Dinghy lipped plank who cost England cos he can't take a pen
Then had the audacity to laugh about it while making money off Pizza Hut
Another bland total yes man.
Doesn't inspire me in the least, although I do like a lot of what he is doing.
But we needn't really worry. We will flop in the summer and he will get the boot. Then Wenger will fill his boots.
cannot stand the sight of him
Doiong a good job this far. Don't care if he comes across as dull provided we get to the waurter finals and don't embarass ourselves against Panama.
I never liked the appointment but I cannot fault him so far.
Although I can see why people say he can come across as boring I actually think he is quite interesting in interviews and makes sense when he speaks.
No matter what he does now he will be judged on how well England do in the world cup. So far so good but then Hodgson did very well in the qualifiers!
What would you consider a success for England in the world cup?
He's done alright. Speaks quite intelligently too. Not very exciting to watch but I'll take results over exciting failure.
If people want an English manager that's about the best we can do. Howe, Hughton and Dyche are better but no reason why they'd leave clubs where they're doing a great job for the poisoned chalice of the England job.
He is a nice Nigel
But is doing a good job so far. He phased out Rooney and brought through a decent amount of younger players.
When you look at the World Cup draw, I think success would be getting to the quarters and then not being humiliated by Germany or Brazil. If he does that then keep him for the Euro's unless a genuinely world class manager wants the England job
His a bit like David Moyes , a boring <surfer-> but gets results.
I think its a different approach and one we can't complain with as all others haven't worked.
He has worked with the youth set up for years and knows a lot of our current crop and thus far its a non argument criticizing him!
I struggle to care who manages the team as history tells us that as soon as a player pulls that England shirt on their head turns to mush. Sterling will be a prime example of this, what are the chances of him getting anywhere near his club form this summer?
The job is the biggest poison chalice in sport.
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I struggle to care who manages the team as history tells us that as soon as a player pulls that England shirt on their head turns to mush. Sterling will be a prime example of this, what are the chances of him getting anywhere near his club form this summer?
The job is the biggest poison chalice in sport.
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TBF he won't have a hand picked team playing beside him
As a lot have said he is doing a lot of the right things. Can he inspire good performances from the professional footballers of today though? He doesn't seem the type to me.
On paper England don't have a half bad team. It's a shame Wilshere hasn't kicked on for us over the years because if he'd developed properly there might be enough to get us a surprise result or two.
As an Irishman what has been refreshing to see is his approach to selecting players that are (i) playing football, (ii) at lower table sides (iii) are youthful (iv) are not the tried, tested and found wanting
To me, he strikes me as a coach who has done all the right things - got the badges, coached at different levels, read all theh books, studied other managers etc.
But IMO to be successful you need a little bit of the x-factor. Those who have done well for England were Sir Bobby and El Tel. Both excellent coaches but had a charisma about them that inspired the team and the fans, generating positivity and real belief (not just media generated).
Southgate probably shows real passion behind close doors but I have not seen that extra something that makes him stand out.
I always find the problem with England is that we don't back our own strengths and style. We have been successful when playing direct, robust football. These days Tiki Taka is all the rage, and were suprised that we are not as good at it as the French, Spanish or Brazilians.
The Italians don't change their style, they keep to cantenaccio, and win things.
The very defensive Portuguese just won the Euro's despite not winning a single group game (in a group of Iceland, Hungary, Austria), and only winning 1 match inside 90 mins (the semi against the tired Welsh team).
We need to get back to our strengths, and to hell with style, it's only 4 weeks every 2 years we don't have to be entertaining
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comment by Giröulski Alt-153 and Alt-160 forever (U14971)
posted 2 minutes ago
On paper England don't have a half bad team. It's a shame Wilshere hasn't kicked on for us over the years because if he'd developed properly there might be enough to get us a surprise result or two.
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England's midfield and attacking options are woeful. I can make a side that didn't make the 1998 World Cup Squad that would beat any current England side put together.
