designed for.
Get rid of them.
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Agreed, so corporations can do whatever they like to their employees
Great idea
"Meanwhile, here in the modern world the tax dodging multinationals & super-rich continue to do whatever the fluck they want as working people's collective power has been taken completely."
Interestingly the Toy government has introduced a diverted profits tax to combat the issue of the Googles and Amazons of this world. Its an issue that is being addressed globally but which the UK has taken an early stance on.
comment by ManUtdDaredevil (U9612)
posted 26 seconds ago
comment by 李贝 If anyone can, Emre Can... And don't call me Schürrle (U3979)
posted 1 minute ago
The trade unions are a horrendous abomination of what they were initially designed for.
Get rid of them.
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Agreed, so corporations can do whatever they like to their employees
Great idea
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Corporations are people, they are run by people, for people to usually provide a good or service to people.
Money does not grow on trees and it's about time the lefty idiots saw that!
Any news on when they will stop giving corporations "benefits."
comment by 李贝 If anyone can, Emre Can... And don't call me Schürrle (U3979)
posted 32 seconds ago
comment by ManUtdDaredevil (U9612)
posted 26 seconds ago
comment by 李贝 If anyone can, Emre Can... And don't call me Schürrle (U3979)
posted 1 minute ago
The trade unions are a horrendous abomination of what they were initially designed for.
Get rid of them.
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Agreed, so corporations can do whatever they like to their employees
Great idea
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Corporations are people, they are run by people, for people to usually provide a good or service to people.
Money does not grow on trees and it's about time the lefty idiots saw that!
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Corporations are not people, they are run by people who care about profits.
Without checks and balances they would destroy the common man. See 2008 for example.
Without regulations to check corporate excesses, you would not be able to drink water from a tap and the atmosphere would be poisoned by fossil fuels.
But please, let them do what they do, they are people after all
"Any news on when they will stop giving corporations "benefits.""
What benefits?
"Corporations are not people, they are run by people who care about profits."
And owned by pension funds in the majority. Know who benefit from those?
I find it quite frankly amazing that someone like me who benefits immensely from tory policy has issues with them.
Not everyone has had the advantages I have had in life. No one is asking the govt to not spend within its means but I do not understand why only the poor and middle class have to pay for an almighty mess created by stupid govts and irresponsible banks.
comment by Rover the hill and far away (U7040)
posted 2 seconds ago
"Any news on when they will stop giving corporations "benefits.""
What benefits?
"Corporations are not people, they are run by people who care about profits."
And owned by pension funds in the majority. Know who benefit from those?
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If you are not aware of the "benefits" corporations receive from the public purse, I would suggest you not contribute further to this debate
"If you are not aware of the "benefits" corporations receive from the public purse, I would suggest you not contribute further to this debate"
You could also go beyond soundbite politics. That is what everyone of your statements is.
Really? What sound bites are those? We get so many goodies from the govt that we do not need whilst those who need it are getting squeezed.
That is reprehensible
"You could also go beyond soundbite politics."
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Are you kidding? Have you seen your posts?
"Without regulations to check corporate excesses, you would not be able to drink water from a tap and the atmosphere would be poisoned by fossil fuels."
Sorry - I missed where this was serious conversation. Fair enough.
comment by Rover the hill and far away (U7040)
posted 59 seconds ago
"Without regulations to check corporate excesses, you would not be able to drink water from a tap and the atmosphere would be poisoned by fossil fuels."
Sorry - I missed where this was serious conversation. Fair enough.
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Go to the US and tell the people who have methane in their drinking water because of fracking or China where smog clouds dominate the atmosphere.
I'll give you an example in the UK. We got rid of food inspectors to save costs and we got horse in our beef.
Do you see where I am going?
Do you have a job? What sector do you work in?
comment by ManUtdDaredevil (U9612)
posted 5 minutes ago
I find it quite frankly amazing that someone like me who benefits immensely from tory policy has issues with them.
Not everyone has had the advantages I have had in life. No one is asking the govt to not spend within its means but I do not understand why only the poor and middle class have to pay for an almighty mess created by stupid govts and irresponsible banks.
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Agreed. I've been on both sides and I potentially stand to make more money under the Tories in the next few years as a business owner, but the reason many working class people like them is because they beleive that they will be earning copious amounts of money 'some-day' and the media hypes this up, making you think you're making a saving on the thousands of pounds you never had, and likely never will do.
And if you live 'Paycheck to paychekck' you are working class, I don't care what you say.
I really hope Labour choose someone that is electable. It's quite comical seeing some say they'd rather be in opposition than choose someone that is more center left. That's selfish and reminds me of religious fundamentalism.
If you actually care about society in general from a left wing point of view, then I would think you'd go for an electable candidate.
Used to be a Tory when I was younger but the more mature I became, I realised that there is a lot more to the world than my own selfish greed.
People like to make out that the tories are good on economic policy and business but it is BS.
We now have unprecedented debt under this tory govt and have been selling public assets for below their market value.
People who know about business and the economy should at least not sell a product below its value.
