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Enrique or Morris?

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posted on 27/4/18

I don't want Enrique mainly because of the wage demands but appointing Morris is just a no go.

Im guessing your reason is anyone can be successful at Barca? Well doesn't that also apply with our youth teams and then some? Since 2010 we have been the most dominant in academy terms since the Busby babes.

posted on 27/4/18

comment by ------- (U21614)
posted 31 minutes ago
I don't want Enrique mainly because of the wage demands but appointing Morris is just a no go.

Im guessing your reason is anyone can be successful at Barca? Well doesn't that also apply with our youth teams and then some? Since 2010 we have been the most dominant in academy terms since the Busby babes.
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Good guess. Wrong but still a good guess. It’s because before Barcelona he’s been underwhelming.

I’d prefer Morris based on he’s a Chelsea boy. He is kinda serving/served his apprenticeship and as I feel the Enrique appointment would be a disaster, I’d rather go for a Chelsea boy who’d be cheaper and would perhaps play the younger players.

Plus hiring Morris for the role, would in my eyes suggest the club aren’t demanding instant success or are changing the goal posts (from what I feel they are).

posted on 27/4/18

Why would you want Jody Morris getting the job?

Enrique all the way out of those two, but hopefully there are better options.

comment by Devil (U6522)

posted on 27/4/18

What a horrific choice

Enrique between the two of them, because at least he has experience dealing with top class footballers both as a player and a manager.

To put this into prospective for anyone whose entertaining the idea of Morris, we already know we have a fairly temperamental squad at the minute (can just as easily win the league as finish 10th) and we expect them to trust and listen to someone who not only hasn't achieved anything as a manager - no youth level trophies DON'T count (just to make that clear) - but wasn't anything special as a player either? Really think about that.

Someone like Lampard is legitimately a better option than Jody Morris, and I mean that. Keep him with the under 18's (or promote him to U23's) where he's doing a lot of good

posted on 28/4/18

Jody Morris would be ideal tbh about time we adopted the barca model and promoted within

posted on 28/4/18

Morris
Rodgers
Mick McCarthy

Is my top 3 order of preference. I'd take Carlo but only if Lamps was an assistant.

But Jody would defo be the best option and he deserves it

posted on 29/4/18

Enrique + Jody assisting ?

posted on 29/4/18

Fk Enrique he's $hit

posted on 29/4/18

we already know we have a fairly temperamental squad at the minute
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That’s a nice way of putting it

comment by Devil (U6522)

posted on 29/4/18

we already know we have a fairly temperamental squad at the minute
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That’s a nice way of putting it
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Indeed

comment by Devil (U6522)

posted on 29/4/18

I remember comment back in the day like "imagine RVP taking orders from Moyes".

Well imagine Hazard taking orders from Morris

Behave.

posted on 29/4/18

comment by The Devil's Advocate's Advocate - I Represent Him (U6522)
posted 1 day, 19 hours ago
What a horrific choice

Enrique between the two of them, because at least he has experience dealing with top class footballers both as a player and a manager.

To put this into prospective for anyone whose entertaining the idea of Morris, we already know we have a fairly temperamental squad at the minute (can just as easily win the league as finish 10th) and we expect them to trust and listen to someone who not only hasn't achieved anything as a manager - no youth level trophies DON'T count (just to make that clear) - but wasn't anything special as a player either? Really think about that.

Someone like Lampard is legitimately a better option than Jody Morris, and I mean that. Keep him with the under 18's (or promote him to U23's) where he's doing a lot of good
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and what was jose mourinho famed for before he came to us? Jody has our youth playing excellent football. He also know who if any are ready to make the jump to the first team many are screaming about.

posted on 29/4/18

id like to see steve gerrard as manager for Chelsea as that would garantee us 6 points a season without kicking a ball, he was always getting us important games for us against pool.

comment by Devil (U6522)

posted on 29/4/18

Vara rising

Winning the CL with Porto perhaps?

