BREAKING:
At least 6 martyrs and over 70 injured after Israeli forces bombed a falafel stand & tents in the courtyard of Al-Awda Hospital in Nuseirat refugee camp, central Gaza.
https://x.com/suppressednws/status/1940491842182959439?s=46&t=bPTrpdgNggCdz9igvhmVyw
Hamas are hiding in falafel stands now
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Amount of borrowing
Tax levels.
Debt
Three simple ones right away without even thinking about it.
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Oh ok, so if I hand you a failing business you'd be able to turn it around from day one would you?
You wouldn't approach your lenders to negotiate terms for further borrowing and repayments, try to cut costs, and stimulate growth?
I reiterate I don't like this lot and they aren't doing a good job of turning things around but they didn't create this situation.
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 35 minutes ago
comment by clapfreesince2003 (U22207)
posted 28 minutes ago
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 46 minutes ago
comment by clapfreesince2003 (U22207)
posted 32 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Waiting for Franko - He don't look at no ... (U23088)
posted 10 minutes ago
The Tories are slimy fakers though. Everything is party politics.
They were going to vote against the original bill every though (from what I understand of it) that would be pretty much their own policy.
That Badenoch is like having an 18 year old running the party. I thought she might be a good choice but she hasn't got a fackin clue about anything so far as I can tell, and whats worse can't be rrrrsd to find out.
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It’s the oppositions job to oppose the sitting government. This was certainly the mantra on here for some considerable time.
And it’s the governments job to deliver what they promised, regardless of what went on previously. They had 14 years in opposition and claimed everything was fully funded and there would be dramatic change.
They’ve failed in that but this is the result of them being voted in simply because they weren’t the Conservatives.
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I was listening to the radio today, and the presenters were saying Starmer and Raynor can't keep blaming the Tories for their f-ups.
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Juvenile to ignore the catastraf*ck they inherited and a random on the radio is just as immature.
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No one is saying it should be ignored, but constantly bringing up the Tories mistakes to deflect from your feck up's is becoming tiresome. It happens at every single PM Questions. The presenter was Stig Abell who is far from immature.
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My thoughts exactly.
It's always words to the effect of how dare you ask me that after your disastrous 14 years in charge.
Yet the Tories are the opposition and are only doing what they are supposed to. How long they were in government before being voted out is irrelevant.
One of Starmers many faults is he's extremely thin skinned and can't handle being criticised therefore PMQ's is particularly hard for him which is probably why he'll do anything to avoid it.
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You and the Tories have only just stopped talking about 2008.
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posted 35 minutes ago
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posted 46 minutes ago
comment by clapfreesince2003 (U22207)
posted 32 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Waiting for Franko - He don't look at no ... (U23088)
posted 10 minutes ago
The Tories are slimy fakers though. Everything is party politics.
They were going to vote against the original bill every though (from what I understand of it) that would be pretty much their own policy.
That Badenoch is like having an 18 year old running the party. I thought she might be a good choice but she hasn't got a fackin clue about anything so far as I can tell, and whats worse can't be rrrrsd to find out.
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It’s the oppositions job to oppose the sitting government. This was certainly the mantra on here for some considerable time.
And it’s the governments job to deliver what they promised, regardless of what went on previously. They had 14 years in opposition and claimed everything was fully funded and there would be dramatic change.
They’ve failed in that but this is the result of them being voted in simply because they weren’t the Conservatives.
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I was listening to the radio today, and the presenters were saying Starmer and Raynor can't keep blaming the Tories for their f-ups.
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Juvenile to ignore the catastraf*ck they inherited and a random on the radio is just as immature.
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No one is saying it should be ignored, but constantly bringing up the Tories mistakes to deflect from your feck up's is becoming tiresome. It happens at every single PM Questions. The presenter was Stig Abell who is far from immature.
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My thoughts exactly.
It's always words to the effect of how dare you ask me that after your disastrous 14 years in charge.