My bad, they did, who did they sell it to, their mates.
No, you're wrong. A decent opposition is fundamental in an adversarial political system - the tories can be in government until the day I die for all I care, dut unless there's a decent opposition it'll be just like the last 20 odd years - same people in government, just a different colour tie.
^I was responding to 'honest' btw.
comment by ManUtdDaredevil (U9612)
posted 17 seconds ago
Used to be a Tory when I was younger but the more mature I became, I realised that there is a lot more to the world than my own selfish greed.
People like to make out that the tories are good on economic policy and business but it is BS.
We now have unprecedented debt under this tory govt and have been selling public assets for below their market value.
People who know about business and the economy should at least not sell a product below its value.
My bad, they did, who did they sell it to, their mates.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Exactly, yet JC is criticised for wanting to buy back profitable public infrastructure
In the news atm: Cameron won't serve a 3rd Term - Of course not, time to call in all those favours
What people need to understand that corporations own our politicians. That is why an Australian has so much influence over British and American policy.
The Oil and Gas industry threatened Osborne and he cowered like a little girl.
The clowns in Labour are the same, all bowing to corporate interests when they are supposed to look after our interests.
Look at how terrified people are of Corbyn who said and I am paraphrasing; "make no mistake, we have to get the deficit down, however, we have to make sure the right people are paying for it."
People like to make out that the tories are good on economic policy and business but it is BS.
...................
They seem to be better at it than Labour.
comment by HenrysCat (U3608)
posted 1 minute ago
No, you're wrong. A decent opposition is fundamental in an adversarial political system - the tories can be in government until the day I die for all I care, dut unless there's a decent opposition it'll be just like the last 20 odd years - same people in government, just a different colour tie.
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Exactly, agree 100%
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 1 minute ago
People like to make out that the tories are good on economic policy and business but it is BS.
...................
They seem to be better at it than Labour.
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The national debt suggests otherwise
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posted on 17/8/15
The trade unions are a horrendous abomination of what they were initially designed for.
.................
Exactly.
No one would have an issue with the Trade Unions if they looked after workers rights.
But when they have different motives then they let these workers down. When you try and force an employer to pay wages he can not afford, only one thing will happen. Ask the British Leyland workers where greed got them.
posted on 17/8/15
"Interesting fact, banks have historically made far more money under Labour governments than Tory governments. Take that how you will."
Have you got a link to that?
posted on 17/8/15
comment by 李贝 If anyone can, Emre Can... And don't call me Schürrle (U3979)
posted 1 minute ago
The trade unions are a horrendous abomination of what they were initially designed for.
Get rid of them.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Agreed, so corporations can do whatever they like to their employees
Great idea
posted on 17/8/15
"Meanwhile, here in the modern world the tax dodging multinationals & super-rich continue to do whatever the fluck they want as working people's collective power has been taken completely."
Interestingly the Toy government has introduced a diverted profits tax to combat the issue of the Googles and Amazons of this world. Its an issue that is being addressed globally but which the UK has taken an early stance on.
posted on 17/8/15
comment by ManUtdDaredevil (U9612)
posted 26 seconds ago
comment by 李贝 If anyone can, Emre Can... And don't call me Schürrle (U3979)
posted 1 minute ago
The trade unions are a horrendous abomination of what they were initially designed for.
Get rid of them.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Agreed, so corporations can do whatever they like to their employees
Great idea
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Corporations are people, they are run by people, for people to usually provide a good or service to people.
Money does not grow on trees and it's about time the lefty idiots saw that!
posted on 17/8/15
Any news on when they will stop giving corporations "benefits."
posted on 17/8/15
comment by 李贝 If anyone can, Emre Can... And don't call me Schürrle (U3979)
posted 32 seconds ago
comment by ManUtdDaredevil (U9612)
posted 26 seconds ago
comment by 李贝 If anyone can, Emre Can... And don't call me Schürrle (U3979)
posted 1 minute ago
The trade unions are a horrendous abomination of what they were initially designed for.
Get rid of them.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Agreed, so corporations can do whatever they like to their employees
Great idea
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Corporations are people, they are run by people, for people to usually provide a good or service to people.
Money does not grow on trees and it's about time the lefty idiots saw that!
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Corporations are not people, they are run by people who care about profits.
Without checks and balances they would destroy the common man. See 2008 for example.
Without regulations to check corporate excesses, you would not be able to drink water from a tap and the atmosphere would be poisoned by fossil fuels.
But please, let them do what they do, they are people after all
posted on 17/8/15
"Any news on when they will stop giving corporations "benefits.""
What benefits?
"Corporations are not people, they are run by people who care about profits."
And owned by pension funds in the majority. Know who benefit from those?
posted on 17/8/15
I find it quite frankly amazing that someone like me who benefits immensely from tory policy has issues with them.
Not everyone has had the advantages I have had in life. No one is asking the govt to not spend within its means but I do not understand why only the poor and middle class have to pay for an almighty mess created by stupid govts and irresponsible banks.
posted on 17/8/15
comment by Rover the hill and far away (U7040)
posted 2 seconds ago
"Any news on when they will stop giving corporations "benefits.""
