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comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
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The tribalism comments were about voters not MPs.
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So tribalism is fine for our politicians, but not for the rest of us..

A bit like decent wages
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Sat Nav has double standards. That much should be obvious to everyone.
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Explain exactly how I have double standards?
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You've just said it's OK for MPs to be tribal but not voters.
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Hahaha

Did I?
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When I said that the MP himself was guilty of tribalism after you said people should be tribal, you replied with the top comment in this thread.

So yes, you have implied that it is OK for MPs and not voters.

comment by Insert random username (U10647)
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comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
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comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
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The tribalism comments were about voters not MPs.
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So tribalism is fine for our politicians, but not for the rest of us..

A bit like decent wages
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Oh hi there Cathy Newman - how are you?
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Ah, a Tory insult,

Acceptable, due to the language used of course
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You mean polite language? Oh dear, take me down now.
15 years minimum
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You say polite language, I say veiled

And insult is an insult. Wether it's using flower language or a simple term like scuuum.
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I said Cathy Newman because you, she famously did, put words in my mouth which were a misrepresentation of my thoughts or beliefs.

I didn’t say it was fine for MPs to be tribal. I said we were talking about voters previously.

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comment by Insert random username (U10647)
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comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
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comment by Insert random username (U10647)
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comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 1 minute ago
The tribalism comments were about voters not MPs.
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So tribalism is fine for our politicians, but not for the rest of us..

A bit like decent wages
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Oh hi there Cathy Newman - how are you?
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Ah, a Tory insult,

Acceptable, due to the language used of course
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You mean polite language? Oh dear, take me down now.
15 years minimum
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You say polite language, I say veiled

And insult is an insult. Wether it's using flower language or a simple term like scuuum.
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I said Cathy Newman because you, she famously did, put words in my mouth which were a misrepresentation of my thoughts or beliefs.

I didn’t say it was fine for MPs to be tribal. I said we were talking about voters previously.
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She put words in your mouth?

Sound painful, I've noticed right wingers had no trouble with Kuenssburg editing video of her interview with Corbyn to try and make him incoherent.

Probably tribalism

I said it was laughable to complain about people being tribal on this, when the MP was being tribal himself.

You have at best tried to deflect from that, at worst displayed double standards.

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comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
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comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 1 minute ago
The tribalism comments were about voters not MPs.
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So tribalism is fine for our politicians, but not for the rest of us..

A bit like decent wages
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Sat Nav has double standards. That much should be obvious to everyone.
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Explain exactly how I have double standards?
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You've just said it's OK for MPs to be tribal but not voters.
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Hahaha

Did I?
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When I said that the MP himself was guilty of tribalism after you said people should be tribal, you replied with the top comment in this thread.

So yes, you have implied that it is OK for MPs and not voters.
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I haven’t implied anything. Your ideology has led you to infer.

And you will choose to believe your inference rather than my words about what I have said and any implied meaning or denial of any meaning. That is how strong your ideology is.

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comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
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comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
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comment by Insert random username (U10647)
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comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
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The tribalism comments were about voters not MPs.
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So tribalism is fine for our politicians, but not for the rest of us..

A bit like decent wages
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Sat Nav has double standards. That much should be obvious to everyone.
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Explain exactly how I have double standards?
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You've just said it's OK for MPs to be tribal but not voters.
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Hahaha

Did I?
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When I said that the MP himself was guilty of tribalism after you said people should be tribal, you replied with the top comment in this thread.

So yes, you have implied that it is OK for MPs and not voters.
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I haven’t implied anything. Your ideology has led you to infer.

And you will choose to believe your inference rather than my words about what I have said and any implied meaning or denial of any meaning. That is how strong your ideology is.
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Of course. Sat Nav never accepts responsibility for his own words or for being incorrect.

Cathy Newman misrepresented Sat Nav?

Is Sat Nav Jordan Peterson 🤔

comment by Insert random username (U10647)
posted 2 minutes ago
Insulting males by referring to them as females.

Is that misogyny? Might need Raab to explain the term to me.
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Has nothing to do with gender. It was the poor reporting gotcha type questions that you employed l, as she did.

I don’t know what gender she is anyway. You shouldn’t assume someone’s gender mate, it’s 2021 you transphobic individual you

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comment by Insert random username (U10647)
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Insulting males by referring to them as females.

Is that misogyny? Might need Raab to explain the term to me.
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Has nothing to do with gender. It was the poor reporting gotcha type questions that you employed l, as she did.

I don’t know what gender she is anyway. You shouldn’t assume someone’s gender mate, it’s 2021 you transphobic individual you
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You specifically asked if she had a sister as an insult aimed at Tam


But nothing to do with gender right.

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comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
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comment by Insert random username (U10647)
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comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 1 minute ago
The tribalism comments were about voters not MPs.
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So tribalism is fine for our politicians, but not for the rest of us..

