Time for a change in manager ?
It's been WELL overdue !
Agree that this season is not a one off.
The overall quality of the PL has been in decline for a number of years. This is demonstrated in European performances, which has seen the regression of the PL coefficient.
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? (U3126)
posted 2 minutes ago
Agree that this season is not a one off.
The overall quality of the PL has been in decline for a number of years. This is demonstrated in European performances, which has seen the regression of the PL coefficient.
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The European rankings are a hard nut to crack tbh. The EPL has been increasingly improving its pool of talent. We've seen even mid-table clubs comfortably compete for £18 million players.
Can't really explain it myself.
The top teams have got worse or no better and the mid table and below clubs can now buy better than they could before with more money coming in.
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? (U3126)
posted 9 minutes ago
Agree that this season is not a one off.
The overall quality of the PL has been in decline for a number of years. This is demonstrated in European performances, which has seen the regression of the PL coefficient.
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In theory yes, the league may seem weaker but I think it's a combination of the top teams being slightly weaker and the mid-table teams being stronger due to signing better players, so the results for the top teams are significantly poorer generally. The quality in the league is more evenly spread these days.
Gillespie Rd
Agree. However PL sides have paid vast amounts for some very average players. Both in fees and wages. TV revenue will only add to this.
While the PL has the most money, I don’t think it’s been (generally) well spent.
The possible permutations for the league table at the end of every season, are always a zero-sum game. For every match won, someone else has to lose. For every draw, two sides jump up by a point.
For every Leicester or Tottenham, a Chelsea or a City.
Wouldn't the teams who ended up at the top have to improve proportionally to those propping them up? Thus improving their overall quality?
Both Everton and Newcastle both topped e100m broadcast revenue last year. This was more than (both) Milan clubs, Atletico Madrid, and Dortmund.
With the new PL deal, and international broadcast rights still to be negotiated, I can see PL clubs forming two thirds of the richest clubs in the world. Mindful of this information selling clubs have (and will) extract as much as they can from PL clubs – for (sometimes) mediocre talent.
A natural inflation of costs would be expected, but the situation on the ground tells a different story. We've seen a consistent concentration of the best minds in management. This has brought new ideas and enlarged the scouting networks.
Practically every side has at least a couple of game-changing players.
As a Spurs fan we are having a good season. But I was looking at past results from prior seasons. When we beat you guys 2-1 in March 2013, that moved us into 4th position with 54 points from 27 games.
That's a point fewer than we have now, and we have now played two more, yet we are possible contenders for the title.
I think that shows the league has declined steadily in recent years.
For the record I don't think we will win the title, but we are seen as a contender
Our pts total this year will be a disgrace, i predicted ~75pts and missing out on the title by 6-10 pts.
I don't see how anybody can say 'the league has declined considerably' by looking at the number of points a team has gained relative to previous year's figures.
To me, that suggests the league is more competitive, and results are more evenly distributed throughout the league. The 'big' teams are losing and drawing more - but surely this means the 'smaller' teams are winning and drawing more?
It's only really our EPL teams in the CL that can indicate a decline or not, and even then results are more evenly spread. It will be the same old same old in the final stages, but sdaly without EPL teams unless we're lucky.
comment by palmers_spur (R.I.P. Ziggy) (U8896)
posted 2 minutes ago
As a Spurs fan we are having a good season. But I was looking at past results from prior seasons. When we beat you guys 2-1 in March 2013, that moved us into 4th position with 54 points from 27 games.
That's a point fewer than we have now, and we have now played two more, yet we are possible contenders for the title.
I think that shows the league has declined steadily in recent years.
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The point I was making in the article is that this season is far from unique. Some faces might be different, but the total tallies have stayed the same for a decade.
Interesting article. I think there are two major incidents that have shaped Arsenal's lack of progression. In 2007 we fired David Dein. There was a takeover in 2012.
The invincibles came to an end c2006. Natural life cycle of a team and Wenger has never been able to build a title winning team since Dein's sacking. Wenger had somewhat of an excuse from 2007-2012 because of a lack of funds. However we are now in 2016, that is 4 years where he has had a lot of funds. The fact that Spurs and Leicester are ahead of us this season, who spend far less on wages, shows there are no excuses left and frankly Wenger should quit if we don't win the league.
comment by Jenius99 (U4918)
posted 5 minutes ago
Interesting article. I think there are two major incidents that have shaped Arsenal's lack of progression. In 2007 we fired David Dein. There was a takeover in 2012.