Yet the Tories are the opposition and are only doing what they are supposed to. How long they were in government before being voted out is irrelevant.
One of Starmers many faults is he's extremely thin skinned and can't handle being criticised therefore PMQ's is particularly hard for him which is probably why he'll do anything to avoid it.
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You and the Tories have only just stopped talking about 2008.
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Haha, and the Liam Byrne note.
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comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 35 minutes ago
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posted 28 minutes ago
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posted 46 minutes ago
comment by clapfreesince2003 (U22207)
posted 32 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Waiting for Franko - He don't look at no ... (U23088)
posted 10 minutes ago
The Tories are slimy fakers though. Everything is party politics.
They were going to vote against the original bill every though (from what I understand of it) that would be pretty much their own policy.
That Badenoch is like having an 18 year old running the party. I thought she might be a good choice but she hasn't got a fackin clue about anything so far as I can tell, and whats worse can't be rrrrsd to find out.
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It’s the oppositions job to oppose the sitting government. This was certainly the mantra on here for some considerable time.
And it’s the governments job to deliver what they promised, regardless of what went on previously. They had 14 years in opposition and claimed everything was fully funded and there would be dramatic change.
They’ve failed in that but this is the result of them being voted in simply because they weren’t the Conservatives.
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I was listening to the radio today, and the presenters were saying Starmer and Raynor can't keep blaming the Tories for their f-ups.
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Juvenile to ignore the catastraf*ck they inherited and a random on the radio is just as immature.
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No one is saying it should be ignored, but constantly bringing up the Tories mistakes to deflect from your feck up's is becoming tiresome. It happens at every single PM Questions. The presenter was Stig Abell who is far from immature.
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My thoughts exactly.
It's always words to the effect of how dare you ask me that after your disastrous 14 years in charge.
Yet the Tories are the opposition and are only doing what they are supposed to. How long they were in government before being voted out is irrelevant.
One of Starmers many faults is he's extremely thin skinned and can't handle being criticised therefore PMQ's is particularly hard for him which is probably why he'll do anything to avoid it.
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You and the Tories have only just stopped talking about 2008.
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This former Tory MP has just joined Reform, why am I shocked
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-40555639
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Sorry, but as employers surely it’s the employees whose taxes on this earned salary that pays for their healthcare and the like. But then you know I was talking about these “rich” people themselves of course.
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I think your reasoning is from a bygone era of old school conservatism when we had a free market economy. Employer's risk has been underwritten by the state for many years now. Many of them rewarded shareholders instead of planning for headwinds and wouldn't have survived Covid without state intervention.
These businesses would have been weeded out long ago in a free market economy, but instead they have been getting hundreds of billions of free state insurance.
comment by Michael Scofield (U11781)
posted 2 minutes ago
This former Tory MP has just joined Reform, why am I shocked
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-40555639
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Ffs I thought this was from today and you were just being funny until I saw the date.
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posted 31 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
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Amount of borrowing
Tax levels.
Debt
Three simple ones right away without even thinking about it.
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Oh ok, so if I hand you a failing business you'd be able to turn it around from day one would you?
You wouldn't approach your lenders to negotiate terms for further borrowing and repayments, try to cut costs, and stimulate growth?
I reiterate I don't like this lot and they aren't doing a good job of turning things around but they didn't create this situation.
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No they didn’t
But they’ve made it far worse
comment by Darren The King Fletcher (U10026)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by Michael Scofield (U11781)
posted 2 minutes ago
This former Tory MP has just joined Reform, why am I shocked
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-40555639
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Ffs I thought this was from today and you were just being funny until I saw the date.
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she’s gonna lead the party’s formulation of its social care policy
She’s gonna tell care homes to kill off the brown pensioners
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Kier.
Stop fackin about trying to squeeze disabled people to pay for the mess the Tories have caused over 15 years.
Just ....tax...the...rich....who....can....afford ...to pay.