A bit like decent wages
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Sat Nav has double standards. That much should be obvious to everyone.
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Explain exactly how I have double standards?
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You've just said it's OK for MPs to be tribal but not voters.
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Hahaha

Did I?
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When I said that the MP himself was guilty of tribalism after you said people should be tribal, you replied with the top comment in this thread.

So yes, you have implied that it is OK for MPs and not voters.
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I haven’t implied anything. Your ideology has led you to infer.

And you will choose to believe your inference rather than my words about what I have said and any implied meaning or denial of any meaning. That is how strong your ideology is.
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Of course. Sat Nav never accepts responsibility for his own words or for being incorrect.
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No, of course not. I’m just like Kloppy.

In this instance I’m not incorrect. You & Insert are.

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comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
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comment by Insert random username (U10647)
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Insulting males by referring to them as females.

Is that misogyny? Might need Raab to explain the term to me.
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Has nothing to do with gender. It was the poor reporting gotcha type questions that you employed l, as she did.

I don’t know what gender she is anyway. You shouldn’t assume someone’s gender mate, it’s 2021 you transphobic individual you
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You specifically asked if she had a sister as an insult aimed at Tam


But nothing to do with gender right.
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Lol you know I’m joking about the gender side of things?

Maybe you’re a s3xist pig if you think calling someone a female is an insult

🤔

comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
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Maybe you’re a s3xist pig if you think calling someone a female is an insult

🤔
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Only having some tickles with you now

comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 24 minutes ago
If you look at Peter Bottomley's voting record (I have as he was my MP for 5 years), he always votes with the Tory party line or abstains. He never votes against his party.
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Seems fairly tribal

I have no idea what's going on

comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted 11 seconds ago
I have no idea what's going on
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It’s ok. Nobody does

comment by Samus (Isle of) Arran (U22669)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 24 minutes ago
If you look at Peter Bottomley's voting record (I have as he was my MP for 5 years), he always votes with the Tory party line or abstains. He never votes against his party.
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Seems fairly tribal
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But that's OK according to Sat Nav.

comment by The Welsh Xavi (U15412)
posted 57 minutes ago
I understand the point he's making in relation to brand new MPs, but it's not exactly the smartest thing to say, especially the timing giving UC uplift just ended.

I have no doubt it can be a challenge for a new MP, but I struggle to have much sympathy for someone on £82,000 a year when very large swathes of the population aren't even on half of that.
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Just to be clear and to avoid conflation;

What you think is a challenge for a new MP is the nature of the role? The having to deal with constituents, sit long hours in the HoC and generally be an active politician? As opposed to thinking living on a salary of £82k with an expense policy that would make even the most fun of fund managers balk is challenging?

This is one of those areas where I have some quite entertaining first hand knowledge but trying to decide whether I share as don’t want the politician identified as they’re very much still in the public eye and are a pal of mine.

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comment by Samus (Isle of) Arran (U22669)
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comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
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If you look at Peter Bottomley's voting record (I have as he was my MP for 5 years), he always votes with the Tory party line or abstains. He never votes against his party.
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Seems fairly tribal
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But that's OK according to Sat Nav.
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comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
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comment by Samus (Isle of) Arran (U22669)
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comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 24 minutes ago
If you look at Peter Bottomley's voting record (I have as he was my MP for 5 years), he always votes with the Tory party line or abstains. He never votes against his party.
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Seems fairly tribal
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But that's OK according to Sat Nav.
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Moron

Notice that Sat Nav completely ignored the point about Peter Bottomley abstaining from the vote to reduce universal credit by £20 this month, so therefore being hypocritical by now saying its the wrong thing to do.

He spent so long defending him, that it became 'deflect, deflect, deflect'.

comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
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comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
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comment by Samus (Isle of) Arran (U22669)
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comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 24 minutes ago
If you look at Peter Bottomley's voting record (I have as he was my MP for 5 years), he always votes with the Tory party line or abstains. He never votes against his party.
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Seems fairly tribal
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But that's OK according to Sat Nav.
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Moron
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Ah, one of those acceptable Tory insults.

comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted less than a minute ago
Notice that Sat Nav completely ignored the point about Peter Bottomley abstaining from the vote to reduce universal credit by £20 this month, so therefore being hypocritical by now saying its the wrong thing to do.

He spent so long defending him, that it became 'deflect, deflect, deflect'.
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Sounds a bit tribal

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posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
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Maybe you’re a s3xist pig if you think calling someone a female is an insult

🤔
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Only having some tickles with you now
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Nah nah nah nah nah.

Double down with the rhetoric, that’s the Tory way 😜

comment by Samus (Isle of) Arran (U22669)
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comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
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Notice that Sat Nav completely ignored the point about Peter Bottomley abstaining from the vote to reduce universal credit by £20 this month, so therefore being hypocritical by now saying its the wrong thing to do.

He spent so long defending him, that it became 'deflect, deflect, deflect'.
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Sounds a bit tribal
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This is where we find out that Sat Nav isn't a voter, so it's OK.