comment by Darren The King Fletcher (U10026)
posted 1 hour, 39 minutes ago
It’s an absolute disgrace. The British government is complicit in genocide and they’re arresting people for opposing it.
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That looks like such a reductive statement, but it’s literally as simple as that.

Starmer and Lammy are complicit in genocide.

And their government is criminalising decent, considered, well-educated, respectful and compassionate Britons who oppose their complicity.

It’s a fůcking all ends up disgrace. It’s indefensible and unforgivable.

Assassination of the entire Al Jazeera crew in Gaza City, including its correspondents and cameramen:

Correspondent: Anas Al-Sharif
Correspondent: Mohammed Qareqea
Cameraman: Ibrahim Zaher
Cameraman: Moamen Aliwa
Crew Driver: Mohammed Nofal

This was Anas Al-Sharif’s last tweet an hour before he died

https://x.com/anasalsharif0/status/1954640127780872468?s=46&t=bPTrpdgNggCdz9igvhmVyw

https://x.com/dorindadeadly/status/1954475658886758409?s=46

🤣

The biggest social event of the year. Who’s who at GB news. Featuring famous faces like Jeremy Vine and many more ..

comment by Michael Scofield (U11781)
posted 3 hours, 47 minutes ago
Assassination of the entire Al Jazeera crew in Gaza City, including its correspondents and cameramen:

Correspondent: Anas Al-Sharif
Correspondent: Mohammed Qareqea
Cameraman: Ibrahim Zaher
Cameraman: Moamen Aliwa
Crew Driver: Mohammed Nofal

This was Anas Al-Sharif’s last tweet an hour before he died

https://x.com/anasalsharif0/status/1954640127780872468?s=46&t=bPTrpdgNggCdz9igvhmVyw
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Already the hasbara machine has gone into overdrive and are saying he was Hamas. Bob Vylan was right.

They take bulls hitting to a whole new level.

comment by Michael Scofield (U11781)
posted 8 hours, 3 minutes ago
Assassination of the entire Al Jazeera crew in Gaza City, including its correspondents and cameramen:

Correspondent: Anas Al-Sharif
Correspondent: Mohammed Qareqea
Cameraman: Ibrahim Zaher
Cameraman: Moamen Aliwa
Crew Driver: Mohammed Nofal

This was Anas Al-Sharif’s last tweet an hour before he died

https://x.com/anasalsharif0/status/1954640127780872468?s=46&t=bPTrpdgNggCdz9igvhmVyw
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RIP

Australia to recognise a Palestinian state 👏

More and more countries beginning to move the needle.

Anas Al Sharif was born in 1996.

He was 4 when the Second Intifada began in 2000. He was 11 when Israel imposed the blockade on Gaza in 2007. He was 12 during Cast Lead in 2008–2009. He was 18 during the 2014 assault on Gaza. He was 29 when Israel assassinated him in 2025.

I suggest that the problem in Ukraine essentially is that the west and centre of the country have always wanted to join europe, and the east and south have always wanted to stay alligend with Russia.
But the country's constitution prohibits secession/separation.
In fact the sensible thing is for the east/south to secede (or at least have autonomy), but NATO/US/UK and Ukraine government don't allow this, because apparently it's not democratic.

Oh bloody hell not you again

Reviewing Ukrainian politics since independence. It's mental.

but that does make perfect sense in fairness. what I suggested. It's the obvious outcome, but it's what 'we' are currently vehemently opposing. Even though it would mean the end of the war.

comment by 7 (U23088)
posted 11 minutes ago
but that does make perfect sense in fairness. what I suggested. It's the obvious outcome, but it's what 'we' are currently vehemently opposing. Even though it would mean the end of the war.
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Not it does not make sense. Secession unilaterally does not make sense legally and is anarchic in its implementation in modern society.

