Don't try and wum the tiny totts, they are over last night
Can't you tell by all the deleted posts
Harry Redknapp, started at 36, won a promotion at 40 and a raffle at 56.
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Didn't old 'arry win the FA Cup with Pompey? Was pretty old though.
Indeed he did.
Harry was just included for the bantz.
The media defintely seem certain to keep advocating spurs as the team of the future. Apart from Sanchez and Alli, every spurs player was 24 or older last night and this is Poch's 4th season. How much longer can they keep trotting out the line that this will be something they can learn from?
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Yep serial winner is Roy.
Obviously there is an element of WUM to this article, but it’s a valid question that Poch hasn’t been a winner to date, what’s going to change?
Based entirely on appearance
comment by The Welsh Xavi (U15412)
posted 50 minutes ago
The media defintely seem certain to keep advocating spurs as the team of the future. Apart from Sanchez and Alli, every spurs player was 24 or older last night and this is Poch's 4th season. How much longer can they keep trotting out the line that this will be something they can learn from?
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Pretty sure everywhere is saying we should start winning stuff now, what you’ve said isn’t true at all.
Good article. Poch seems to be building a decent squad but shouldn't be mentioned in the same breath as highly successful managers like Klopp, Guardiola, Conte, Mourinho etc until he has at least won something.
Pochy is an excellent manager in all seriousness. You don't necessarily have to win trophies to be good.
If you got the ol' time machine out and assembled the greatest 10 managers ever to have lived and put each of them in charge of a PL team, at the end of the season only one could win the league but it doesn't mean the other 9 weren't any good.
I doubt spurs will ever win the PL in the next decade or the CL but more because of spurs finances rather than their manager.
The best managers win stuff.
Poch has done well with Spurs but IMO the structure of the club has given him that platform as much as anything. Levy has done a great job in general and made it relatively easy for a good coach to improve the team.
I don’t think he’s done anything amazing and I don’t really understand why he’s being linked with jobs like Madrid. Their should be a long list of options for them before they get to Pochettino.
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comment by The Welsh Xavi (U15412)
posted 50 minutes ago
The media defintely seem certain to keep advocating spurs as the team of the future. Apart from Sanchez and Alli, every spurs player was 24 or older last night and this is Poch's 4th season. How much longer can they keep trotting out the line that this will be something they can learn from?
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Pretty sure everywhere is saying we should start winning stuff now, what you’ve said isn’t true at all.
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Nah there's an article on BBC by their main football writer talking about how the defeat can be used to 'shape your bright future', and a couple of pundits last night mentioned this would be good experience and so on
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it appears poch wasn't old enough to realise that going straight down tunnel and not at least acknowledging crowd after that disappointment is mourinho-esque in it ignorance.
comment by Totally Automatic (U21430)
posted 17 minutes ago
Question is, would we swap him for anyone else?
Guaranteed the answer will be no!
Certainly not for Kilppery Klopp.
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Yeah but you are an idiot.
the difference today between a run of the mill coach and a real top coach is technical detail
You can see three things form guardiola
a. Philosophy comes across extremely clear. its not changing
b) attention to detail and systems. pep is legendary in this aspect. football has got to the point where jogging up with out this and you lose and players need the direction. Sterling has been made a player with direction.
c) team work. He got shut of yaya and any thought of individual stardom pretty quick
If you look at the prem right now.
1. City: guardiola is the standard
2. Utd: mourinho is just negative but his systems are clear.
3. LFC: Klopp has all of the traits above. sans the moneyof city
4. Spurs. Poch has a clear strategy and attention to detail. again lacks a bit of pace wide but is very clear i nthe aims
5. Cheslea. wheels have come off as a club and relationship but conte is extremely clear in the three points. One of most rated tacticians on the planet
No other manager in the prem comes within 50 miles of these guys.
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posted 1 hour, 3 minutes ago
comment by selbstgerechtein (U7048)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Totally Automatic (U21430)
posted 17 minutes ago
Question is, would we swap him for anyone else?
Guaranteed the answer will be no!
Certainly not for Kilppery Klopp.
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Yeah but you are an idiot.
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If it ain’t broke......
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But it’s not working well is it?
The season most of the premier league elite where sh!t you couldn’t beat Leicester to the title.
Poch has constantly failed at European level and you’ve made hard work of lower league teams on numerous occasions in the fa cup.
What you have to consider is with the trophies won, did said coaches have to significantly improve the clubs to win the trophies they did?
Mourinho certainly did with the CL win, but his title wins with Porto are hardly outliers.
Guardiola did a great job at Barca, but they are Barca. They are expected to win it.
