sickening really, imagine having the mentality to not only attack someone with a knife but a mother and her child who's in a pram with her
Frightening to think how many cowards there are out there with murder on the mind, that their lives are so sad and pathetic they can't stand the thought of anyone else (normal people) getting on with theirs
So even Finland isn't insulated against some of the unfortunate but apparently inevitable consequences of uncontrolled migration in European.
This kind of thing is almost unprecedented in Finland. Terrorism I mean, not stabbings or the act of murder.
One day the leaders of the European Union and the German Chancellor in particular will have to admit their responsibilities with regards to current events. Thousands of people are literally walking into Europe without any border controls whatsoever. Last week hundreds simply arrived on a Spanish beach and walked into their new country.
The authorities do not know what all of these people believe. They do not even know their names. And yet they have asked us to pretend their can be no relationship between this mass movement of terrorist activity. They ask us to suspend our disbelief and play along with them. They have made everyone in Europe less safe and encouraged thousands of innocents to risk their lives on dangerous ocean crossings.
Is this definately extremist related? Seems crazy they'd attack Finland. What have the Finns done?!?
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comment by Barrytard (U19119)
posted 5 seconds ago
Is this definately extremist related? Seems crazy they'd attack Finland. What have the Finns done?!?
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Hasn't been confirmed either way yet. Rather than speculating I'd just wait for the official word.
comment by The Welsh Xavi (U15412)
posted 41 seconds ago
comment by Barrytard (U19119)
posted 5 seconds ago
Is this definately extremist related? Seems crazy they'd attack Finland. What have the Finns done?!?
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Hasn't been confirmed either way yet. Rather than speculating I'd just wait for the official word.
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Indeed- hence my question.
A betting man would probably get very good odds on it being extremist related, mind..
You will get brandished a racist for this but it is spot on, we need tighter controls
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tighter controls would do what? honestly serious question? not one single attack has been attributed to the Syrian refugee movement of people into Europe, pretty much every attack carried out has been by someone born and radicalized in Europe, most if not all the suspects are known to the police which must be sickening to the victims families
comment by The Welsh Xavi (U15412)
posted 37 seconds ago
comment by Barrytard (U19119)
posted 5 seconds ago
Is this definately extremist related? Seems crazy they'd attack Finland. What have the Finns done?!?
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Hasn't been confirmed either way yet. Rather than speculating I'd just wait for the official word.
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My comment can just as easily be applied to Spain. There is not exactly a shortage of subject matter.
Point is this, we have largely failed in relation to magaging home grown extremism. Thousands of European citizens hate their own respective countries and smaller number want to kill their fellow citizens.
In light of this, allowing existing extremists to simply walk in unopposed aned unchecked was an act of masochism. The worrying thing is do not believe for one second the likes of Merkel were not not repeatedly warned what would happen.
These people are just criminals. Their religion has nothing to do with it. It’s just a coincidence.
comment by United_kaz (U9943)
posted 1 minute ago
You will get brandished a racist for this but it is spot on, we need tighter controls
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tighter controls would do what? honestly serious question? not one single attack has been attributed to the Syrian refugee movement of people into Europe, pretty much every attack carried out has been by someone born and radicalized in Europe, most if not all the suspects are known to the police which must be sickening to the victims families
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The guys who did the Paris attacks came in and out of the country went backwards and forwards using the migrant routes to and from the Middle East.
Germany had arrested countless 'refugees' who have since been involved in terrorism. The list goes on and on.
comment by Taggs - I used to be funny (U1183)
posted 49 seconds ago
These people are just criminals. Their religion has nothing to do with it. It’s just a coincidence.
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If this was true then these events would simply not happen. Run of the mill criminals do not arbitrarily commit mass murder. Especially without the incentive of financial gain. Your comment shows the level of denial that still exists and say this with respect.
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In light of this, allowing existing extremists to simply walk in unopposed aned unchecked was an act of masochism. The worrying thing is do not believe for one second the likes of Merkel were not not repeatedly warned what would happen.
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You do realise that nobody just allows knowing existing extremists just walk in the country right?! A lot of these people that have committed these attacks have been homegrown, that's evident enough. The fact that the one in Manchester was informed to the security services five times by Muslims says it all.
We do need to tighten our borders, in fact if it was up to me, to stop people coming in completely but that wouldn't stop terrorism at all. I doubt it would even make a shred of difference.
It just makes me laugh that people genuinely believe that this is all done due to some religious ideology. ISIS have killed more muslims than foreigners.
comment by Taggs - I used to be funny (U1183)
posted 2 minutes ago
These people are just criminals. Their religion has nothing to do with it. It’s just a coincidence.