-------------------Ian Walker-------------------
Dixon------Carragher------Wes Brown------P Neville
-----------Redknapp---------Butt--------------------
Gascoigne-----------------------Le Tissier-----
-------------A Cole------Fowler-------------------
I hardly judge England managers until the tournament begins. Most of them do well in the qualifiers making people think we're on the right track, then the tournament starts and we fall to pieces. For Southgate the real job starts in June...... and probably ends in June as well.
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comment by Giröulski Alt-153 and Alt-160 forever (U14971)
posted 2 minutes ago
On paper England don't have a half bad team. It's a shame Wilshere hasn't kicked on for us over the years because if he'd developed properly there might be enough to get us a surprise result or two.
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England's midfield and attacking options are woeful. I can make a side that didn't make the 1998 World Cup Squad that would beat any current England side put together.
-------------------Ian Walker-------------------
Dixon------Carragher------Wes Brown------P Neville
-----------Redknapp---------Butt--------------------
Gascoigne-----------------------Le Tissier-----
-------------A Cole------Fowler-------------------
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Ian Walker was pants, remember that goal he conceded against Italy.
Phil Neville was never cut out for that level, as he proved 2 years later.
Gazza was long past his best at this point, and A Cole was useless for England/ didn't suit England's set up.
On Paper
Pickford
Walker Smalling Cahill Rose
Wilshere Henderson/Dier
Sterling Alli Lingaard
Kane
Is a better team. There is also quality on the bench, Butland, Clyne, Bertrand, Maguire, Dier/Henderson, Rashford, Vardy.
That team, managed well, should make the quarters before bowing out to Germany/Brazil.
Hoddle is a better manager than Southgate though
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posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Giröulski Alt-153 and Alt-160 forever (U14971)
posted 2 minutes ago
On paper England don't have a half bad team. It's a shame Wilshere hasn't kicked on for us over the years because if he'd developed properly there might be enough to get us a surprise result or two.
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England's midfield and attacking options are woeful. I can make a side that didn't make the 1998 World Cup Squad that would beat any current England side put together.
-------------------Ian Walker-------------------
Dixon------Carragher------Wes Brown------P Neville
-----------Redknapp---------Butt--------------------
Gascoigne-----------------------Le Tissier-----
-------------A Cole------Fowler-------------------
--------------------------------------------------------------------
No chance, good strikers that team, one good CB and a decent left back.
Wes Brown
Gazza was completely finished by 98.
Le Tissier had no mobility.
Redknapp and Butt no better than the CM options now.
Phil Neville couldn't lace Walker's boots.
The current side would wipe the floor with that line up.
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comment by RonaldVilliers (U21490)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Benched (U7195)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Giröulski Alt-153 and Alt-160 forever (U14971)
posted 2 minutes ago
On paper England don't have a half bad team. It's a shame Wilshere hasn't kicked on for us over the years because if he'd developed properly there might be enough to get us a surprise result or two.
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England's midfield and attacking options are woeful. I can make a side that didn't make the 1998 World Cup Squad that would beat any current England side put together.
-------------------Ian Walker-------------------
Dixon------Carragher------Wes Brown------P Neville
-----------Redknapp---------Butt--------------------
Gascoigne-----------------------Le Tissier-----
-------------A Cole------Fowler-------------------
--------------------------------------------------------------------
No chance, good strikers that team, one good CB and a decent left back.
Wes Brown
Gazza was completely finished by 98.
Le Tissier had no mobility.
Redknapp and Butt no better than the CM options now.
Phil Neville couldn't lace Walker's boots.
The current side would wipe the floor with that line up.
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Agree with all of that except Nicky Butt, who was immense for England four years later in Japan/Korea. If I remember rightly he made FIFAs team of the tournament.
It's a shame England never used Le Tiss at his peak, would love a modern day equivalent now
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posted on 9/5/18
Dinghy lipped plank who cost England cos he can't take a pen
Then had the audacity to laugh about it while making money off Pizza Hut
posted on 9/5/18
Another bland total yes man.
posted on 9/5/18
Doesn't inspire me in the least, although I do like a lot of what he is doing.