Klopp did with Dortmund, but it is ultimately finishing above one club to win a title and Dortmund are a huge German club who have won the CL. He is now in his 3rd at Liverpool without a trophy of any sort.
You get the gist.
Poch's management career has seen him spend most at Espanyol and Saints. Nobody would expect anyone to win a trophy at either.
In his time at Spurs he could well have concentrated on domestic cups, and in his first season he lost a final to the champions. Season 2 and 3 he tried to win the league and had zero room for error as he chased clubs in first.. This season, I expect him to go full out for the FA cup.
If he does win it, this attention will then turn to Klopp
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comment by HRH King Ledley (U20095)
posted 1 hour, 41 minutes ago
What you have to consider is with the trophies won, did said coaches have to significantly improve the clubs to win the trophies they did?
Mourinho certainly did with the CL win, but his title wins with Porto are hardly outliers.
Guardiola did a great job at Barca, but they are Barca. They are expected to win it.
Klopp did with Dortmund, but it is ultimately finishing above one club to win a title and Dortmund are a huge German club who have won the CL. He is now in his 3rd at Liverpool without a trophy of any sort.
You get the gist.
Poch's management career has seen him spend most at Espanyol and Saints. Nobody would expect anyone to win a trophy at either.
In his time at Spurs he could well have concentrated on domestic cups, and in his first season he lost a final to the champions. Season 2 and 3 he tried to win the league and had zero room for error as he chased clubs in first.. This season, I expect him to go full out for the FA cup.
If he does win it, this attention will then turn to Klopp
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I think Spurs fans are setting themselves up for a fall by putting all their eggs in the FA Cup basket.
I’d say we are more likely to win the CL than you are the FA Cup, and we are not particularly likely to do that.
Rather like Spurs fans were dismissing Juve.
I think he's a very good manager. However I think what we are seeing is a very good team at its peak, yet they remain potless.
Until Levy changes his wage structure I think they will lose players and the manager to the big boys who will pay them what they rightly deserve.
Potless Poch has a chance to win the cup. However the clever money would be on them combusting again.
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posted on 8/3/18
Don't try and wum the tiny totts, they are over last night
Can't you tell by all the deleted posts
posted on 8/3/18
Harry Redknapp, started at 36, won a promotion at 40 and a raffle at 56.
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Didn't old 'arry win the FA Cup with Pompey? Was pretty old though.
posted on 8/3/18
Indeed he did.
Harry was just included for the bantz.
posted on 8/3/18
The media defintely seem certain to keep advocating spurs as the team of the future. Apart from Sanchez and Alli, every spurs player was 24 or older last night and this is Poch's 4th season. How much longer can they keep trotting out the line that this will be something they can learn from?
posted on 8/3/18
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posted on 8/3/18
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posted on 8/3/18
Yep serial winner is Roy.
Obviously there is an element of WUM to this article, but it’s a valid question that Poch hasn’t been a winner to date, what’s going to change?
posted on 8/3/18
Based entirely on appearance
posted on 8/3/18
comment by The Welsh Xavi (U15412)
posted 50 minutes ago
The media defintely seem certain to keep advocating spurs as the team of the future. Apart from Sanchez and Alli, every spurs player was 24 or older last night and this is Poch's 4th season. How much longer can they keep trotting out the line that this will be something they can learn from?
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Pretty sure everywhere is saying we should start winning stuff now, what you’ve said isn’t true at all.
posted on 8/3/18
Good article. Poch seems to be building a decent squad but shouldn't be mentioned in the same breath as highly successful managers like Klopp, Guardiola, Conte, Mourinho etc until he has at least won something.
posted on 8/3/18
Pochy is an excellent manager in all seriousness. You don't necessarily have to win trophies to be good.
If you got the ol' time machine out and assembled the greatest 10 managers ever to have lived and put each of them in charge of a PL team, at the end of the season only one could win the league but it doesn't mean the other 9 weren't any good.
I doubt spurs will ever win the PL in the next decade or the CL but more because of spurs finances rather than their manager.
posted on 8/3/18
The best managers win stuff.
Poch has done well with Spurs but IMO the structure of the club has given him that platform as much as anything. Levy has done a great job in general and made it relatively easy for a good coach to improve the team.
I don’t think he’s done anything amazing and I don’t really understand why he’s being linked with jobs like Madrid. Their should be a long list of options for them before they get to Pochettino.
posted on 8/3/18
comment by Bennyville (U8058)
posted 20 minutes ago
comment by The Welsh Xavi (U15412)
posted 50 minutes ago
The media defintely seem certain to keep advocating spurs as the team of the future. Apart from Sanchez and Alli, every spurs player was 24 or older last night and this is Poch's 4th season. How much longer can they keep trotting out the line that this will be something they can learn from?
