What's the Homegrown situation like like if we allow these 2 to leave?

Not sure . Anyone know ?

I wouldn't let them both go, but wouldn't be bothered if either left. I'd be happier to keep Smalling rather than Jones.

I'd certainly bin off Jones at this. Decent player but when never fit what's the point?

Also regardless the home grown issue Cornelius, just bring in Michael Keane

Maybe we might bring in Keane and Lindelof

More reliability

Fact is, that with these 2 as a CB pairing we can't win the PL or the CL again imo.

So if they do go (who can blame them after what Jose has been accusing them of) they will have to be replaced by better defenders (who are not as prone to making as many frequent individual errors, as the both do ...or even long term injuries.)

comment by Cornelius Oofterom (U15867)
posted 14 minutes ago
What's the Homegrown situation like like if we allow these 2 to leave?
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This is a big point.... not just with these 2 but if we expect Rooney to go... Carricks situation is unclear... Ashley Youngs only really recently featured

comment by Shugs (U14253)
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comment by Cornelius Oofterom (U15867)
posted 14 minutes ago
What's the Homegrown situation like like if we allow these 2 to leave?
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This is a big point.... not just with these 2 but if we expect Rooney to go... Carricks situation is unclear... Ashley Youngs only really recently featured


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Good point. We still have Shaw, Rashford, Lingard and don't TFM and Pogba count? How many do we need?

comment by The Process (U20671)
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comment by Shugs (U14253)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Cornelius Oofterom (U15867)
posted 14 minutes ago
What's the Homegrown situation like like if we allow these 2 to leave?
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This is a big point.... not just with these 2 but if we expect Rooney to go... Carricks situation is unclear... Ashley Youngs only really recently featured


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Good point. We still have Shaw, Rashford, Lingard and don't TFM and Pogba count? How many do we need?
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I thought Pogba fell just short of the time needed to be classed as home grown... might be wrong

Technically I dont think you don't need any... but you can only name a squad containing 18 non homegrown... so you name 7 homegrown in your 25 or make do with a reduced squad.

TFM and Axl still count as under 21s so don't particularly need named in the 25

Could be part of why we're supposedly back in for Keane tbh

Smalling I always expected to turn out to be a good but not top level defender. Something akin to Raul Albiol.

Jones I thought had potential too, but I expected more of a squad player from him. Versatile destroyer and disrupter of play.

In an ideal world where they could stay fit, I'd have them both on a United bench. The cream of the crop however, they are not.

It's a sad day when Smalling is actually England's best central defender.

Personally I'd keep Young next season. Reliable, solid player who is happy to be bit part and doesn't let us down when he does play

comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 2 minutes ago
Personally I'd keep Young next season. Reliable, solid player who is happy to be bit part and doesn't let us down when he does play
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100%. Turned out to be a versatile player who never conplains, works hard and is willing to play once a month or so. Keep.

comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 1 hour, 1 minute ago
comment by Shugs (U14253)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Cornelius Oofterom (U15867)
posted 14 minutes ago
What's the Homegrown situation like like if we allow these 2 to leave?
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This is a big point.... not just with these 2 but if we expect Rooney to go... Carricks situation is unclear... Ashley Youngs only really recently featured


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Good point. We still have Shaw, Rashford, Lingard and don't TFM and Pogba count? How many do we need?
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It doesn't matter how many homegrown players we have. It only matters how many non-homegrown players.

Of those, we currently have:

DDG
Romero
Valencia
Bailly
Rojo
Blind
Darmian
Herrera
Fellaini
Pogba
Mkhi
Mata
Martial
Ibra
(Any more?)

If I'm right, that's 14, which would allow us to sign (net) three more and register them all this summer.

Rooney, Young, Smalling, Lingard, Jones, Carrick, Shaw, Wilson and Januzaj would all be homegrown. Not sure about Varela.

I don't *think* any of TFM, Rashford, Tuanzebe, Pereira x 2, RoShaun, CBJ or Riley would need to be registered for the PL next season. All would qualify as junior players still.

Don't worry guys, I'm not going anywhere

*sign (net) four more

I'd keep Jones, of the two... Been good, this season, and Jose seems to trust him. His injuries were low too, this season... to say that someone standing on his foot keeps him in the injury prone category is a bit daft.

comment by Ji Sung Park's Cousin - 2017 joy squids (U2958)
posted 2 hours, 16 minutes ago
I'd keep Jones, of the two... Been good, this season, and Jose seems to trust him. His injuries were low too, this season... to say that someone standing on his foot keeps him in the injury prone category is a bit daft.
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He's missed more than half of the bloody season again man.

His injury often seem to be impact injuries. He is ridiculously injury prone.

I'd be sorry to see them go. I believed, and still do, that Jones had real potential. And for a while Smalling was our best defender. But time moves on, if we have, can get better then so be it. Football teams should be constantly evolving.

They are both very good players. But not quite good enough for where we all want United to be.

They are not alone In that critique, either.

Would lose no sleep over Jones leaving to be honest.

Smalling we should keep. He is a decent defender and our player of the season last year.

Smalling as a backup won't work. He's got to see himself as captain material at most English clubs. If we can't play him, we should sell him. Jones is a real conundrum. With his injury record, we'd have to pay someone to take him. Really shameful how this has regressed.