But we needn't really worry. We will flop in the summer and he will get the boot. Then Wenger will fill his boots.
posted on 9/5/18
cannot stand the sight of him
posted on 9/5/18
Doiong a good job this far. Don't care if he comes across as dull provided we get to the waurter finals and don't embarass ourselves against Panama.
posted on 9/5/18
I never liked the appointment but I cannot fault him so far.
Although I can see why people say he can come across as boring I actually think he is quite interesting in interviews and makes sense when he speaks.
No matter what he does now he will be judged on how well England do in the world cup. So far so good but then Hodgson did very well in the qualifiers!
What would you consider a success for England in the world cup?
posted on 9/5/18
He's done alright. Speaks quite intelligently too. Not very exciting to watch but I'll take results over exciting failure.
If people want an English manager that's about the best we can do. Howe, Hughton and Dyche are better but no reason why they'd leave clubs where they're doing a great job for the poisoned chalice of the England job.
posted on 9/5/18
He is a nice Nigel
But is doing a good job so far. He phased out Rooney and brought through a decent amount of younger players.
When you look at the World Cup draw, I think success would be getting to the quarters and then not being humiliated by Germany or Brazil. If he does that then keep him for the Euro's unless a genuinely world class manager wants the England job
posted on 9/5/18
His a bit like David Moyes , a boring <surfer-> but gets results.
posted on 9/5/18
I think its a different approach and one we can't complain with as all others haven't worked.
He has worked with the youth set up for years and knows a lot of our current crop and thus far its a non argument criticizing him!
posted on 9/5/18
I struggle to care who manages the team as history tells us that as soon as a player pulls that England shirt on their head turns to mush. Sterling will be a prime example of this, what are the chances of him getting anywhere near his club form this summer?
The job is the biggest poison chalice in sport.
posted on 9/5/18
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 49 seconds ago
I struggle to care who manages the team as history tells us that as soon as a player pulls that England shirt on their head turns to mush. Sterling will be a prime example of this, what are the chances of him getting anywhere near his club form this summer?
The job is the biggest poison chalice in sport.
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TBF he won't have a hand picked team playing beside him
posted on 9/5/18
As a lot have said he is doing a lot of the right things. Can he inspire good performances from the professional footballers of today though? He doesn't seem the type to me.
posted on 9/5/18
On paper England don't have a half bad team. It's a shame Wilshere hasn't kicked on for us over the years because if he'd developed properly there might be enough to get us a surprise result or two.
posted on 9/5/18
As an Irishman what has been refreshing to see is his approach to selecting players that are (i) playing football, (ii) at lower table sides (iii) are youthful (iv) are not the tried, tested and found wanting
posted on 9/5/18
To me, he strikes me as a coach who has done all the right things - got the badges, coached at different levels, read all theh books, studied other managers etc.
But IMO to be successful you need a little bit of the x-factor. Those who have done well for England were Sir Bobby and El Tel. Both excellent coaches but had a charisma about them that inspired the team and the fans, generating positivity and real belief (not just media generated).
Southgate probably shows real passion behind close doors but I have not seen that extra something that makes him stand out.
posted on 9/5/18
I always find the problem with England is that we don't back our own strengths and style. We have been successful when playing direct, robust football. These days Tiki Taka is all the rage, and were suprised that we are not as good at it as the French, Spanish or Brazilians.
The Italians don't change their style, they keep to cantenaccio, and win things.
The very defensive Portuguese just won the Euro's despite not winning a single group game (in a group of Iceland, Hungary, Austria), and only winning 1 match inside 90 mins (the semi against the tired Welsh team).
We need to get back to our strengths, and to hell with style, it's only 4 weeks every 2 years we don't have to be entertaining
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posted on 9/5/18
England are due a semi.
posted on 9/5/18
comment by Giröulski Alt-153 and Alt-160 forever (U14971)
posted 2 minutes ago
On paper England don't have a half bad team. It's a shame Wilshere hasn't kicked on for us over the years because if he'd developed properly there might be enough to get us a surprise result or two.