Or we will arrange for Angela to do it.
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You might find that most of them have decked off. More will follow.
Which “rich” do you want taxing more?
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Papers owned by the super rich will tell you there's an exodus but independent studies will show that not to be true
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Rich peole who either earn or make loads of money and who have done espcecially over tha last 15 years should pay more to fix Britain. If the rich want Britain to thrive here then its a small price for them to pay to live here. They can easily afford it. Either through personal incomes say over £100k (although seriously rich people wont declare such incomes), and multiple property ownership, or capital gains on business and investment. Then there is the undisclosed revenue streams they hide. Most rich people tick more than one or all of these. Who else do you think should pay? Disabled people on benefits?. Mothers on maternity pay? Poor and unemployed people who have little money? Do you even want or care that the UK recovers or shall we throw it to the dogs and become like a 2nd World country eventually?
And as the number of millionaires living in the UK continues to grow, the precentage of millionaires leaving is a very small percentage of the total millionaire population in the UK. The narrative that there is a current exodus of millionaires from the UK in the Tory press is of course rubbish.
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Blimey. So many unfounded claims here there is nowhere to begin.
They are just your view. That’s all
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LOL Well.... yes, thats what this thread is all about. Its politics you plank. So yes, its what I think. Unlike what the Daily Mail wants people like you to think.
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Oh dear
So you now recognise this is all about opinions (you plank), but they’re all ok as long as they match yours in which case you simply refute them as being led by certain media outlets?
You do understand that works both ways right?
Perhaps not
I have no love for "the rich" but Starmer has already revealed what he would do ahead of the election, when asked to define who weren't working people he said people with savings.
Hence the ISA slashing that's coming up. If you saved any money that's going to be gobbled up to pay for asset rich pensioners, migrant hotels and a ballooning welfare bill.
Oh and don't think working people will scape the squeeze. He will do his damndest not to raise income, VAT or NI but either the Treasury will browbeat him into it or he will have to do tax rises by stealth: more threshold freezes, more NI raises for employers, fuel duty raised again... the works.
The super rich will just leave, they already are.
The working man isn’t affected by significantly higher council tax increases or ENIC.
Apparently
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Labour's ideological starting point is your success and earnings are simply at the behest of the state and social conditions and thus not earned. So they have no issue just squeezing you in the name of equality.
And additionally, in the name of the pensioners lobby as they actually vote, and the human rights industrial complex.
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I have no love for "the rich" but Starmer has already revealed what he would do ahead of the election, when asked to define who weren't working people he said people with savings.
Hence the ISA slashing that's coming up. If you saved any money that's going to be gobbled up to pay for asset rich pensioners, migrant hotels and a ballooning welfare bill.
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Slashing ISA's is just another supporting measure for the wealthy because the money will then go into assets, shares, property etc.
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comment by NPE - Maresca's Minions (U22712)
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I have no love for "the rich" but Starmer has already revealed what he would do ahead of the election, when asked to define who weren't working people he said people with savings.
Hence the ISA slashing that's coming up. If you saved any money that's going to be gobbled up to pay for asset rich pensioners, migrant hotels and a ballooning welfare bill.
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Slashing ISA's is just another supporting measure for the wealthy because the money will then go into assets, shares, property etc.
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I have no idea who you're referring to most people who have 1 or 2 small cash ISAa aren't super rich. I have one, if it gets removed I will have to put it into savings where it'll be taxed. I haven't got assets to pour wealth into, I am a renter in London. It's just a little bit I saved from being under effective house arrest in the pandemic when we couldn't leave our homes.
You think I am risking a stocks and shares ISA or a Brit ISA lol with the state of out stock exchange?
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posted 4 minutes ago
I have no love for "the rich" but Starmer has already revealed what he would do ahead of the election, when asked to define who weren't working people he said people with savings.
Hence the ISA slashing that's coming up. If you saved any money that's going to be gobbled up to pay for asset rich pensioners, migrant hotels and a ballooning welfare bill.
