Messi absolutely anonymous tonight, so much quality up front and they cannot create anything.
He's always anonymous away from Barca
I am going to get in here before the United fans start slating Messi. I'm sorry, but his record is every bit as good - if not better than Ronaldo's. I like Ronaldo but he is the master of his own hype.
Also, he "won" a dodgy penalty against Spain. His free kick was class although probably shouldn't have been a foul. His header yesterday would have been scored by my dead 128 year old 4ft8 Greek grandmother.
We all know he's a great player but it doesn't mean Messi isn't. I personally prefer Messi but each to his own.
While I think Messi is technically a better player Ronaldo LOVES being the go-to man for Portugal, he revels in it in same way Zlatan did for Sweden. Messi doesn’t seem to have that mentality, ego, whatever.
This Argentina side are awful. Not a lot Messi can do about that on his own. They’re too heavy. Amazing strike force with nothing to back them up and supply them. Defending is comical at times.
comment by BruceAndPally (U8201)
posted 1 minute ago
While I think Messi is technically a better player Ronaldo LOVES being the go-to man for Portugal, he revels in it in same way Zlatan did for Sweden. Messi doesn’t seem to have that mentality, ego, whatever.
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I think that is nicely put.
Doesn't help they have a keeper almost as dodgy as the Spanish one.
Not sure the Almighty himself could help this argie crop team
comment by Eric_Draven (U20260)
posted 6 minutes ago
I am going to get in here before the United fans start slating Messi. I'm sorry, but his record is every bit as good - if not better than Ronaldo's. I like Ronaldo but he is the master of his own hype.
Also, he "won" a dodgy penalty against Spain. His free kick was class although probably shouldn't have been a foul. His header yesterday would have been scored by my dead 128 year old 4ft8 Greek grandmother.
We all know he's a great player but it doesn't mean Messi isn't. I personally prefer Messi but each to his own.
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And if Ronaldo had played for Chelsea you'd think the opposite most likely. Come back when you have received something valuable to add.
comment by Eric_the_king (SE85) (U21241)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Eric_Draven (U20260)
posted 6 minutes ago
I am going to get in here before the United fans start slating Messi. I'm sorry, but his record is every bit as good - if not better than Ronaldo's. I like Ronaldo but he is the master of his own hype.
Also, he "won" a dodgy penalty against Spain. His free kick was class although probably shouldn't have been a foul. His header yesterday would have been scored by my dead 128 year old 4ft8 Greek grandmother.
We all know he's a great player but it doesn't mean Messi isn't. I personally prefer Messi but each to his own.
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And if Ronaldo had played for Chelsea you'd think the opposite most likely. Come back when you have received something valuable to add.
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I don't think I would. At no point am I saying he's a bad player - second best player in the world in my opinion.
Don’t get the Messi slating or Ronaldo slating. We’re very lucky to be watching two of the best to ply the game. They’ve pretty much set the bar for consistency for the majority of their careers.
It’s hard to choose between them, Ronaldo is better in the air and penalties, Messi is better with the back at his feet, passing and free kicks. But overall there output is very similar. Goals goals and more goals
To be fair to messi he hasn’t been helped by that awful defence and midfield and the Croats have defended deep and in number.
comment by Eric_Draven (U20260)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Eric_the_king (SE85) (U21241)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Eric_Draven (U20260)
posted 6 minutes ago
I am going to get in here before the United fans start slating Messi. I'm sorry, but his record is every bit as good - if not better than Ronaldo's. I like Ronaldo but he is the master of his own hype.
Also, he "won" a dodgy penalty against Spain. His free kick was class although probably shouldn't have been a foul. His header yesterday would have been scored by my dead 128 year old 4ft8 Greek grandmother.
We all know he's a great player but it doesn't mean Messi isn't. I personally prefer Messi but each to his own.
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And if Ronaldo had played for Chelsea you'd think the opposite most likely. Come back when you have received something valuable to add.
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I don't think I would. At no point am I saying he's a bad player - second best player in the world in my opinion.
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I actually think if you could hand pick the side then it would be Messi for me too. However Ronaldo is far more versatile and could almost play for any team.
Portugal play to ronaldos strengths. Sit back and counter leaving Ronaldo space. Argentina play slow turgid football facing 10 men behind the ball.