The invincibles came to an end c2006. Natural life cycle of a team and Wenger has never been able to build a title winning team since Dein's sacking. Wenger had somewhat of an excuse from 2007-2012 because of a lack of funds. However we are now in 2016, that is 4 years where he has had a lot of funds. The fact that Spurs and Leicester are ahead of us this season, who spend far less on wages, shows there are no excuses left and frankly Wenger should quit if we don't win the league.
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Good luck getting any transfer cash in the summer, now that we've proven that CL football can be had with virtually no transfers coming in.
Gillespie, I don't think we can equate transfer funds with our unique problem. The weakness that Wenger has had since he started managing Arsenal. He does not know how to identify problems with players quickly enough to make changes that can have a positive affect before the problem impact the team.
I think Wenger convinced himself that had we kept Cesc, Nasri, RVP we would be winning the league. However our problems with the goalkeeper and poor defenders like Senderos, Djrou, Cygan, Vermalean, Eboue or the poor holding players like Song, Denilson meant we wasted the talent going forward. I won't even mention the weak goalkeepers we kept around. Thats why it is obvious he has stuck by players like Arteta, Giroud, Mertesacker for far longer than if Dein had been still on the board.
Wenger has money to spend and will have loads of it in the summer. But I doubt he will be able to spend if wisely.
By the way you get c£50m if you win the Champions League. You get £99m from TV money alone for being relegated from the premier league. The Champions League money is pretty much an irrelevance these days.
While CL revenue is no longer as important (to PL clubs) as it once was, it is vital when in the market for new players.
While J99 will maintain the Dein narrative at any opportunity, David Dein is not a centre forward. Which in reality is the fundamental reason why we (in all likelihood) will far short this season.
Midfield issues, injuries, and tactical arguments aside, had Arsenal a 20+ a season (PL) goal scorer the league position would have been considerably healthier. Nevertheless the club’s major summer target (Benzema) chose to remain at Madrid. A bigger and better club than Arsenal.
"..the club’s major summer target (Benzema) chose to remain at Madrid. A bigger and better club than Arsenal."
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Whilst this maybe true, it raises two problems. Firstly, the manager's lack of humility in accepting that if his first choice is unavailable, move on to plan B.
Secondly, if plan B is unavailable, (or in our case seemingly non-existent) strengthen our areas of the squad.
He may be CM forgiven for not strengthening CM - though whether he should or shouldn't still be putting faith in Wilshere or not is another point entirely - but our wide positions have seen us, at various stages this season relying on players such as Campbell, Walcott and Gibbs.
And when you consider the funds available to the manager, it is not only unfathomable, but unforgivable.
* strengthen other areas...
Lexington
Agree to an extent but can’t see the point of AW bringing in a lesser CF if he didn’t think he was the right player.
He obviously thought (and on paper we were) strong enough in the other areas, with the exception being cover for Coq. I’m not so sure Schneiderlin (seeing him at United) is the player many believed he was.
Elneny was impressive against Spurs so hopeful he can develop into a strong player for us.
However, I agree that should Arsenal fall short this season questions need to be asked – whether they are answered….
comment by Jenius99 (U4918)
posted 59 minutes ago
Interesting article. I think there are two major incidents that have shaped Arsenal's lack of progression. In 2007 we fired David Dein. There was a takeover in 2012.
The invincibles came to an end c2006. Natural life cycle of a team and Wenger has never been able to build a title winning team since Dein's sacking. Wenger had somewhat of an excuse from 2007-2012 because of a lack of funds. However we are now in 2016, that is 4 years where he has had a lot of funds. The fact that Spurs and Leicester are ahead of us this season, who spend far less on wages, shows there are no excuses left and frankly Wenger should quit if we don't win the league.
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Agreed. The entire country knew that Cech alone was not enough last summer. People were predicting us falling short because of failure to buy outfield players. And the embarrassing thing for AW is that not only did the whole country know we needed to buy outfield players, the knew specifically that we needed to reinforce at DM. EVERYBODY knew it was Coquelin whom had made the difference and everybody knew we'd go straight back under the kosh if we lost him. As it stood, we lost him AND Cazorla. Excrutiatingly highlighting Wenger's summer failure...
