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posted on 20/9/18


-he’s French you know. Some of the best painters in the world were French....I think Rolf Harris had French descendants you know...

<sigh> I don’t care.

You don’t like the French!?

No, I’m not saying tha-

Have you ever been to France?

Well no, I must admit I hav-

-hmmmm interesting. Have you ever eaten a snail?

Yuck!

AHA! You’re Frenchist!

No I’m not Frenchist. That’s not even a word! ...look this is ridiculous. I just want my house painted. That’s my main priority. I’ve been here and cared about this house my whole life pretty much. I’ve seen different painters and companies come and go, some have done a better job than others. But my main priority - Is. My. House. Look, I don’t care about what has happened...Forget about our sodding holidays. I know there are good painters at your company, but I am literally watching paint dry here and it definitely could be done better! I just want to move forwar-

-move forward?

Yes....

....and look to the future?

I guess....

Good to hear Sir! I knew you’d see it our way!

So....you agree that things need to be changed around a little?

Change? But we have brought in some young painters...and it’s about the plan and the future...if you build it, they will come.

Build what!? Are you quoting Field of Dreams?!?

I have no idea what you are talking about. Build it. The plan. The young players. The future and the visions. You know...

......

Sir?

......

Are you still there?

....just forget it.

Sir...sir....before you go-

Yes?

If we do make any changes that are successful it will have all been part of the plan and entirely down to Puel Painting and Decorating.

.....

Are you still there sir?

.....

Hello?

....I wish alopecia upon you.

<click>


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posted on 20/9/18

Hilarious you remind of my clients who design something i have designed is not right or the colour of a half finished wall does not work.
I would say as would the manager how can you judge it if its not completed

3/10 please try harder

posted on 20/9/18

comment by Nevsaysagoal2city (U5194)
posted 15 minutes ago
Hilarious you remind of my clients who design something i have designed is not right or the colour of a half finished wall does not work.
I would say as would the manager how can you judge it if its not completed

3/10 please try harder


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You may have produced the greatest analogy to be written in your opening sentence but I can’t make head nor tail of most of it!

But on that subject, and to quote a Greek philosopher who suggests that there maybe is no head or tail or up or down, there is no completion Nev; the only constant is change. There is before, after and now to judge things on.

However, you’ve already mentioned that you don’t care about formations or tactics that could provide immediate benefits, you are more allured by the future and just providing more time (why you think - giving Puel and his ethos more time/ making tactical changes now - have to be antonyms of each other is beyond me). But my spider senses are tingling and I’ve a feeling that by complete, you mean the point, irrelevant of longevity, where Puel eventually makes significant progress by sticking with something that clearly isn’t working to its full potential. Pretty sure Einstein rambled on about something to do with that so you are in very good company with him and Heraclitus.

posted on 20/9/18

Negativity vs. Nevativity

posted on 20/9/18

The Puel Paradox!

posted on 20/9/18

It is a problem, though. As in life, many things can look like a mess if they are to be judged on their current state rather than what they are to become.

You give the adage of Rolf Harris in your article. (I don't know whether that's an acceptable adage these days but I'll go with it...) He had a catchphrase of "Can you tell what it is yet?" The pro-Puel argument is essentially the same thing. A masterpiece is being painted but it's only half-complete. The problem is, to us mere mortals, how can you tell whether it's genuinely a masterpiece or a lunatic splashing around? Or anywhere in between?

That's why I'd want to know what exactly we're aiming for, how far along the track we are, whether Puel thinks we're on schedule and where he can be assisted along the way. At the moment there's a load of paint splashed on a canvas and no, I can't really tell what it is yet.

Nev, you speak like you can see what it is yet; can you tell us the style that we're going to be playing in, who we're going to be emulating and how it can work against the high press without exceptional players? Because how else are we supposed to judge a transition period that could be indefinite.

posted on 20/9/18

Ktf brilliant
Reads like a python sketch,,,,

I've read it,i still don't understand it,
🤔🙄

posted on 20/9/18

Completely agree Dunge in terms of being abstract about the long term plan and I think that is the main confuddlement and simultaneously, the main reason we, I think the owners included too, are persevering on the whole.

Yet, there is the imediate affect as well. Unlike a piece of art that can be added to and created over time, which can sit and wait patiently without repurcussions or like a bottle of fine wine that actually gets better if it’s just left alone for a substantial amount of time, there is a short term plan that must be in place - even if it is one that is to plug the leaks whilst the ship sales to an altogether different destination.

And this is the main concern for me. Even if there is this master plan that is an upper echelon beyond my level of thinking, there is also the stark reality that the immediate and first port of call for Puel’s ship: avoid relegation and/or avoid the sack. Of course, if we look at just ‘this season’ - Nev, you, me, mostly everyone I imagine is right when they say just on game time and results, it’s too early to judge. Yet, I find myself so frusfrated, because irrelevant of the long term voyage, there seem to be other less choppy navigations to follow in the meantime which not only wouldn’t steer us off course but may, through minor deviation, ironically out the wind in our sales towards what Puel wants.


Ps Nev, don’t be offended, I am only being light hearted. Whilst we debate in different ways and have different views I don’t mean to come across like I’m putting you down my fellow fox

posted on 20/9/18

Not offended but i will still go with the painted wall or one of my half finished designs. we are five games into a Puel team playing the Puel way if we are still getting four put past after ten games then there is a case for getting a new painter in,but it think Puel will get this season to paint the wall

posted on 20/9/18

Well, the next 5 fixtures are relatively favourable. Arsenal away is standout tough; the others there are opportunities to get points from. That then makes 10 league games.

14 points+ after that would (hopefully) be signs of progress.
11-13 would leave a question mark.
10 points- and I think it'll be hard for him to keep his position.

posted on 20/9/18

I never thought I would find such great appreciation in the comparison of Claude Puel to Rolf Harris.

Great post KTF - a lot of effort went in to that. I hope that whoever manages the painting, we end up with a beautiful Monet, rather than the Picasso of a football team I’m currently watching!

Eh, that doesn’t make sense. Ahh well.

posted on 20/9/18

KTF - what about the painter who's still on the books, lightning fast and highly effective at coverage but isn't doing anything because the rest of the painters can't manage to give him a brush? Surely your house would get painted if he was used properly; you know, like the way he painted a house a couple of years ago - that was a work of art!

posted on 20/9/18

comment by nuneaton_fox (U7936)
posted 1 hour, 45 minutes ago
KTF - what about the painter who's still on the books, lightning fast and highly effective at coverage but isn't doing anything because the rest of the painters can't manage to give him a brush? Surely your house would get painted if he was used properly; you know, like the way he painted a house a couple of years ago - that was a work of art!


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Good metaphor, well made.

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