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Don't believe that. Their beliefs have been twisted to get them to do it. Natively the religeon shouldn't be blamed, but how it's been interpreted/twisted to brainwash them still means it's a factor. I'm not blaming it, more the puppet masters.
Religeon though-should be binned.
comment by The RC is back (U21185)
posted 36 seconds ago
comment by The Welsh Xavi (U15412)
posted 37 seconds ago
comment by Barrytard (U19119)
posted 5 seconds ago
Is this definately extremist related? Seems crazy they'd attack Finland. What have the Finns done?!?
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Hasn't been confirmed either way yet. Rather than speculating I'd just wait for the official word.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
My comment can just as easily be applied to Spain. There is not exactly a shortage of subject matter.
Point is this, we have largely failed in relation to magaging home grown extremism. Thousands of European citizens hate their own respective countries and smaller number want to kill their fellow citizens.
In light of this, allowing existing extremists to simply walk in unopposed aned unchecked was an act of masochism. The worrying thing is do not believe for one second the likes of Merkel were not not repeatedly warned what would happen.
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Except as United_Kaz said, none of the attackers were from Syria or countries where the mass influx of immigration is coming from. The three highest influx of citizens are from Syria, Iraq and Afghanistan. The three attacks this year have been:
-British born Libyan (Manchester)
- Pakistani born british citizen, Libyan and Moroccan (London)
- And so far the 4 arrested for Barcelona have been 1 Spanish national and 3 Moroccans.
comment by Darkphoenix (U11503)
posted 3 minutes ago
In light of this, allowing existing extremists to simply walk in unopposed aned unchecked was an act of masochism. The worrying thing is do not believe for one second the likes of Merkel were not not repeatedly warned what would happen.
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You do realise that nobody just allows knowing existing extremists just walk in the country right?! A lot of these people that have committed these attacks have been homegrown, that's evident enough. The fact that the one in Manchester was informed to the security services five times by Muslims says it all.
We do need to tighten our borders, in fact if it was up to me, to stop people coming in completely but that wouldn't stop terrorism at all. I doubt it would even make a shred of difference.
It just makes me laugh that people genuinely believe that this is all done due to some religious ideology. ISIS have killed more muslims than foreigners.
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You are simply incorrect factually. Thousands have entered Europe without any checks whatsoever.
As I said, last weeks hundreds were videoed simply found walking into Spain after landing on a beach.
That is a continent without border controls.
You are asking me to believe than none will be extremists or terrorists.
As well say, the authorities do not even know their names or places or places of origin.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/jan/29/isis-finds-success-infiltrating-terrorists-into-re/
Here you go. "Hit squads" entering Germany. Repeated knife and axe attacks by "refugees".
The Paris attacks which killed 130 http://www.france24.com/en/20151119-paris-attackers-slip-refugee-migrant-crisis-terrorism
And still we have people living in a total state of denial.
RC with border controls in place couldn't these people still land on a beach anyway
comment by kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
posted 25 seconds ago
RC with border controls in place couldn't these people still land on a beach anyway
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No. See Australia as a case and point.
Like I do agree with you that there should be more control but how can what you deserve robe be stopped without building a wall
comment by The RC is back (U21185)
posted 14 seconds ago
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/jan/29/isis-finds-success-infiltrating-terrorists-into-re/
Here you go. "Hit squads" entering Germany. Repeated knife and axe attacks by "refugees".
The Paris attacks which killed 130 http://www.france24.com/en/20151119-paris-attackers-slip-refugee-migrant-crisis-terrorism
And still we have people living in a total state of denial.
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So what exactly is your solution to this? It's incredibly easy to say buzz words like tighter immigration control but what are you proposing?
You said in another comment people were landing on beaches, so how would we stop that? Have thousands of patrol boats 24/7 all over coastal Europe? Wall off beaches? Wall off Europe as a whole?
Describe I meant to say.
What do the do in Australia?
On the case of Islamic fundamentalism
If North Korea were to launch an attack, would you expect/hope/want America to counter attack knowing that some innocent people might suffer because of it? Or try and enforce more "restrictions"
The point behind this is, we simply need to realise that Islam is the problem here, regardless of whether it's interpretates wrongly or rightly
Everybody knows what needs to be done, it's just a case that nobody will do it
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posted on 18/8/17
sickening really, imagine having the mentality to not only attack someone with a knife but a mother and her child who's in a pram with her
posted on 18/8/17
Frightening to think how many cowards there are out there with murder on the mind, that their lives are so sad and pathetic they can't stand the thought of anyone else (normal people) getting on with theirs
posted on 18/8/17
So even Finland isn't insulated against some of the unfortunate but apparently inevitable consequences of uncontrolled migration in European.