That the entire bloody country saw and talked about all summer whilst he bought nobody. Arsene I believe does have a sense of honour etc. That and the certain "Class" he's always carried himself with, for me anyway, dictate that he HAS to step down if we are beaten to this league title by Leicester or Spurs.
I can respect that he chose to keep faith in his players. I can respect that he decided Cech alone was enough. I can respect his "Gamble." But HE should respect that it was HIS gamble and so HIS failure. When you stuff up that badly, you RESIGN, taking all responsibility for your failure. Thus said organisation can draw a line under your failure making changes with little resistance.
In short, Leicester or Spurs win the league and Arsene Wenger needs to get to "Falling on his sword."
Pearce if you have some comment to make on what I have stated on Dein, reply to me with a counter point, not write in some third vernacular. What it shows is that you have no idea how our board was structured and what input management had over Arsene Wenger.
Your point on the centre forward problem strengthens my argument. We have gone through many centre forwards in the past not waited for them to suddenly become something they are not. Giroud was bought as a ready made solution not a development project like Walcott or even Welbeck. In the past Dein would have been consulted and in all probability Giroud would have sold a couple of years ago. It was quite obvious that Wenger dithered over Suarez allowing the Higauin deal to fall apart. So Wenger obviously had intentions of replacing Giroud. But he famously dithered as usual. You only have to look at players like Kaba Diawarra or Wreh as to how quickly they were moved on when Dein had influence over Wenger.
I am not the only one who has pinpointed our problems as Wenger having too much power. In the recent past Nina Bracewell Smith and Edleman have said similar things. Its on record that Wenger sat in on interviews held with Gazidis because of Fiszman's failing health. It is the probably only time a subordinate has actually gone into the decision making process of hiring his boss at corporate level.
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? (U3126)
posted 12 minutes ago
Lexington
Agree to an extent but can’t see the point of AW bringing in a lesser CF if he didn’t think he was the right player.
He obviously thought (and on paper we were) strong enough in the other areas, with the exception being cover for Coq. I’m not so sure Schneiderlin (seeing him at United) is the player many believed he was.
Elneny was impressive against Spurs so hopeful he can develop into a strong player for us.
However, I agree that should Arsenal fall short this season questions need to be asked – whether they are answered….
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We weren't strong enough on paper though. That same paper would have told him of the high likelihood of injury and recurrent injury. "On paper" we needed to buy in a couple of players. There is genuinely no excuse here. Why on earth would anyone have looked out our team in the summer, looked at the last ten years and not have simply assumed they had to buy a couple of players, purely down to the fact that we would likely lose more than our fair share to injury?? Let alone ARSENE BLOODY WENGER!?? WTF Lex, if there's one man whom should have 100% known we HAD to get a couple of players because injuries would wipe out a few, it's him. But instead, he somehow manages to come to the insane conclusion that this season would be different. This season no key player would be injured for more than one or two games. It's the most perplexing decision in his tenure IMO. There was absolutely no logical reason for his decision. It's hands down, "the decision that cost the title," if we don't win it.
The decision was that bizarre that I do actually question whether he is not now simply too old for the job he is doing. Not his style etc. His mind. Is he rrreally still 100% compus mentus? I'm not actually so sure he is. Smacks of the old man in the "early stages of..." who knows he's beginning to lose his mind but is still together enough to fake his way through his day to day life...only him, his missus and his best mate know the truth. That kind of scenario. He's certainly old enough and that decision last summer was certainly crazy enough. Ahem...retirement party please. Before he leaves his pyjamas on for match day or worse
Wenger will probably feel he's done little wrong and cite that it was just that, a freak one-off season where all the usual suspects were poor, not just Arsenal. He always seems to have an excuse regardless of whether it's valid or not, and fan anger has little to no effect on him.
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posted on 7/3/16
Time for a change in manager ?
It's been WELL overdue !
posted on 7/3/16
Agree that this season is not a one off.
The overall quality of the PL has been in decline for a number of years. This is demonstrated in European performances, which has seen the regression of the PL coefficient.
posted on 7/3/16
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? (U3126)
posted 2 minutes ago
Agree that this season is not a one off.