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Pretty sure everywhere is saying we should start winning stuff now, what you’ve said isn’t true at all.
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Nah there's an article on BBC by their main football writer talking about how the defeat can be used to 'shape your bright future', and a couple of pundits last night mentioned this would be good experience and so on
posted on 8/3/18
One article.
posted on 8/3/18
Excellent article.
posted on 8/3/18
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posted on 8/3/18
it appears poch wasn't old enough to realise that going straight down tunnel and not at least acknowledging crowd after that disappointment is mourinho-esque in it ignorance.
posted on 8/3/18
comment by Totally Automatic (U21430)
posted 17 minutes ago
Question is, would we swap him for anyone else?
Guaranteed the answer will be no!
Certainly not for Kilppery Klopp.
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Yeah but you are an idiot.
posted on 8/3/18
the difference today between a run of the mill coach and a real top coach is technical detail
You can see three things form guardiola
a. Philosophy comes across extremely clear. its not changing
b) attention to detail and systems. pep is legendary in this aspect. football has got to the point where jogging up with out this and you lose and players need the direction. Sterling has been made a player with direction.
c) team work. He got shut of yaya and any thought of individual stardom pretty quick
If you look at the prem right now.
1. City: guardiola is the standard
2. Utd: mourinho is just negative but his systems are clear.
3. LFC: Klopp has all of the traits above. sans the moneyof city
4. Spurs. Poch has a clear strategy and attention to detail. again lacks a bit of pace wide but is very clear i nthe aims
5. Cheslea. wheels have come off as a club and relationship but conte is extremely clear in the three points. One of most rated tacticians on the planet
No other manager in the prem comes within 50 miles of these guys.
posted on 8/3/18
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posted on 8/3/18
comment by Totally Automatic (U21430)
posted 1 hour, 3 minutes ago
comment by selbstgerechtein (U7048)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Totally Automatic (U21430)
posted 17 minutes ago
Question is, would we swap him for anyone else?
Guaranteed the answer will be no!
Certainly not for Kilppery Klopp.
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Yeah but you are an idiot.
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If it ain’t broke......
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But it’s not working well is it?
The season most of the premier league elite where sh!t you couldn’t beat Leicester to the title.
Poch has constantly failed at European level and you’ve made hard work of lower league teams on numerous occasions in the fa cup.
posted on 8/3/18
What you have to consider is with the trophies won, did said coaches have to significantly improve the clubs to win the trophies they did?
Mourinho certainly did with the CL win, but his title wins with Porto are hardly outliers.
Guardiola did a great job at Barca, but they are Barca. They are expected to win it.
Klopp did with Dortmund, but it is ultimately finishing above one club to win a title and Dortmund are a huge German club who have won the CL. He is now in his 3rd at Liverpool without a trophy of any sort.
You get the gist.
Poch's management career has seen him spend most at Espanyol and Saints. Nobody would expect anyone to win a trophy at either.
In his time at Spurs he could well have concentrated on domestic cups, and in his first season he lost a final to the champions. Season 2 and 3 he tried to win the league and had zero room for error as he chased clubs in first.. This season, I expect him to go full out for the FA cup.
If he does win it, this attention will then turn to Klopp
posted on 8/3/18
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posted on 8/3/18
comment by HRH King Ledley (U20095)
posted 1 hour, 41 minutes ago
What you have to consider is with the trophies won, did said coaches have to significantly improve the clubs to win the trophies they did?
Mourinho certainly did with the CL win, but his title wins with Porto are hardly outliers.
Guardiola did a great job at Barca, but they are Barca. They are expected to win it.
Klopp did with Dortmund, but it is ultimately finishing above one club to win a title and Dortmund are a huge German club who have won the CL. He is now in his 3rd at Liverpool without a trophy of any sort.
You get the gist.
Poch's management career has seen him spend most at Espanyol and Saints. Nobody would expect anyone to win a trophy at either.
In his time at Spurs he could well have concentrated on domestic cups, and in his first season he lost a final to the champions. Season 2 and 3 he tried to win the league and had zero room for error as he chased clubs in first.. This season, I expect him to go full out for the FA cup.
If he does win it, this attention will then turn to Klopp
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I think Spurs fans are setting themselves up for a fall by putting all their eggs in the FA Cup basket.
I’d say we are more likely to win the CL than you are the FA Cup, and we are not particularly likely to do that.
Rather like Spurs fans were dismissing Juve.
posted on 8/3/18
I think he's a very good manager. However I think what we are seeing is a very good team at its peak, yet they remain potless.
Until Levy changes his wage structure I think they will lose players and the manager to the big boys who will pay them what they rightly deserve.
Potless Poch has a chance to win the cup. However the clever money would be on them combusting again.
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