Tevez wasn't better, though he did say harder. Berba could do things Tevez couldn't.
comment by manutd1982 (U6633)
posted 1 hour, 5 minutes ago
He didn't take us onto another level and you could argue Tevez (who he ultimately replaced) was better but he was a joy to watch at times and it's moments like the Ronaldo assist that you wanna savour. So for that he wasn't a poor signing, just not one who made us better.
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Nah, he was a poor signing.
OP sums it up pretty well. He was our record signing at the time but ended up making us worse, and was one of the reasons we lost a better player in Tevez.
Aside from the Liverpool hat-trick (which was brilliant) he bottled it in pretty much all of our big games and when we needed him most. His failure to step up when Rooney got injured in 09/10 ultimately helped cost us a league title.
And Fergie recognised it too. Left out of 2 CL finals. And in our biggest game of the 09/10 season at home to Bayern he opted for a 30% fit (if that) Rooney. 2 seasons later he was our 4th choice striker.
Yeah, wonderfully gifted player and capable of turning it on against the lesser sides. But taking all of the above into account I don't see how he was anything other than a poor signing.
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posted 12 minutes ago
comment by manutd1982 (U6633)
posted 1 hour, 5 minutes ago
He didn't take us onto another level and you could argue Tevez (who he ultimately replaced) was better but he was a joy to watch at times and it's moments like the Ronaldo assist that you wanna savour. So for that he wasn't a poor signing, just not one who made us better.
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Nah, he was a poor signing.
OP sums it up pretty well. He was our record signing at the time but ended up making us worse, and was one of the reasons we lost a better player in Tevez.
Aside from the Liverpool hat-trick (which was brilliant) he bottled it in pretty much all of our big games and when we needed him most. His failure to step up when Rooney got injured in 09/10 ultimately helped cost us a league title.
And Fergie recognised it too. Left out of 2 CL finals. And in our biggest game of the 09/10 season at home to Bayern he opted for a 30% fit (if that) Rooney. 2 seasons later he was our 4th choice striker.
Yeah, wonderfully gifted player and capable of turning it on against the lesser sides. But taking all of the above into account I don't see how he was anything other than a poor signing.
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This
he's still floating around looking for a team.
I go to OT to see amazing footballers and to be excited.
Berba always provided that, I don't buy into the whole he was too lazy etc, he was an incredible player, best first touch I have ever seen on a footballer in fact. Maybe we got him when he was coming towards the end of his peak which distorted people's views. Technically, him and RVP are the best strikers I've seen in a united shirt, and I've seen a few.
In today's market he'd be a £70-90m player. And that says it all really.
He'd walk into our current 11 imo! Emphasis on "walk"
In terms of who was a better player for man utd, its not even close, it was tevez.
comment by Manc Python (U17527)
posted 9 hours, 57 minutes ago
comment by Boris 'Inky' Gibson (U5901)
posted 10 minutes ago
Tevez was better than Berba though
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Yeah nice one. Doesn't change the fact you paid more for Robinho and he was much worse
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Which has nothing to do with tevez being better than berb does it.
Idiot.
comment by LQ (U6305)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Manc Python (U17527)
posted 9 hours, 57 minutes ago
comment by Boris 'Inky' Gibson (U5901)
posted 10 minutes ago
Tevez was better than Berba though
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Yeah nice one. Doesn't change the fact you paid more for Robinho and he was much worse
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Which has nothing to do with tevez being better than berb does it.
Idiot.
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I was talking about the time when Berba and Robinho were both bough you utter feckwit
Your stupid Bertie mate then brought tevez into it. A man who after a while lets be fair didn't even want to be at your club
Plenty of people saying tevez was better too stockport 👍
You should have signed him up like the chants said.
Tevez also didn’t want to be at united but let’s ignore that.
comment by LQ (U6305)
posted 1 minute ago
Tevez also didn’t want to be at united but let’s ignore that.
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Only because he wasn't getting game time. And I agree he was better than Berbatov however his final season for us was poor
Finally a civil answer.
See you can do it.
Tevez at his peak was a more effective player than Berbatov, partly because he was more suited contemporary PL football. But he was never half the footballer that Berbatov was.
I'd rather watch Berba play every day of the week and twice on Sunday than any given Tevez highlights reel. Berba was a real artist.
comment by Manc Python (U17527)
posted 36 minutes ago
comment by LQ (U6305)
posted 1 minute ago
Tevez also didn’t want to be at united but let’s ignore that.
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Only because he wasn't getting game time. And I agree he was better than Berbatov however his final season for us was poor
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Maybe if you didn't come on our board 24/7 and wum you would get more civil answers
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comment by Dave NotSo (U11711)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Manc Python (U17527)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Manc Python (U17527)
posted 36 minutes ago
comment by LQ (U6305)
posted 1 minute ago
Tevez also didn’t want to be at united but let’s ignore that.
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Only because he wasn't getting game time. And I agree he was better than Berbatov however his final season for us was poor
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Maybe if you didn't come on our board 24/7 and wum you would get more civil answers
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Manc, it's about time you've admitted you wum the United board 24/7.