The overall quality of the PL has been in decline for a number of years. This is demonstrated in European performances, which has seen the regression of the PL coefficient.
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The European rankings are a hard nut to crack tbh. The EPL has been increasingly improving its pool of talent. We've seen even mid-table clubs comfortably compete for £18 million players.
Can't really explain it myself.
posted on 7/3/16
The top teams have got worse or no better and the mid table and below clubs can now buy better than they could before with more money coming in.
posted on 7/3/16
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? (U3126)
posted 9 minutes ago
Agree that this season is not a one off.
The overall quality of the PL has been in decline for a number of years. This is demonstrated in European performances, which has seen the regression of the PL coefficient.
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In theory yes, the league may seem weaker but I think it's a combination of the top teams being slightly weaker and the mid-table teams being stronger due to signing better players, so the results for the top teams are significantly poorer generally. The quality in the league is more evenly spread these days.
posted on 7/3/16
Gillespie Rd
Agree. However PL sides have paid vast amounts for some very average players. Both in fees and wages. TV revenue will only add to this.
While the PL has the most money, I don’t think it’s been (generally) well spent.
posted on 7/3/16
The possible permutations for the league table at the end of every season, are always a zero-sum game. For every match won, someone else has to lose. For every draw, two sides jump up by a point.
For every Leicester or Tottenham, a Chelsea or a City.
Wouldn't the teams who ended up at the top have to improve proportionally to those propping them up? Thus improving their overall quality?
posted on 7/3/16
Both Everton and Newcastle both topped e100m broadcast revenue last year. This was more than (both) Milan clubs, Atletico Madrid, and Dortmund.
With the new PL deal, and international broadcast rights still to be negotiated, I can see PL clubs forming two thirds of the richest clubs in the world. Mindful of this information selling clubs have (and will) extract as much as they can from PL clubs – for (sometimes) mediocre talent.
posted on 7/3/16
A natural inflation of costs would be expected, but the situation on the ground tells a different story. We've seen a consistent concentration of the best minds in management. This has brought new ideas and enlarged the scouting networks.
Practically every side has at least a couple of game-changing players.
posted on 7/3/16
As a Spurs fan we are having a good season. But I was looking at past results from prior seasons. When we beat you guys 2-1 in March 2013, that moved us into 4th position with 54 points from 27 games.
That's a point fewer than we have now, and we have now played two more, yet we are possible contenders for the title.
I think that shows the league has declined steadily in recent years.
posted on 7/3/16
For the record I don't think we will win the title, but we are seen as a contender
posted on 7/3/16
Our pts total this year will be a disgrace, i predicted ~75pts and missing out on the title by 6-10 pts.
posted on 7/3/16
I don't see how anybody can say 'the league has declined considerably' by looking at the number of points a team has gained relative to previous year's figures.
To me, that suggests the league is more competitive, and results are more evenly distributed throughout the league. The 'big' teams are losing and drawing more - but surely this means the 'smaller' teams are winning and drawing more?
It's only really our EPL teams in the CL that can indicate a decline or not, and even then results are more evenly spread. It will be the same old same old in the final stages, but sdaly without EPL teams unless we're lucky.
posted on 7/3/16
comment by palmers_spur (R.I.P. Ziggy) (U8896)
posted 2 minutes ago
As a Spurs fan we are having a good season. But I was looking at past results from prior seasons. When we beat you guys 2-1 in March 2013, that moved us into 4th position with 54 points from 27 games.
That's a point fewer than we have now, and we have now played two more, yet we are possible contenders for the title.
I think that shows the league has declined steadily in recent years.
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The point I was making in the article is that this season is far from unique. Some faces might be different, but the total tallies have stayed the same for a decade.
posted on 7/3/16
Interesting article. I think there are two major incidents that have shaped Arsenal's lack of progression. In 2007 we fired David Dein. There was a takeover in 2012.
The invincibles came to an end c2006. Natural life cycle of a team and Wenger has never been able to build a title winning team since Dein's sacking. Wenger had somewhat of an excuse from 2007-2012 because of a lack of funds. However we are now in 2016, that is 4 years where he has had a lot of funds. The fact that Spurs and Leicester are ahead of us this season, who spend far less on wages, shows there are no excuses left and frankly Wenger should quit if we don't win the league.
posted on 7/3/16
comment by Jenius99 (U4918)
posted 5 minutes ago
Interesting article. I think there are two major incidents that have shaped Arsenal's lack of progression. In 2007 we fired David Dein. There was a takeover in 2012.