What makes sense is Russia respecting the sovereign borders of another country and following international law. That’s it. That’s all that makes sense. Anything else you suggest is just an admission that you do not believe in the rule of law, you do not believe in respecting the rights of people, or of sovereign states.

comment by 7 (U23088)
posted 49 minutes ago
I suggest that the problem in Ukraine essentially is that the west and centre of the country have always wanted to join europe, and the east and south have always wanted to stay alligend with Russia.
But the country's constitution prohibits secession/separation.
In fact the sensible thing is for the east/south to secede (or at least have autonomy), but NATO/US/UK and Ukraine government don't allow this, because apparently it's not democratic.
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“I suggest that the problem in Ukraine essentially is that the west and centre of the country have always wanted to join europe, and the east and south have always wanted to stay alligend with Russia.“

Still demonstrably untrue. I mean, you were presented with historical voting data and opinion polls which plainly and directly contradicted your statement just this weekend.

I don’t know if you’re trolling, completely brainwashed, or on the payroll, but it’s one of the three.

If anyone's on the payroll to spread misinformation to the 100 blokes on here then Putin is wasting his money

‘7’ is the Rabbi Schmuelly of the site

comment by bmcl1987 - the M stands for meltdown 🤓 (U14177)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by 7 (U23088)
posted 11 minutes ago
but that does make perfect sense in fairness. what I suggested. It's the obvious outcome, but it's what 'we' are currently vehemently opposing. Even though it would mean the end of the war.
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Not it does not make sense. Secession unilaterally does not make sense legally and is anarchic in its implementation in modern society.
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This doesn't seem very convincing to me personally, in the wake of half a million people being dead.

It doesn't seem convincing either in light of Ukraine's history, or of the preferences of the citizens of east and south Ukraine.

The roots of so-called Ukrainian nationalism are partly in the anarchic movement incidentally.

comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted 11 minutes ago
If anyone's on the payroll to spread misinformation to the 100 blokes on here then Putin is wasting his money
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don't tell him that for God's sake.

comment by EVERYTHING’S POTE! (U17054)
posted 13 minutes ago
comment by 7 (U23088)
posted 49 minutes ago
I suggest that the problem in Ukraine essentially is that the west and centre of the country have always wanted to join europe, and the east and south have always wanted to stay alligend with Russia.
But the country's constitution prohibits secession/separation.
In fact the sensible thing is for the east/south to secede (or at least have autonomy), but NATO/US/UK and Ukraine government don't allow this, because apparently it's not democratic.
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“I suggest that the problem in Ukraine essentially is that the west and centre of the country have always wanted to join europe, and the east and south have always wanted to stay alligend with Russia.“

Still demonstrably untrue. I mean, you were presented with historical voting data and opinion polls which plainly and directly contradicted your statement just this weekend.

I don’t know if you’re trolling, completely brainwashed, or on the payroll, but it’s one of the three.
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You have information on voting data and opinion polls which demonstrate that the east and west of the country have not since independence wished to stay aligned with Russia?

* east and south * correction.

comment by 7 (U23088)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by bmcl1987 - the M stands for meltdown 🤓 (U14177)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by 7 (U23088)
posted 11 minutes ago
but that does make perfect sense in fairness. what I suggested. It's the obvious outcome, but it's what 'we' are currently vehemently opposing. Even though it would mean the end of the war.
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Not it does not make sense. Secession unilaterally does not make sense legally and is anarchic in its implementation in modern society.
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This doesn't seem very convincing to me personally, in the wake of half a million people being dead.

It doesn't seem convincing either in light of Ukraine's history, or of the preferences of the citizens of east and south Ukraine.

The roots of so-called Ukrainian nationalism are partly in the anarchic movement incidentally.
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Every one of those deaths is on Putin and the Russian regime.

comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 52 seconds ago
comment by 7 (U23088)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by bmcl1987 - the M stands for meltdown 🤓 (U14177)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by 7 (U23088)
posted 11 minutes ago
but that does make perfect sense in fairness. what I suggested. It's the obvious outcome, but it's what 'we' are currently vehemently opposing. Even though it would mean the end of the war.
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Not it does not make sense. Secession unilaterally does not make sense legally and is anarchic in its implementation in modern society.
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This doesn't seem very convincing to me personally, in the wake of half a million people being dead.