What benefits?
"Corporations are not people, they are run by people who care about profits."
And owned by pension funds in the majority. Know who benefit from those?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
If you are not aware of the "benefits" corporations receive from the public purse, I would suggest you not contribute further to this debate
posted on 17/8/15
"If you are not aware of the "benefits" corporations receive from the public purse, I would suggest you not contribute further to this debate"
You could also go beyond soundbite politics. That is what everyone of your statements is.
posted on 17/8/15
Really? What sound bites are those? We get so many goodies from the govt that we do not need whilst those who need it are getting squeezed.
That is reprehensible
posted on 17/8/15
"You could also go beyond soundbite politics."
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Are you kidding? Have you seen your posts?
posted on 17/8/15
"Without regulations to check corporate excesses, you would not be able to drink water from a tap and the atmosphere would be poisoned by fossil fuels."
Sorry - I missed where this was serious conversation. Fair enough.
posted on 17/8/15
comment by Rover the hill and far away (U7040)
posted 59 seconds ago
"Without regulations to check corporate excesses, you would not be able to drink water from a tap and the atmosphere would be poisoned by fossil fuels."
Sorry - I missed where this was serious conversation. Fair enough.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Go to the US and tell the people who have methane in their drinking water because of fracking or China where smog clouds dominate the atmosphere.
I'll give you an example in the UK. We got rid of food inspectors to save costs and we got horse in our beef.
Do you see where I am going?
Do you have a job? What sector do you work in?
posted on 17/8/15
comment by ManUtdDaredevil (U9612)
posted 5 minutes ago
I find it quite frankly amazing that someone like me who benefits immensely from tory policy has issues with them.
Not everyone has had the advantages I have had in life. No one is asking the govt to not spend within its means but I do not understand why only the poor and middle class have to pay for an almighty mess created by stupid govts and irresponsible banks.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Agreed. I've been on both sides and I potentially stand to make more money under the Tories in the next few years as a business owner, but the reason many working class people like them is because they beleive that they will be earning copious amounts of money 'some-day' and the media hypes this up, making you think you're making a saving on the thousands of pounds you never had, and likely never will do.
And if you live 'Paycheck to paychekck' you are working class, I don't care what you say.
posted on 17/8/15
I really hope Labour choose someone that is electable. It's quite comical seeing some say they'd rather be in opposition than choose someone that is more center left. That's selfish and reminds me of religious fundamentalism.
If you actually care about society in general from a left wing point of view, then I would think you'd go for an electable candidate.
posted on 17/8/15
Used to be a Tory when I was younger but the more mature I became, I realised that there is a lot more to the world than my own selfish greed.
People like to make out that the tories are good on economic policy and business but it is BS.
We now have unprecedented debt under this tory govt and have been selling public assets for below their market value.
People who know about business and the economy should at least not sell a product below its value.
My bad, they did, who did they sell it to, their mates.
posted on 17/8/15
No, you're wrong. A decent opposition is fundamental in an adversarial political system - the tories can be in government until the day I die for all I care, dut unless there's a decent opposition it'll be just like the last 20 odd years - same people in government, just a different colour tie.
posted on 17/8/15
^I was responding to 'honest' btw.
posted on 17/8/15
comment by ManUtdDaredevil (U9612)
posted 17 seconds ago
Used to be a Tory when I was younger but the more mature I became, I realised that there is a lot more to the world than my own selfish greed.
People like to make out that the tories are good on economic policy and business but it is BS.
We now have unprecedented debt under this tory govt and have been selling public assets for below their market value.
People who know about business and the economy should at least not sell a product below its value.
My bad, they did, who did they sell it to, their mates.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Exactly, yet JC is criticised for wanting to buy back profitable public infrastructure
In the news atm: Cameron won't serve a 3rd Term - Of course not, time to call in all those favours
posted on 17/8/15
What people need to understand that corporations own our politicians. That is why an Australian has so much influence over British and American policy.
The Oil and Gas industry threatened Osborne and he cowered like a little girl.
The clowns in Labour are the same, all bowing to corporate interests when they are supposed to look after our interests.
Look at how terrified people are of Corbyn who said and I am paraphrasing; "make no mistake, we have to get the deficit down, however, we have to make sure the right people are paying for it."
posted on 17/8/15
People like to make out that the tories are good on economic policy and business but it is BS.
...................
They seem to be better at it than Labour.
posted on 17/8/15
comment by HenrysCat (U3608)
posted 1 minute ago
No, you're wrong. A decent opposition is fundamental in an adversarial political system - the tories can be in government until the day I die for all I care, dut unless there's a decent opposition it'll be just like the last 20 odd years - same people in government, just a different colour tie.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Exactly, agree 100%
posted on 17/8/15
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 1 minute ago
People like to make out that the tories are good on economic policy and business but it is BS.
...................
They seem to be better at it than Labour.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The national debt suggests otherwise
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