This kind of thing is almost unprecedented in Finland. Terrorism I mean, not stabbings or the act of murder.
One day the leaders of the European Union and the German Chancellor in particular will have to admit their responsibilities with regards to current events. Thousands of people are literally walking into Europe without any border controls whatsoever. Last week hundreds simply arrived on a Spanish beach and walked into their new country.
The authorities do not know what all of these people believe. They do not even know their names. And yet they have asked us to pretend their can be no relationship between this mass movement of terrorist activity. They ask us to suspend our disbelief and play along with them. They have made everyone in Europe less safe and encouraged thousands of innocents to risk their lives on dangerous ocean crossings.
posted on 18/8/17
Is this definately extremist related? Seems crazy they'd attack Finland. What have the Finns done?!?
posted on 18/8/17
Comment deleted by Site Moderator
posted on 18/8/17
comment by Barrytard (U19119)
posted 5 seconds ago
Is this definately extremist related? Seems crazy they'd attack Finland. What have the Finns done?!?
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Hasn't been confirmed either way yet. Rather than speculating I'd just wait for the official word.
posted on 18/8/17
comment by The Welsh Xavi (U15412)
posted 41 seconds ago
comment by Barrytard (U19119)
posted 5 seconds ago
Is this definately extremist related? Seems crazy they'd attack Finland. What have the Finns done?!?
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Hasn't been confirmed either way yet. Rather than speculating I'd just wait for the official word.
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Indeed- hence my question.
A betting man would probably get very good odds on it being extremist related, mind..
posted on 18/8/17
You will get brandished a racist for this but it is spot on, we need tighter controls
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tighter controls would do what? honestly serious question? not one single attack has been attributed to the Syrian refugee movement of people into Europe, pretty much every attack carried out has been by someone born and radicalized in Europe, most if not all the suspects are known to the police which must be sickening to the victims families
posted on 18/8/17
comment by The Welsh Xavi (U15412)
posted 37 seconds ago
comment by Barrytard (U19119)
posted 5 seconds ago
Is this definately extremist related? Seems crazy they'd attack Finland. What have the Finns done?!?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Hasn't been confirmed either way yet. Rather than speculating I'd just wait for the official word.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
My comment can just as easily be applied to Spain. There is not exactly a shortage of subject matter.
Point is this, we have largely failed in relation to magaging home grown extremism. Thousands of European citizens hate their own respective countries and smaller number want to kill their fellow citizens.
In light of this, allowing existing extremists to simply walk in unopposed aned unchecked was an act of masochism. The worrying thing is do not believe for one second the likes of Merkel were not not repeatedly warned what would happen.
posted on 18/8/17
These people are just criminals. Their religion has nothing to do with it. It’s just a coincidence.
posted on 18/8/17
comment by United_kaz (U9943)
posted 1 minute ago
You will get brandished a racist for this but it is spot on, we need tighter controls
----------
tighter controls would do what? honestly serious question? not one single attack has been attributed to the Syrian refugee movement of people into Europe, pretty much every attack carried out has been by someone born and radicalized in Europe, most if not all the suspects are known to the police which must be sickening to the victims families
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The guys who did the Paris attacks came in and out of the country went backwards and forwards using the migrant routes to and from the Middle East.
Germany had arrested countless 'refugees' who have since been involved in terrorism. The list goes on and on.
posted on 18/8/17
comment by Taggs - I used to be funny (U1183)
posted 49 seconds ago
These people are just criminals. Their religion has nothing to do with it. It’s just a coincidence.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
If this was true then these events would simply not happen. Run of the mill criminals do not arbitrarily commit mass murder. Especially without the incentive of financial gain. Your comment shows the level of denial that still exists and say this with respect.
posted on 18/8/17
I think that was sarcasm
posted on 18/8/17
Comment deleted by Site Moderator
posted on 18/8/17
In light of this, allowing existing extremists to simply walk in unopposed aned unchecked was an act of masochism. The worrying thing is do not believe for one second the likes of Merkel were not not repeatedly warned what would happen.
-------
You do realise that nobody just allows knowing existing extremists just walk in the country right?! A lot of these people that have committed these attacks have been homegrown, that's evident enough. The fact that the one in Manchester was informed to the security services five times by Muslims says it all.
We do need to tighten our borders, in fact if it was up to me, to stop people coming in completely but that wouldn't stop terrorism at all. I doubt it would even make a shred of difference.