He can’t bail them out every time. Feel sorry for him.
comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 49 seconds ago
Portugal play to ronaldos strengths. Sit back and counter leaving Ronaldo space. Argentina play slow turgid football facing 10 men behind the ball.
He can’t bail them out every time. Feel sorry for him.
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Exactly.
Plus you have to give Croatia plaudits for defending. England would have had trouble in that group.
Any chance Messi decides to throw another fit and decide to retire, if Argentina do not go through?
Not sure the Almighty himself could help this argie crop team
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Other than Ronaldo and messi the other players are matched pretty evenly but argies probably have a bit more additional firepower, one is carrying his team all by himself, I think messi has given up with his lot, he did it 4years ago for the most part but now he looks like he can’t be asked
Yeah but just in general. Argentina have too many egos and players wanting to win it themselves and think they are better than they are. Ronaldo has a good supporting cast even if they are not world class.
Croatia have been fantastic too
Ronaldo would be more productive than Messi in every top club side bar two. Barca obviously one and probably City as well.
I don't think he's close to his genius self when he's out of the the tippy tappy environment.
I once heard this or words to that effect:
If I wanted someone whose play uplifts the soul: Messi.
If I wanted someone to play for my life: CR.
Both a different level to anyone else.
Don’t get the Messi slating or Ronaldo slating. We’re very lucky to be watching two of the best to ply the game.
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Aye, it’s a bit “Blur v Oasis”, just enjoy both, Messi and Ronaldo, Roll With It and Country House, it’s all good...
Maybe I’m just getting old, maybe it’s the cult of celebrity we live in but I don’t this supporting a player as if they were their own club. People talk about Messi and Ronaldo like it’s them they support rather than the clubs they play for, weird.
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posted on 21/6/18
What a finish that is.
posted on 21/6/18
Messi absolutely anonymous tonight, so much quality up front and they cannot create anything.
posted on 21/6/18
He's always anonymous away from Barca
posted on 21/6/18
You do make me laugh
posted on 21/6/18
I am going to get in here before the United fans start slating Messi. I'm sorry, but his record is every bit as good - if not better than Ronaldo's. I like Ronaldo but he is the master of his own hype.
Also, he "won" a dodgy penalty against Spain. His free kick was class although probably shouldn't have been a foul. His header yesterday would have been scored by my dead 128 year old 4ft8 Greek grandmother.
We all know he's a great player but it doesn't mean Messi isn't. I personally prefer Messi but each to his own.
posted on 21/6/18
While I think Messi is technically a better player Ronaldo LOVES being the go-to man for Portugal, he revels in it in same way Zlatan did for Sweden. Messi doesn’t seem to have that mentality, ego, whatever.
posted on 21/6/18
This Argentina side are awful. Not a lot Messi can do about that on his own. They’re too heavy. Amazing strike force with nothing to back them up and supply them. Defending is comical at times.
posted on 21/6/18
comment by BruceAndPally (U8201)
posted 1 minute ago
While I think Messi is technically a better player Ronaldo LOVES being the go-to man for Portugal, he revels in it in same way Zlatan did for Sweden. Messi doesn’t seem to have that mentality, ego, whatever.
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I think that is nicely put.
posted on 21/6/18
*top heavy!
posted on 21/6/18
Doesn't help they have a keeper almost as dodgy as the Spanish one.
posted on 21/6/18
Not sure the Almighty himself could help this argie crop team
posted on 21/6/18
comment by Eric_Draven (U20260)
posted 6 minutes ago
I am going to get in here before the United fans start slating Messi. I'm sorry, but his record is every bit as good - if not better than Ronaldo's. I like Ronaldo but he is the master of his own hype.
Also, he "won" a dodgy penalty against Spain. His free kick was class although probably shouldn't have been a foul. His header yesterday would have been scored by my dead 128 year old 4ft8 Greek grandmother.
We all know he's a great player but it doesn't mean Messi isn't. I personally prefer Messi but each to his own.
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And if Ronaldo had played for Chelsea you'd think the opposite most likely. Come back when you have received something valuable to add.
posted on 21/6/18
comment by Eric_the_king (SE85) (U21241)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Eric_Draven (U20260)
posted 6 minutes ago
I am going to get in here before the United fans start slating Messi. I'm sorry, but his record is every bit as good - if not better than Ronaldo's. I like Ronaldo but he is the master of his own hype.