Being a good youth team manager means nothing. Just because the idea of him becoming our Guardiola sounds romantic doesn't mean it'll happen like that. The idea of him being our new manager's assistant wasn't bad, but even then why remove him from the U18's where he's going a lot of good? If it ain't broke...

posted on 30/4/18

Does anyone on here actually remember Morris as a player You don't really want someone charged of assualt and also accused of sexual assault in charge of the first team. Nothing against Morris, and people make mistakes when they are younger, but he was all too flash on and off the pitch for someone with a medium of talent, for my liking. Hope he keeps doing well with the youth team.

posted on 30/4/18

and what was jose mourinho famed for before he came to us? Jody has our youth playing excellent football. He also know who if any are ready to make the jump to the first team many are screaming about.
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Is that a serious question? done a fantastic, out worldly job for two clubs before us.

posted on 30/4/18

No, Morris can't possibly stay with u18's another season.
Won every possible trophy at that level in 2 years (with different generation of academy players), playing progressive dominant football, mentally and physically preparing them into perennial (resolute) winners breaking records. Overqualified for that next season. Really pleased Morris has managed to clean up his act after shady past.
Got to progress (I'm not sure u23 has enough competition to fulfill the next stage)...

Lampard being fast-tracked into first-team coaching capacity with no experience & qualification doesn't sit well with me (even if he is arguably our greatest and/or most successful ever player), whilst Morris has had that unprecedented success coaching.
Lampard starting at youth level would be a good first step into coaching/management for him (once he has completed coaching badges & acquired licence), as a precursor to this...Lampard has been watching & involved in training u18's occasionally on a part-time basis + seeking advice from Morris going into coaching.

The only thing going against Morris is he doesn't have the allure or reputation of a Pep or Zidane, but that can be built over time.

So yeah to dismiss Morris as a candidate at least is wrong, snobbery in my opinion.

posted on 30/4/18

Watch his side play tonight (ITV4) at Emirates against Arsenal, 3-1 up from first leg

comment by Devil (U6522)

posted on 30/4/18

The only thing going against Morris is he doesn't have the allure or reputation of a Pep or Zidane, but that can be built over time.
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False. The fact he has zero experience at professional level as a coach goes against him. The allure thing is valid too, but can be overlooked for the right candidate (e.g. someone like Jardim comes to mind)

Working in a coaching capacity, even as a manager, at youth level is much more about the coaching aspect of the game. The step up to professional level is much more all encompassing, and Morris hasn't even experienced traces of it (never coached first team players, been an ass man, etc...). It would be an absolute punt in the dark, won't happen and shouldn't happen.

posted on 30/4/18

Yeah nonsense point about allure tbh. He should start at pro level at either assistant or lower league.

posted on 30/4/18

You've got to start somewhere and eventually make a (high-profile) name for yourself.

What experience did Pep have as a coach at (senior) professional level prior to being appointed Barcelona manager?

Of course Morris being appointed isn't likely to materialise at all but would be a hugely impressive (risky) direction to take if it were to hypothetically happen.
Knows club inside out, new direction, modern ideas, long-term vision.

posted on 30/4/18

He managed Barca B who are in the equivalent of the championship.

And he was a far superior player. And it's done differently on the continent.

Massive differences.

posted on 30/4/18

Managed a young squad.

posted on 30/4/18

comment by Devil (U6522)

posted on 30/4/18

What experience did Pep have as a coach at (senior) professional level prior to being appointed Barcelona manager?
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Different case completely. Barca had a structure in place for 10+ years prior to appointing Guardiola. Had coaches prior to Guardiola who operated under the same Cryuff philosophy, everything about the club was consistent from youth to professional level. We have none of that right now.

Plus, Guardiola since has proven to simply be an outstanding manager. The fact his successor at Barca B is the subject of this article representing the typical overhyped manager just stresses how much of a one off Guardiola was.

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