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Slashing ISA's is just another supporting measure for the wealthy because the money will then go into assets, shares, property etc.
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Eh?
ISA’s are maxed out at £20k per annum and depending on what ISA you have, you can easily lose money as well. Most who can throw something into an ISS see is at as a savings plan to help them in retirement and therefore have a cash ISA.
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I have no idea who you're referring to most people who have 1 or 2 small cash ISAa aren't super rich. I have one, if it gets removed I will have to put it into savings where it'll be taxed. I haven't got assets to pour wealth into, I am a renter in London. It's just a little bit I saved from being under effective house arrest in the pandemic when we couldn't leave our homes.
You think I am risking a stocks and shares ISA or a Brit ISA lol with the state of out stock exchange?
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People who have one or two small cash ISA's aren't going to get taxed much passed their tax free allowance are they. It doesn't affect you that much does it.
People who are easily putting 20k into one easily are going to put the money into shares or pay off their mortgage.
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Eh?
ISA’s are maxed out at £20k per annum and depending on what ISA you have, you can easily lose money as well. Most who can throw something into an ISS see is at as a savings plan to help them in retirement and therefore have a cash ISA.
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Ok, so where do I put my spare 20k each year now then?
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I have no idea who you're referring to most people who have 1 or 2 small cash ISAa aren't super rich. I have one, if it gets removed I will have to put it into savings where it'll be taxed. I haven't got assets to pour wealth into, I am a renter in London. It's just a little bit I saved from being under effective house arrest in the pandemic when we couldn't leave our homes.
You think I am risking a stocks and shares ISA or a Brit ISA lol with the state of out stock exchange?
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People who have one or two small cash ISA's aren't going to get taxed much passed their tax free allowance are they. It doesn't affect you that much does it.
People who are easily putting 20k into one easily are going to put the money into shares or pay off their mortgage.
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They’ll pay down their mortgage if they have one and have any sense.
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I have no idea who you're referring to most people who have 1 or 2 small cash ISAa aren't super rich. I have one, if it gets removed I will have to put it into savings where it'll be taxed. I haven't got assets to pour wealth into, I am a renter in London. It's just a little bit I saved from being under effective house arrest in the pandemic when we couldn't leave our homes.
You think I am risking a stocks and shares ISA or a Brit ISA lol with the state of out stock exchange?
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People who have one or two small cash ISA's aren't going to get taxed much passed their tax free allowance are they. It doesn't affect you that much does it.
People who are easily putting 20k into one easily are going to put the money into shares or pay off their mortgage.
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They’ll pay down their mortgage if they have one and have any sense.
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Quite a lot of people don't have a mortgage.
See my question above.
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Eh?
ISA’s are maxed out at £20k per annum and depending on what ISA you have, you can easily lose money as well. Most who can throw something into an ISS see is at as a savings plan to help them in retirement and therefore have a cash ISA.
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Ok, so where do I put my spare 20k each year now then?
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If you have a spare £20k I’m going to hazard a guess that you already know where it’s going.
Gambling on a stock exchange is just that. Gambling
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posted on 2/7/25
BREAKING:
At least 6 martyrs and over 70 injured after Israeli forces bombed a falafel stand & tents in the courtyard of Al-Awda Hospital in Nuseirat refugee camp, central Gaza.
https://x.com/suppressednws/status/1940491842182959439?s=46&t=bPTrpdgNggCdz9igvhmVyw
Hamas are hiding in falafel stands now
posted on 2/7/25
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
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Amount of borrowing
Tax levels.
Debt
Three simple ones right away without even thinking about it.
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Oh ok, so if I hand you a failing business you'd be able to turn it around from day one would you?
You wouldn't approach your lenders to negotiate terms for further borrowing and repayments, try to cut costs, and stimulate growth?