Also, he "won" a dodgy penalty against Spain. His free kick was class although probably shouldn't have been a foul. His header yesterday would have been scored by my dead 128 year old 4ft8 Greek grandmother.
We all know he's a great player but it doesn't mean Messi isn't. I personally prefer Messi but each to his own.
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And if Ronaldo had played for Chelsea you'd think the opposite most likely. Come back when you have received something valuable to add.
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I don't think I would. At no point am I saying he's a bad player - second best player in the world in my opinion.
posted on 21/6/18
Don’t get the Messi slating or Ronaldo slating. We’re very lucky to be watching two of the best to ply the game. They’ve pretty much set the bar for consistency for the majority of their careers.
It’s hard to choose between them, Ronaldo is better in the air and penalties, Messi is better with the back at his feet, passing and free kicks. But overall there output is very similar. Goals goals and more goals
posted on 21/6/18
To be fair to messi he hasn’t been helped by that awful defence and midfield and the Croats have defended deep and in number.
posted on 21/6/18
comment by Eric_Draven (U20260)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Eric_the_king (SE85) (U21241)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Eric_Draven (U20260)
posted 6 minutes ago
I am going to get in here before the United fans start slating Messi. I'm sorry, but his record is every bit as good - if not better than Ronaldo's. I like Ronaldo but he is the master of his own hype.
Also, he "won" a dodgy penalty against Spain. His free kick was class although probably shouldn't have been a foul. His header yesterday would have been scored by my dead 128 year old 4ft8 Greek grandmother.
We all know he's a great player but it doesn't mean Messi isn't. I personally prefer Messi but each to his own.
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And if Ronaldo had played for Chelsea you'd think the opposite most likely. Come back when you have received something valuable to add.
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I don't think I would. At no point am I saying he's a bad player - second best player in the world in my opinion.
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I actually think if you could hand pick the side then it would be Messi for me too. However Ronaldo is far more versatile and could almost play for any team.
posted on 21/6/18
Portugal play to ronaldos strengths. Sit back and counter leaving Ronaldo space. Argentina play slow turgid football facing 10 men behind the ball.
He can’t bail them out every time. Feel sorry for him.
posted on 21/6/18
comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 49 seconds ago
Portugal play to ronaldos strengths. Sit back and counter leaving Ronaldo space. Argentina play slow turgid football facing 10 men behind the ball.
He can’t bail them out every time. Feel sorry for him.
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Exactly.
posted on 21/6/18
Plus you have to give Croatia plaudits for defending. England would have had trouble in that group.
posted on 21/6/18
Any chance Messi decides to throw another fit and decide to retire, if Argentina do not go through?
posted on 21/6/18
Not sure the Almighty himself could help this argie crop team
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Other than Ronaldo and messi the other players are matched pretty evenly but argies probably have a bit more additional firepower, one is carrying his team all by himself, I think messi has given up with his lot, he did it 4years ago for the most part but now he looks like he can’t be asked
posted on 21/6/18
Yeah but just in general. Argentina have too many egos and players wanting to win it themselves and think they are better than they are. Ronaldo has a good supporting cast even if they are not world class.
Croatia have been fantastic too
posted on 21/6/18
Ronaldo would be more productive than Messi in every top club side bar two. Barca obviously one and probably City as well.
I don't think he's close to his genius self when he's out of the the tippy tappy environment.
posted on 21/6/18
I once heard this or words to that effect:
If I wanted someone whose play uplifts the soul: Messi.
If I wanted someone to play for my life: CR.
Both a different level to anyone else.
posted on 21/6/18
Don’t get the Messi slating or Ronaldo slating. We’re very lucky to be watching two of the best to ply the game.
…………………
Aye, it’s a bit “Blur v Oasis”, just enjoy both, Messi and Ronaldo, Roll With It and Country House, it’s all good...
Maybe I’m just getting old, maybe it’s the cult of celebrity we live in but I don’t this supporting a player as if they were their own club. People talk about Messi and Ronaldo like it’s them they support rather than the clubs they play for, weird.
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