Don't worry we love you still.
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Eh? What you on about?
comment by Manc Python (U17527)
posted 14 minutes ago
comment by Manc Python (U17527)
posted 36 minutes ago
comment by LQ (U6305)
posted 1 minute ago
Tevez also didn’t want to be at united but let’s ignore that.
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Only because he wasn't getting game time. And I agree he was better than Berbatov however his final season for us was poor
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Maybe if you didn't come on our board 24/7 and wum you would get more civil answers
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You really think I’m on your board “yours 😂” 24/7
No I’m not and admin can tell you my posting history, I rarely even post in the evenings and at night only really during the day.
Stop being such a drama queen.
Your board ffs it’s a sports website.
Lost, the fact City once had an interest in Berbatov gives you absolutely no right to comment on a public forum.
comment by LQ (U6305)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by Manc Python (U17527)
posted 14 minutes ago
comment by Manc Python (U17527)
posted 36 minutes ago
comment by LQ (U6305)
posted 1 minute ago
Tevez also didn’t want to be at united but let’s ignore that.
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Only because he wasn't getting game time. And I agree he was better than Berbatov however his final season for us was poor
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Maybe if you didn't come on our board 24/7 and wum you would get more civil answers
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You really think I’m on your board “yours 😂” 24/7
No I’m not and admin can tell you my posting history, I rarely even post in the evenings and at night only really during the day.
Stop being such a drama queen.
Your board ffs it’s a sports website.
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You are even talking about us or on the United board more than you are your own team you absolute fister. Bit weird don't you think
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comment by Dave NotSo (U11711)
posted 5 minutes ago
Manc P, you replied to your own comment saying you were a wum 24/7.
Seemed funnier in my head...
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No I didn't. I was replying to LQ. aka the bitter bertie be!!end
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bloodred
Bit late on my reply but I don't see how that makes him a 'poor' signing. Poor means you're not very good and do nothing to help the team. Like I said, he may not have taken us up a notch but he was still a joy to watch at times which is what many fans want from a player. He still contributed significantly to us winning 2 titles (especially 10/11), that isn't the definition of a 'poor' signing IMO.
Also, Ferguson was having issues with Tevez which ultimately led to us getting Berbatov, so it wasn't really a case of had we not signed Berbatov then Tevez would have stayed and played well.
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posted on 11/9/18
Tevez wasn't better, though he did say harder. Berba could do things Tevez couldn't.
posted on 11/9/18
*work
posted on 11/9/18
comment by manutd1982 (U6633)
posted 1 hour, 5 minutes ago
He didn't take us onto another level and you could argue Tevez (who he ultimately replaced) was better but he was a joy to watch at times and it's moments like the Ronaldo assist that you wanna savour. So for that he wasn't a poor signing, just not one who made us better.
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Nah, he was a poor signing.
OP sums it up pretty well. He was our record signing at the time but ended up making us worse, and was one of the reasons we lost a better player in Tevez.
Aside from the Liverpool hat-trick (which was brilliant) he bottled it in pretty much all of our big games and when we needed him most. His failure to step up when Rooney got injured in 09/10 ultimately helped cost us a league title.
And Fergie recognised it too. Left out of 2 CL finals. And in our biggest game of the 09/10 season at home to Bayern he opted for a 30% fit (if that) Rooney. 2 seasons later he was our 4th choice striker.
Yeah, wonderfully gifted player and capable of turning it on against the lesser sides. But taking all of the above into account I don't see how he was anything other than a poor signing.
posted on 11/9/18
comment by -bloodred- (U1222)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by manutd1982 (U6633)
posted 1 hour, 5 minutes ago
He didn't take us onto another level and you could argue Tevez (who he ultimately replaced) was better but he was a joy to watch at times and it's moments like the Ronaldo assist that you wanna savour. So for that he wasn't a poor signing, just not one who made us better.
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Nah, he was a poor signing.
OP sums it up pretty well. He was our record signing at the time but ended up making us worse, and was one of the reasons we lost a better player in Tevez.
Aside from the Liverpool hat-trick (which was brilliant) he bottled it in pretty much all of our big games and when we needed him most. His failure to step up when Rooney got injured in 09/10 ultimately helped cost us a league title.
And Fergie recognised it too. Left out of 2 CL finals. And in our biggest game of the 09/10 season at home to Bayern he opted for a 30% fit (if that) Rooney. 2 seasons later he was our 4th choice striker.
Yeah, wonderfully gifted player and capable of turning it on against the lesser sides. But taking all of the above into account I don't see how he was anything other than a poor signing.
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posted on 11/9/18
he's still floating around looking for a team.
posted on 11/9/18
I go to OT to see amazing footballers and to be excited.
Berba always provided that, I don't buy into the whole he was too lazy etc, he was an incredible player, best first touch I have ever seen on a footballer in fact. Maybe we got him when he was coming towards the end of his peak which distorted people's views. Technically, him and RVP are the best strikers I've seen in a united shirt, and I've seen a few.
In today's market he'd be a £70-90m player. And that says it all really.