I reiterate I don't like this lot and they aren't doing a good job of turning things around but they didn't create this situation.
posted on 2/7/25
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 35 minutes ago
comment by clapfreesince2003 (U22207)
posted 28 minutes ago
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 46 minutes ago
comment by clapfreesince2003 (U22207)
posted 32 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Waiting for Franko - He don't look at no ... (U23088)
posted 10 minutes ago
The Tories are slimy fakers though. Everything is party politics.
They were going to vote against the original bill every though (from what I understand of it) that would be pretty much their own policy.
That Badenoch is like having an 18 year old running the party. I thought she might be a good choice but she hasn't got a fackin clue about anything so far as I can tell, and whats worse can't be rrrrsd to find out.
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It’s the oppositions job to oppose the sitting government. This was certainly the mantra on here for some considerable time.
And it’s the governments job to deliver what they promised, regardless of what went on previously. They had 14 years in opposition and claimed everything was fully funded and there would be dramatic change.
They’ve failed in that but this is the result of them being voted in simply because they weren’t the Conservatives.
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I was listening to the radio today, and the presenters were saying Starmer and Raynor can't keep blaming the Tories for their f-ups.
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Juvenile to ignore the catastraf*ck they inherited and a random on the radio is just as immature.
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No one is saying it should be ignored, but constantly bringing up the Tories mistakes to deflect from your feck up's is becoming tiresome. It happens at every single PM Questions. The presenter was Stig Abell who is far from immature.
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My thoughts exactly.
It's always words to the effect of how dare you ask me that after your disastrous 14 years in charge.
Yet the Tories are the opposition and are only doing what they are supposed to. How long they were in government before being voted out is irrelevant.
One of Starmers many faults is he's extremely thin skinned and can't handle being criticised therefore PMQ's is particularly hard for him which is probably why he'll do anything to avoid it.
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You and the Tories have only just stopped talking about 2008.
posted on 2/7/25
comment by Darren The King Fletcher (U10026)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 35 minutes ago
comment by clapfreesince2003 (U22207)
posted 28 minutes ago
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 46 minutes ago
comment by clapfreesince2003 (U22207)
posted 32 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Waiting for Franko - He don't look at no ... (U23088)
posted 10 minutes ago
The Tories are slimy fakers though. Everything is party politics.
They were going to vote against the original bill every though (from what I understand of it) that would be pretty much their own policy.
That Badenoch is like having an 18 year old running the party. I thought she might be a good choice but she hasn't got a fackin clue about anything so far as I can tell, and whats worse can't be rrrrsd to find out.
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It’s the oppositions job to oppose the sitting government. This was certainly the mantra on here for some considerable time.
And it’s the governments job to deliver what they promised, regardless of what went on previously. They had 14 years in opposition and claimed everything was fully funded and there would be dramatic change.
They’ve failed in that but this is the result of them being voted in simply because they weren’t the Conservatives.
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I was listening to the radio today, and the presenters were saying Starmer and Raynor can't keep blaming the Tories for their f-ups.
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Juvenile to ignore the catastraf*ck they inherited and a random on the radio is just as immature.
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No one is saying it should be ignored, but constantly bringing up the Tories mistakes to deflect from your feck up's is becoming tiresome. It happens at every single PM Questions. The presenter was Stig Abell who is far from immature.
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My thoughts exactly.
It's always words to the effect of how dare you ask me that after your disastrous 14 years in charge.
Yet the Tories are the opposition and are only doing what they are supposed to. How long they were in government before being voted out is irrelevant.
One of Starmers many faults is he's extremely thin skinned and can't handle being criticised therefore PMQ's is particularly hard for him which is probably why he'll do anything to avoid it.
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You and the Tories have only just stopped talking about 2008.
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Haha, and the Liam Byrne note.
posted on 2/7/25
comment by Darren The King Fletcher (U10026)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 35 minutes ago
comment by clapfreesince2003 (U22207)
posted 28 minutes ago
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 46 minutes ago
comment by clapfreesince2003 (U22207)
posted 32 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Waiting for Franko - He don't look at no ... (U23088)
posted 10 minutes ago
The Tories are slimy fakers though. Everything is party politics.