The invincibles came to an end c2006. Natural life cycle of a team and Wenger has never been able to build a title winning team since Dein's sacking. Wenger had somewhat of an excuse from 2007-2012 because of a lack of funds. However we are now in 2016, that is 4 years where he has had a lot of funds. The fact that Spurs and Leicester are ahead of us this season, who spend far less on wages, shows there are no excuses left and frankly Wenger should quit if we don't win the league.
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Good luck getting any transfer cash in the summer, now that we've proven that CL football can be had with virtually no transfers coming in.
posted on 7/3/16
Gillespie, I don't think we can equate transfer funds with our unique problem. The weakness that Wenger has had since he started managing Arsenal. He does not know how to identify problems with players quickly enough to make changes that can have a positive affect before the problem impact the team.
I think Wenger convinced himself that had we kept Cesc, Nasri, RVP we would be winning the league. However our problems with the goalkeeper and poor defenders like Senderos, Djrou, Cygan, Vermalean, Eboue or the poor holding players like Song, Denilson meant we wasted the talent going forward. I won't even mention the weak goalkeepers we kept around. Thats why it is obvious he has stuck by players like Arteta, Giroud, Mertesacker for far longer than if Dein had been still on the board.
Wenger has money to spend and will have loads of it in the summer. But I doubt he will be able to spend if wisely.
By the way you get c£50m if you win the Champions League. You get £99m from TV money alone for being relegated from the premier league. The Champions League money is pretty much an irrelevance these days.
posted on 7/3/16
While CL revenue is no longer as important (to PL clubs) as it once was, it is vital when in the market for new players.
While J99 will maintain the Dein narrative at any opportunity, David Dein is not a centre forward. Which in reality is the fundamental reason why we (in all likelihood) will far short this season.
Midfield issues, injuries, and tactical arguments aside, had Arsenal a 20+ a season (PL) goal scorer the league position would have been considerably healthier. Nevertheless the club’s major summer target (Benzema) chose to remain at Madrid. A bigger and better club than Arsenal.
posted on 7/3/16
"..the club’s major summer target (Benzema) chose to remain at Madrid. A bigger and better club than Arsenal."
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Whilst this maybe true, it raises two problems. Firstly, the manager's lack of humility in accepting that if his first choice is unavailable, move on to plan B.
Secondly, if plan B is unavailable, (or in our case seemingly non-existent) strengthen our areas of the squad.
He may be CM forgiven for not strengthening CM - though whether he should or shouldn't still be putting faith in Wilshere or not is another point entirely - but our wide positions have seen us, at various stages this season relying on players such as Campbell, Walcott and Gibbs.
And when you consider the funds available to the manager, it is not only unfathomable, but unforgivable.
posted on 7/3/16
* strengthen other areas...
posted on 7/3/16
Lexington
Agree to an extent but can’t see the point of AW bringing in a lesser CF if he didn’t think he was the right player.
He obviously thought (and on paper we were) strong enough in the other areas, with the exception being cover for Coq. I’m not so sure Schneiderlin (seeing him at United) is the player many believed he was.
Elneny was impressive against Spurs so hopeful he can develop into a strong player for us.
However, I agree that should Arsenal fall short this season questions need to be asked – whether they are answered….
posted on 7/3/16
comment by Jenius99 (U4918)
posted 59 minutes ago
Interesting article. I think there are two major incidents that have shaped Arsenal's lack of progression. In 2007 we fired David Dein. There was a takeover in 2012.
The invincibles came to an end c2006. Natural life cycle of a team and Wenger has never been able to build a title winning team since Dein's sacking. Wenger had somewhat of an excuse from 2007-2012 because of a lack of funds. However we are now in 2016, that is 4 years where he has had a lot of funds. The fact that Spurs and Leicester are ahead of us this season, who spend far less on wages, shows there are no excuses left and frankly Wenger should quit if we don't win the league.