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England's midfield and attacking options are woeful. I can make a side that didn't make the 1998 World Cup Squad that would beat any current England side put together.
-------------------Ian Walker-------------------
Dixon------Carragher------Wes Brown------P Neville
-----------Redknapp---------Butt--------------------
Gascoigne-----------------------Le Tissier-----
-------------A Cole------Fowler-------------------
posted on 9/5/18
I hardly judge England managers until the tournament begins. Most of them do well in the qualifiers making people think we're on the right track, then the tournament starts and we fall to pieces. For Southgate the real job starts in June...... and probably ends in June as well.
posted on 9/5/18
comment by Benched (U7195)
posted 23 seconds ago
comment by Giröulski Alt-153 and Alt-160 forever (U14971)
posted 2 minutes ago
On paper England don't have a half bad team. It's a shame Wilshere hasn't kicked on for us over the years because if he'd developed properly there might be enough to get us a surprise result or two.
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England's midfield and attacking options are woeful. I can make a side that didn't make the 1998 World Cup Squad that would beat any current England side put together.
-------------------Ian Walker-------------------
Dixon------Carragher------Wes Brown------P Neville
-----------Redknapp---------Butt--------------------
Gascoigne-----------------------Le Tissier-----
-------------A Cole------Fowler-------------------
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Ian Walker was pants, remember that goal he conceded against Italy.
Phil Neville was never cut out for that level, as he proved 2 years later.
Gazza was long past his best at this point, and A Cole was useless for England/ didn't suit England's set up.
On Paper
Pickford
Walker Smalling Cahill Rose
Wilshere Henderson/Dier
Sterling Alli Lingaard
Kane
Is a better team. There is also quality on the bench, Butland, Clyne, Bertrand, Maguire, Dier/Henderson, Rashford, Vardy.
That team, managed well, should make the quarters before bowing out to Germany/Brazil.
Hoddle is a better manager than Southgate though
posted on 9/5/18
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posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Giröulski Alt-153 and Alt-160 forever (U14971)
posted 2 minutes ago
On paper England don't have a half bad team. It's a shame Wilshere hasn't kicked on for us over the years because if he'd developed properly there might be enough to get us a surprise result or two.
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England's midfield and attacking options are woeful. I can make a side that didn't make the 1998 World Cup Squad that would beat any current England side put together.
-------------------Ian Walker-------------------
Dixon------Carragher------Wes Brown------P Neville
-----------Redknapp---------Butt--------------------
Gascoigne-----------------------Le Tissier-----
-------------A Cole------Fowler-------------------
--------------------------------------------------------------------
No chance, good strikers that team, one good CB and a decent left back.
Wes Brown
Gazza was completely finished by 98.
Le Tissier had no mobility.
Redknapp and Butt no better than the CM options now.
Phil Neville couldn't lace Walker's boots.
The current side would wipe the floor with that line up.
posted on 9/5/18
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comment by RonaldVilliers (U21490)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Benched (U7195)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Giröulski Alt-153 and Alt-160 forever (U14971)
posted 2 minutes ago
On paper England don't have a half bad team. It's a shame Wilshere hasn't kicked on for us over the years because if he'd developed properly there might be enough to get us a surprise result or two.
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England's midfield and attacking options are woeful. I can make a side that didn't make the 1998 World Cup Squad that would beat any current England side put together.
-------------------Ian Walker-------------------
Dixon------Carragher------Wes Brown------P Neville
-----------Redknapp---------Butt--------------------
Gascoigne-----------------------Le Tissier-----
-------------A Cole------Fowler-------------------
--------------------------------------------------------------------
No chance, good strikers that team, one good CB and a decent left back.
Wes Brown
Gazza was completely finished by 98.
Le Tissier had no mobility.
Redknapp and Butt no better than the CM options now.
Phil Neville couldn't lace Walker's boots.
The current side would wipe the floor with that line up.
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Agree with all of that except Nicky Butt, who was immense for England four years later in Japan/Korea. If I remember rightly he made FIFAs team of the tournament.
It's a shame England never used Le Tiss at his peak, would love a modern day equivalent now
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