They were going to vote against the original bill every though (from what I understand of it) that would be pretty much their own policy.
That Badenoch is like having an 18 year old running the party. I thought she might be a good choice but she hasn't got a fackin clue about anything so far as I can tell, and whats worse can't be rrrrsd to find out.
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It’s the oppositions job to oppose the sitting government. This was certainly the mantra on here for some considerable time.
And it’s the governments job to deliver what they promised, regardless of what went on previously. They had 14 years in opposition and claimed everything was fully funded and there would be dramatic change.
They’ve failed in that but this is the result of them being voted in simply because they weren’t the Conservatives.
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I was listening to the radio today, and the presenters were saying Starmer and Raynor can't keep blaming the Tories for their f-ups.
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Juvenile to ignore the catastraf*ck they inherited and a random on the radio is just as immature.
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No one is saying it should be ignored, but constantly bringing up the Tories mistakes to deflect from your feck up's is becoming tiresome. It happens at every single PM Questions. The presenter was Stig Abell who is far from immature.
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My thoughts exactly.
It's always words to the effect of how dare you ask me that after your disastrous 14 years in charge.
Yet the Tories are the opposition and are only doing what they are supposed to. How long they were in government before being voted out is irrelevant.
One of Starmers many faults is he's extremely thin skinned and can't handle being criticised therefore PMQ's is particularly hard for him which is probably why he'll do anything to avoid it.
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You and the Tories have only just stopped talking about 2008.
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posted on 2/7/25
This former Tory MP has just joined Reform, why am I shocked
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-40555639
posted on 2/7/25
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
Sorry, but as employers surely it’s the employees whose taxes on this earned salary that pays for their healthcare and the like. But then you know I was talking about these “rich” people themselves of course.
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I think your reasoning is from a bygone era of old school conservatism when we had a free market economy. Employer's risk has been underwritten by the state for many years now. Many of them rewarded shareholders instead of planning for headwinds and wouldn't have survived Covid without state intervention.
These businesses would have been weeded out long ago in a free market economy, but instead they have been getting hundreds of billions of free state insurance.
posted on 2/7/25
comment by Michael Scofield (U11781)
posted 2 minutes ago
This former Tory MP has just joined Reform, why am I shocked
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-40555639
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Ffs I thought this was from today and you were just being funny until I saw the date.
posted on 2/7/25
comment by TheFactChecker (U23259)
posted 31 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
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Amount of borrowing
Tax levels.
Debt
Three simple ones right away without even thinking about it.
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Oh ok, so if I hand you a failing business you'd be able to turn it around from day one would you?
You wouldn't approach your lenders to negotiate terms for further borrowing and repayments, try to cut costs, and stimulate growth?
I reiterate I don't like this lot and they aren't doing a good job of turning things around but they didn't create this situation.
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No they didn’t
But they’ve made it far worse
posted on 2/7/25
comment by Darren The King Fletcher (U10026)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by Michael Scofield (U11781)
posted 2 minutes ago
This former Tory MP has just joined Reform, why am I shocked
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-40555639
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Ffs I thought this was from today and you were just being funny until I saw the date.
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she’s gonna lead the party’s formulation of its social care policy
posted on 2/7/25
She’s gonna tell care homes to kill off the brown pensioners
posted on 2/7/25
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posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 36 minutes ago
comment by RB&W - Our representative on the pitch (U21434)
posted 15 minutes ago
Kier.
Stop fackin about trying to squeeze disabled people to pay for the mess the Tories have caused over 15 years.
Just ....tax...the...rich....who....can....afford ...to pay.
Or we will arrange for Angela to do it.
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You might find that most of them have decked off. More will follow.
Which “rich” do you want taxing more?