He'd walk into our current 11 imo! Emphasis on "walk"
posted on 11/9/18
In terms of who was a better player for man utd, its not even close, it was tevez.
posted on 12/9/18
comment by Manc Python (U17527)
posted 9 hours, 57 minutes ago
comment by Boris 'Inky' Gibson (U5901)
posted 10 minutes ago
Tevez was better than Berba though
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Yeah nice one. Doesn't change the fact you paid more for Robinho and he was much worse
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Which has nothing to do with tevez being better than berb does it.
Idiot.
posted on 12/9/18
comment by LQ (U6305)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Manc Python (U17527)
posted 9 hours, 57 minutes ago
comment by Boris 'Inky' Gibson (U5901)
posted 10 minutes ago
Tevez was better than Berba though
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Yeah nice one. Doesn't change the fact you paid more for Robinho and he was much worse
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Which has nothing to do with tevez being better than berb does it.
Idiot.
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I was talking about the time when Berba and Robinho were both bough you utter feckwit
Your stupid Bertie mate then brought tevez into it. A man who after a while lets be fair didn't even want to be at your club
posted on 12/9/18
Plenty of people saying tevez was better too stockport 👍
You should have signed him up like the chants said.
posted on 12/9/18
Tevez also didn’t want to be at united but let’s ignore that.
posted on 12/9/18
comment by LQ (U6305)
posted 1 minute ago
Tevez also didn’t want to be at united but let’s ignore that.
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Only because he wasn't getting game time. And I agree he was better than Berbatov however his final season for us was poor
posted on 12/9/18
Finally a civil answer.
See you can do it.
posted on 12/9/18
Tevez at his peak was a more effective player than Berbatov, partly because he was more suited contemporary PL football. But he was never half the footballer that Berbatov was.
I'd rather watch Berba play every day of the week and twice on Sunday than any given Tevez highlights reel. Berba was a real artist.
posted on 12/9/18
comment by Manc Python (U17527)
posted 36 minutes ago
comment by LQ (U6305)
posted 1 minute ago
Tevez also didn’t want to be at united but let’s ignore that.
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Only because he wasn't getting game time. And I agree he was better than Berbatov however his final season for us was poor
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Maybe if you didn't come on our board 24/7 and wum you would get more civil answers
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posted on 12/9/18
comment by Dave NotSo (U11711)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Manc Python (U17527)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Manc Python (U17527)
posted 36 minutes ago
comment by LQ (U6305)
posted 1 minute ago
Tevez also didn’t want to be at united but let’s ignore that.
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Only because he wasn't getting game time. And I agree he was better than Berbatov however his final season for us was poor
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Maybe if you didn't come on our board 24/7 and wum you would get more civil answers
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Manc, it's about time you've admitted you wum the United board 24/7.
Don't worry we love you still.
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Eh? What you on about?
posted on 12/9/18
comment by Manc Python (U17527)
posted 14 minutes ago
comment by Manc Python (U17527)
posted 36 minutes ago
comment by LQ (U6305)
posted 1 minute ago
Tevez also didn’t want to be at united but let’s ignore that.
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Only because he wasn't getting game time. And I agree he was better than Berbatov however his final season for us was poor
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Maybe if you didn't come on our board 24/7 and wum you would get more civil answers
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You really think I’m on your board “yours 😂” 24/7
No I’m not and admin can tell you my posting history, I rarely even post in the evenings and at night only really during the day.
Stop being such a drama queen.
Your board ffs it’s a sports website.
posted on 12/9/18
Lost, the fact City once had an interest in Berbatov gives you absolutely no right to comment on a public forum.
posted on 12/9/18
comment by LQ (U6305)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by Manc Python (U17527)
posted 14 minutes ago
comment by Manc Python (U17527)
posted 36 minutes ago
comment by LQ (U6305)
posted 1 minute ago
Tevez also didn’t want to be at united but let’s ignore that.
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Only because he wasn't getting game time. And I agree he was better than Berbatov however his final season for us was poor
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Maybe if you didn't come on our board 24/7 and wum you would get more civil answers
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You really think I’m on your board “yours 😂” 24/7
No I’m not and admin can tell you my posting history, I rarely even post in the evenings and at night only really during the day.
Stop being such a drama queen.
Your board ffs it’s a sports website.
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You are even talking about us or on the United board more than you are your own team you absolute fister. Bit weird don't you think
posted on 12/9/18
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posted on 12/9/18
comment by Dave NotSo (U11711)
posted 5 minutes ago
Manc P, you replied to your own comment saying you were a wum 24/7.
Seemed funnier in my head...
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No I didn't. I was replying to LQ. aka the bitter bertie be!!end
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posted on 12/9/18
bloodred
Bit late on my reply but I don't see how that makes him a 'poor' signing. Poor means you're not very good and do nothing to help the team. Like I said, he may not have taken us up a notch but he was still a joy to watch at times which is what many fans want from a player. He still contributed significantly to us winning 2 titles (especially 10/11), that isn't the definition of a 'poor' signing IMO.
Also, Ferguson was having issues with Tevez which ultimately led to us getting Berbatov, so it wasn't really a case of had we not signed Berbatov then Tevez would have stayed and played well.
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