It doesn't seem convincing either in light of Ukraine's history, or of the preferences of the citizens of east and south Ukraine.

The roots of so-called Ukrainian nationalism are partly in the anarchic movement incidentally.
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Every one of those deaths is on Putin and the Russian regime.
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They're on whoever could have prevented them from happening.

But we're changing the subject from my original point that the country of Ukraine (which didn't exist prior to the Soviet Union, and which is influenced significantly by the far west of the country which only became part of it after WW2 having never previously been associated with Ukraine or Russia) has been split in two politically and culturally since its inception, and it makes sense for power to be given to the east for self determination, a right which is denied under the constitution which nobody in Ukraine other than politicians voted for.

comment by 7 (U23088)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 52 seconds ago
comment by 7 (U23088)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by bmcl1987 - the M stands for meltdown 🤓 (U14177)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by 7 (U23088)
posted 11 minutes ago
but that does make perfect sense in fairness. what I suggested. It's the obvious outcome, but it's what 'we' are currently vehemently opposing. Even though it would mean the end of the war.
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Not it does not make sense. Secession unilaterally does not make sense legally and is anarchic in its implementation in modern society.
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This doesn't seem very convincing to me personally, in the wake of half a million people being dead.

It doesn't seem convincing either in light of Ukraine's history, or of the preferences of the citizens of east and south Ukraine.

The roots of so-called Ukrainian nationalism are partly in the anarchic movement incidentally.
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Every one of those deaths is on Putin and the Russian regime.
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They're on whoever could have prevented them from happening.

But we're changing the subject from my original point that the country of Ukraine (which didn't exist prior to the Soviet Union, and which is influenced significantly by the far west of the country which only became part of it after WW2 having never previously been associated with Ukraine or Russia) has been split in two politically and culturally since its inception, and it makes sense for power to be given to the east for self determination, a right which is denied under the constitution which nobody in Ukraine other than politicians voted for.
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Nope, Russia invaded, 100% responsible for every death military and civilian. Denial of that FACT just makes you untrustworthy and disingenuous in every other argument.

comment by 7 (U23088)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by EVERYTHING’S POTE! (U17054)
posted 13 minutes ago
comment by 7 (U23088)
posted 49 minutes ago
I suggest that the problem in Ukraine essentially is that the west and centre of the country have always wanted to join europe, and the east and south have always wanted to stay alligend with Russia.
But the country's constitution prohibits secession/separation.
In fact the sensible thing is for the east/south to secede (or at least have autonomy), but NATO/US/UK and Ukraine government don't allow this, because apparently it's not democratic.
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“I suggest that the problem in Ukraine essentially is that the west and centre of the country have always wanted to join europe, and the east and south have always wanted to stay alligend with Russia.“

Still demonstrably untrue. I mean, you were presented with historical voting data and opinion polls which plainly and directly contradicted your statement just this weekend.

I don’t know if you’re trolling, completely brainwashed, or on the payroll, but it’s one of the three.
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You have information on voting data and opinion polls which demonstrate that the east and west of the country have not since independence wished to stay aligned with Russia?
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You were shown data this weekend which demonstrated that voters in the east and south of the country, both pre- and post-2014, were not interested in secession and were majority in favour of closer integration with the EU.

In the years leading up to 2022, voters in parts of the east (not the south) showed a strong interest in decentralisation and greater autonomy for Donetsk and Luhansk *under the sovereignty of the Ukrainian state*. That much is true. But even the parties they supported which were advocating such were also openly calling for a free trade deal with the EU.

You are purposefully trying to muddy the waters to suggest that Ukrainians in the east (and now south) were interested in secession and/or integration with the Russian state, and it’s just bullshiiiit. It’s a fabrication, and it’s propaganda.