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Papers owned by the super rich will tell you there's an exodus but independent studies will show that not to be true
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Rich peole who either earn or make loads of money and who have done espcecially over tha last 15 years should pay more to fix Britain. If the rich want Britain to thrive here then its a small price for them to pay to live here. They can easily afford it. Either through personal incomes say over £100k (although seriously rich people wont declare such incomes), and multiple property ownership, or capital gains on business and investment. Then there is the undisclosed revenue streams they hide. Most rich people tick more than one or all of these. Who else do you think should pay? Disabled people on benefits?. Mothers on maternity pay? Poor and unemployed people who have little money? Do you even want or care that the UK recovers or shall we throw it to the dogs and become like a 2nd World country eventually?
And as the number of millionaires living in the UK continues to grow, the precentage of millionaires leaving is a very small percentage of the total millionaire population in the UK. The narrative that there is a current exodus of millionaires from the UK in the Tory press is of course rubbish.
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Blimey. So many unfounded claims here there is nowhere to begin.
They are just your view. That’s all
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LOL Well.... yes, thats what this thread is all about. Its politics you plank. So yes, its what I think. Unlike what the Daily Mail wants people like you to think.
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Oh dear
So you now recognise this is all about opinions (you plank), but they’re all ok as long as they match yours in which case you simply refute them as being led by certain media outlets?
You do understand that works both ways right?
Perhaps not
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I have no love for "the rich" but Starmer has already revealed what he would do ahead of the election, when asked to define who weren't working people he said people with savings.
Hence the ISA slashing that's coming up. If you saved any money that's going to be gobbled up to pay for asset rich pensioners, migrant hotels and a ballooning welfare bill.
Oh and don't think working people will scape the squeeze. He will do his damndest not to raise income, VAT or NI but either the Treasury will browbeat him into it or he will have to do tax rises by stealth: more threshold freezes, more NI raises for employers, fuel duty raised again... the works.
The super rich will just leave, they already are.
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The working man isn’t affected by significantly higher council tax increases or ENIC.
Apparently
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The Pentagon believes Iran's nuclear program has been degraded by 1 to 2 years, the Pentagon spokesperson tells reporters.
Didn’t Trump say it was obliterated?
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Labour's ideological starting point is your success and earnings are simply at the behest of the state and social conditions and thus not earned. So they have no issue just squeezing you in the name of equality.
And additionally, in the name of the pensioners lobby as they actually vote, and the human rights industrial complex.
posted on 2/7/25
comment by NPE - Maresca's Minions (U22712)
posted 4 minutes ago
I have no love for "the rich" but Starmer has already revealed what he would do ahead of the election, when asked to define who weren't working people he said people with savings.
Hence the ISA slashing that's coming up. If you saved any money that's going to be gobbled up to pay for asset rich pensioners, migrant hotels and a ballooning welfare bill.
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Slashing ISA's is just another supporting measure for the wealthy because the money will then go into assets, shares, property etc.
posted on 2/7/25
comment by TheFactChecker (U23259)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by NPE - Maresca's Minions (U22712)
posted 4 minutes ago
I have no love for "the rich" but Starmer has already revealed what he would do ahead of the election, when asked to define who weren't working people he said people with savings.
Hence the ISA slashing that's coming up. If you saved any money that's going to be gobbled up to pay for asset rich pensioners, migrant hotels and a ballooning welfare bill.
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Slashing ISA's is just another supporting measure for the wealthy because the money will then go into assets, shares, property etc.
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I have no idea who you're referring to most people who have 1 or 2 small cash ISAa aren't super rich. I have one, if it gets removed I will have to put it into savings where it'll be taxed. I haven't got assets to pour wealth into, I am a renter in London. It's just a little bit I saved from being under effective house arrest in the pandemic when we couldn't leave our homes.