It just makes me laugh that people genuinely believe that this is all done due to some religious ideology. ISIS have killed more muslims than foreigners.
posted on 18/8/17
comment by Taggs - I used to be funny (U1183)
posted 2 minutes ago
These people are just criminals. Their religion has nothing to do with it. It’s just a coincidence.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Don't believe that. Their beliefs have been twisted to get them to do it. Natively the religeon shouldn't be blamed, but how it's been interpreted/twisted to brainwash them still means it's a factor. I'm not blaming it, more the puppet masters.
Religeon though-should be binned.
posted on 18/8/17
comment by The RC is back (U21185)
posted 36 seconds ago
comment by The Welsh Xavi (U15412)
posted 37 seconds ago
comment by Barrytard (U19119)
posted 5 seconds ago
Is this definately extremist related? Seems crazy they'd attack Finland. What have the Finns done?!?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Hasn't been confirmed either way yet. Rather than speculating I'd just wait for the official word.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
My comment can just as easily be applied to Spain. There is not exactly a shortage of subject matter.
Point is this, we have largely failed in relation to magaging home grown extremism. Thousands of European citizens hate their own respective countries and smaller number want to kill their fellow citizens.
In light of this, allowing existing extremists to simply walk in unopposed aned unchecked was an act of masochism. The worrying thing is do not believe for one second the likes of Merkel were not not repeatedly warned what would happen.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Except as United_Kaz said, none of the attackers were from Syria or countries where the mass influx of immigration is coming from. The three highest influx of citizens are from Syria, Iraq and Afghanistan. The three attacks this year have been:
-British born Libyan (Manchester)
- Pakistani born british citizen, Libyan and Moroccan (London)
- And so far the 4 arrested for Barcelona have been 1 Spanish national and 3 Moroccans.
posted on 18/8/17
comment by Darkphoenix (U11503)
posted 3 minutes ago
In light of this, allowing existing extremists to simply walk in unopposed aned unchecked was an act of masochism. The worrying thing is do not believe for one second the likes of Merkel were not not repeatedly warned what would happen.
-------
You do realise that nobody just allows knowing existing extremists just walk in the country right?! A lot of these people that have committed these attacks have been homegrown, that's evident enough. The fact that the one in Manchester was informed to the security services five times by Muslims says it all.
We do need to tighten our borders, in fact if it was up to me, to stop people coming in completely but that wouldn't stop terrorism at all. I doubt it would even make a shred of difference.
It just makes me laugh that people genuinely believe that this is all done due to some religious ideology. ISIS have killed more muslims than foreigners.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You are simply incorrect factually. Thousands have entered Europe without any checks whatsoever.
As I said, last weeks hundreds were videoed simply found walking into Spain after landing on a beach.
That is a continent without border controls.
You are asking me to believe than none will be extremists or terrorists.
As well say, the authorities do not even know their names or places or places of origin.
posted on 18/8/17
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/jan/29/isis-finds-success-infiltrating-terrorists-into-re/
Here you go. "Hit squads" entering Germany. Repeated knife and axe attacks by "refugees".
The Paris attacks which killed 130 http://www.france24.com/en/20151119-paris-attackers-slip-refugee-migrant-crisis-terrorism
And still we have people living in a total state of denial.
posted on 18/8/17
RC with border controls in place couldn't these people still land on a beach anyway
posted on 18/8/17
comment by kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
posted 25 seconds ago
RC with border controls in place couldn't these people still land on a beach anyway
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No. See Australia as a case and point.
posted on 18/8/17
Like I do agree with you that there should be more control but how can what you deserve robe be stopped without building a wall
posted on 18/8/17
comment by The RC is back (U21185)
posted 14 seconds ago
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/jan/29/isis-finds-success-infiltrating-terrorists-into-re/
Here you go. "Hit squads" entering Germany. Repeated knife and axe attacks by "refugees".
The Paris attacks which killed 130 http://www.france24.com/en/20151119-paris-attackers-slip-refugee-migrant-crisis-terrorism
And still we have people living in a total state of denial.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So what exactly is your solution to this? It's incredibly easy to say buzz words like tighter immigration control but what are you proposing?
You said in another comment people were landing on beaches, so how would we stop that? Have thousands of patrol boats 24/7 all over coastal Europe? Wall off beaches? Wall off Europe as a whole?
posted on 18/8/17
Describe I meant to say.
What do the do in Australia?
posted on 18/8/17
On the case of Islamic fundamentalism
If North Korea were to launch an attack, would you expect/hope/want America to counter attack knowing that some innocent people might suffer because of it? Or try and enforce more "restrictions"
The point behind this is, we simply need to realise that Islam is the problem here, regardless of whether it's interpretates wrongly or rightly
Everybody knows what needs to be done, it's just a case that nobody will do it
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