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Agreed. The entire country knew that Cech alone was not enough last summer. People were predicting us falling short because of failure to buy outfield players. And the embarrassing thing for AW is that not only did the whole country know we needed to buy outfield players, the knew specifically that we needed to reinforce at DM. EVERYBODY knew it was Coquelin whom had made the difference and everybody knew we'd go straight back under the kosh if we lost him. As it stood, we lost him AND Cazorla. Excrutiatingly highlighting Wenger's summer failure...
That the entire bloody country saw and talked about all summer whilst he bought nobody. Arsene I believe does have a sense of honour etc. That and the certain "Class" he's always carried himself with, for me anyway, dictate that he HAS to step down if we are beaten to this league title by Leicester or Spurs.
I can respect that he chose to keep faith in his players. I can respect that he decided Cech alone was enough. I can respect his "Gamble." But HE should respect that it was HIS gamble and so HIS failure. When you stuff up that badly, you RESIGN, taking all responsibility for your failure. Thus said organisation can draw a line under your failure making changes with little resistance.
In short, Leicester or Spurs win the league and Arsene Wenger needs to get to "Falling on his sword."
posted on 7/3/16
Pearce if you have some comment to make on what I have stated on Dein, reply to me with a counter point, not write in some third vernacular. What it shows is that you have no idea how our board was structured and what input management had over Arsene Wenger.
Your point on the centre forward problem strengthens my argument. We have gone through many centre forwards in the past not waited for them to suddenly become something they are not. Giroud was bought as a ready made solution not a development project like Walcott or even Welbeck. In the past Dein would have been consulted and in all probability Giroud would have sold a couple of years ago. It was quite obvious that Wenger dithered over Suarez allowing the Higauin deal to fall apart. So Wenger obviously had intentions of replacing Giroud. But he famously dithered as usual. You only have to look at players like Kaba Diawarra or Wreh as to how quickly they were moved on when Dein had influence over Wenger.
I am not the only one who has pinpointed our problems as Wenger having too much power. In the recent past Nina Bracewell Smith and Edleman have said similar things. Its on record that Wenger sat in on interviews held with Gazidis because of Fiszman's failing health. It is the probably only time a subordinate has actually gone into the decision making process of hiring his boss at corporate level.
posted on 7/3/16
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? (U3126)
posted 12 minutes ago
Lexington
Agree to an extent but can’t see the point of AW bringing in a lesser CF if he didn’t think he was the right player.
He obviously thought (and on paper we were) strong enough in the other areas, with the exception being cover for Coq. I’m not so sure Schneiderlin (seeing him at United) is the player many believed he was.
Elneny was impressive against Spurs so hopeful he can develop into a strong player for us.
However, I agree that should Arsenal fall short this season questions need to be asked – whether they are answered….
----------------------------------------------------------------------
We weren't strong enough on paper though. That same paper would have told him of the high likelihood of injury and recurrent injury. "On paper" we needed to buy in a couple of players. There is genuinely no excuse here. Why on earth would anyone have looked out our team in the summer, looked at the last ten years and not have simply assumed they had to buy a couple of players, purely down to the fact that we would likely lose more than our fair share to injury?? Let alone ARSENE BLOODY WENGER!?? WTF Lex, if there's one man whom should have 100% known we HAD to get a couple of players because injuries would wipe out a few, it's him. But instead, he somehow manages to come to the insane conclusion that this season would be different. This season no key player would be injured for more than one or two games. It's the most perplexing decision in his tenure IMO. There was absolutely no logical reason for his decision. It's hands down, "the decision that cost the title," if we don't win it.
The decision was that bizarre that I do actually question whether he is not now simply too old for the job he is doing. Not his style etc. His mind. Is he rrreally still 100% compus mentus? I'm not actually so sure he is. Smacks of the old man in the "early stages of..." who knows he's beginning to lose his mind but is still together enough to fake his way through his day to day life...only him, his missus and his best mate know the truth. That kind of scenario. He's certainly old enough and that decision last summer was certainly crazy enough. Ahem...retirement party please. Before he leaves his pyjamas on for match day or worse
posted on 7/3/16
Wenger will probably feel he's done little wrong and cite that it was just that, a freak one-off season where all the usual suspects were poor, not just Arsenal. He always seems to have an excuse regardless of whether it's valid or not, and fan anger has little to no effect on him.
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