You think I am risking a stocks and shares ISA or a Brit ISA lol with the state of out stock exchange?
posted on 2/7/25
comment by TheFactChecker (U23259)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by NPE - Maresca's Minions (U22712)
posted 4 minutes ago
I have no love for "the rich" but Starmer has already revealed what he would do ahead of the election, when asked to define who weren't working people he said people with savings.
Hence the ISA slashing that's coming up. If you saved any money that's going to be gobbled up to pay for asset rich pensioners, migrant hotels and a ballooning welfare bill.
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Slashing ISA's is just another supporting measure for the wealthy because the money will then go into assets, shares, property etc.
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Eh?
ISA’s are maxed out at £20k per annum and depending on what ISA you have, you can easily lose money as well. Most who can throw something into an ISS see is at as a savings plan to help them in retirement and therefore have a cash ISA.
posted on 2/7/25
comment by NPE - Maresca's Minions (U22712)
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I have no idea who you're referring to most people who have 1 or 2 small cash ISAa aren't super rich. I have one, if it gets removed I will have to put it into savings where it'll be taxed. I haven't got assets to pour wealth into, I am a renter in London. It's just a little bit I saved from being under effective house arrest in the pandemic when we couldn't leave our homes.
You think I am risking a stocks and shares ISA or a Brit ISA lol with the state of out stock exchange?
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People who have one or two small cash ISA's aren't going to get taxed much passed their tax free allowance are they. It doesn't affect you that much does it.
People who are easily putting 20k into one easily are going to put the money into shares or pay off their mortgage.
posted on 2/7/25
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
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Eh?
ISA’s are maxed out at £20k per annum and depending on what ISA you have, you can easily lose money as well. Most who can throw something into an ISS see is at as a savings plan to help them in retirement and therefore have a cash ISA.
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Ok, so where do I put my spare 20k each year now then?
posted on 2/7/25
comment by TheFactChecker (U23259)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by NPE - Maresca's Minions (U22712)
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I have no idea who you're referring to most people who have 1 or 2 small cash ISAa aren't super rich. I have one, if it gets removed I will have to put it into savings where it'll be taxed. I haven't got assets to pour wealth into, I am a renter in London. It's just a little bit I saved from being under effective house arrest in the pandemic when we couldn't leave our homes.
You think I am risking a stocks and shares ISA or a Brit ISA lol with the state of out stock exchange?
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People who have one or two small cash ISA's aren't going to get taxed much passed their tax free allowance are they. It doesn't affect you that much does it.
People who are easily putting 20k into one easily are going to put the money into shares or pay off their mortgage.
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They’ll pay down their mortgage if they have one and have any sense.
posted on 2/7/25
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 17 seconds ago
comment by TheFactChecker (U23259)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by NPE - Maresca's Minions (U22712)
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I have no idea who you're referring to most people who have 1 or 2 small cash ISAa aren't super rich. I have one, if it gets removed I will have to put it into savings where it'll be taxed. I haven't got assets to pour wealth into, I am a renter in London. It's just a little bit I saved from being under effective house arrest in the pandemic when we couldn't leave our homes.
You think I am risking a stocks and shares ISA or a Brit ISA lol with the state of out stock exchange?
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People who have one or two small cash ISA's aren't going to get taxed much passed their tax free allowance are they. It doesn't affect you that much does it.
People who are easily putting 20k into one easily are going to put the money into shares or pay off their mortgage.
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They’ll pay down their mortgage if they have one and have any sense.
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Quite a lot of people don't have a mortgage.
See my question above.
posted on 2/7/25
comment by TheFactChecker (U23259)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
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Eh?
ISA’s are maxed out at £20k per annum and depending on what ISA you have, you can easily lose money as well. Most who can throw something into an ISS see is at as a savings plan to help them in retirement and therefore have a cash ISA.
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Ok, so where do I put my spare 20k each year now then?
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If you have a spare £20k I’m going to hazard a guess that you already know where it’s going.
Gambling on a stock exchange is just that. Gambling
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