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comment by Elvis (U7425)

posted on 14/10/18

comment by Nobbbbbbbb (U21234)
posted 1 hour, 5 minutes ago

Lukaku is a very very good striker but suffers from a complete lack of service at united

With players like Hazard and KDB he scores for fun for Belgium

If we had the likes of Giggs, Scholes and Beckham delivering balls for him he’d be scoring huge amounts of goals per season for us.
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I agree with this to some extent. He isn't a great striker for me, but we certainly don't help him. We need some players that can cross.

Lukaku only had 86 shots last season in the PL. In contrast Kane had 184 shots. Now some of that might be down to him not being as mobile as he could be, but mainly it is down to lack of service. Lukaku actually had a better conversion rate than Kane and would have scored 34 goals in the PL last season had he had the same number of shots (based on his conversion rate).

posted on 14/10/18

comment by Under The Bridge (U21614)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Nobbbbbbbb (U21234)
posted 1 hour, 56 minutes ago
Lukaku is a very very good striker but suffers from a complete lack of service at united

With players like Hazard and KDB he scores for fun for Belgium

If we had the likes of Giggs, Scholes and Beckham delivering balls for him he’d be scoring huge amounts of goals per season for us.
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That's a moot point because Fergie wouldn't have signed him in the first place.
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I think he would have. Lukaku at Everton was one of the best strikers in the league. I think SAF would have preferred Kane but with him being unsellable SAF May well have gone for Lukaku. Fits his signing profile

comment by Elvis (U7425)

posted on 14/10/18

comment by Nobbbbbbbb (U21234)
posted 35 minutes ago

comment by -bloodred- (U1222)
posted 24 minutes ago
comment by Manc Python (U17527)
posted 18 minutes ago
comment by Nobbbbbbbb (U21234)
posted 33 minutes ago
Lukaku is a very very good striker but suffers from a complete lack of service at united

With players like Hazard and KDB he scores for fun for Belgium

If we had the likes of Giggs, Scholes and Beckham delivering balls for him he’d be scoring huge amounts of goals per season for us.
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Maybe if he dragged his heavy carcass around the pitch a bit more his teammates may be able to provide a bit of service. Secondly yes hus international record is good but have a look at the opponents he has scored against. Just like at United he can score against the chaff however struggles against top opposition.
Russia
Holland
Croatia
Luxembourg
Sweden
usa
Iceland
Portugal
Switzerland
Finland
Norway
Ireland
Cyprus
Bosnia
Estonia
Greece
Gibraltar
Mexico
Japan
Saudi arabia
Egypt
Costa rica
Panama
Tunisia
Scotland
Hardly a great list
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True.

Also, watching him at the world cup - he would've walked the golden boot if he had the first touch of a professional footballer.

I always find it interesting that Zlatan didn't really suffer from this lack of service from the very same teammates.
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Well, he did. He suffered from long goal droughts for us
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That goal drought was down to some horrendous finishing Robb. He was in terrible form in front of goal and scored 1 goal out of 49 shots! More than half the number of shots Lukaku had in the PL all season.

posted on 14/10/18

comment by Nobbbbbbbb (U21234)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Under The Bridge (U21614)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Nobbbbbbbb (U21234)
posted 1 hour, 56 minutes ago
Lukaku is a very very good striker but suffers from a complete lack of service at united

With players like Hazard and KDB he scores for fun for Belgium

If we had the likes of Giggs, Scholes and Beckham delivering balls for him he’d be scoring huge amounts of goals per season for us.
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That's a moot point because Fergie wouldn't have signed him in the first place.
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I think he would have. Lukaku at Everton was one of the best strikers in the league. I think SAF would have preferred Kane but with him being unsellable SAF May well have gone for Lukaku. Fits his signing profile
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I would imagine if Fergie stayed he would have a better striker in place already and even if he didn't, i highly doubt someone who refused to pay Eden Hazard agent fee's would have coughed up what Mino wanted.

comment by Elvis (U7425)

posted on 14/10/18

comment by Under The Bridge (U21614)
posted 21 seconds ago

comment by Nobbbbbbbb (U21234)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Under The Bridge (U21614)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Nobbbbbbbb (U21234)
posted 1 hour, 56 minutes ago
Lukaku is a very very good striker but suffers from a complete lack of service at united

With players like Hazard and KDB he scores for fun for Belgium

If we had the likes of Giggs, Scholes and Beckham delivering balls for him he’d be scoring huge amounts of goals per season for us.
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That's a moot point because Fergie wouldn't have signed him in the first place.
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I think he would have. Lukaku at Everton was one of the best strikers in the league. I think SAF would have preferred Kane but with him being unsellable SAF May well have gone for Lukaku. Fits his signing profile
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I would imagine if Fergie stayed he would have a better striker in place already and even if he didn't, i highly doubt someone who refused to pay Eden Hazard agent fee's would have coughed up what Mino wanted.
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I think SAF would have just played Rashford up top.

posted on 14/10/18

Dunno, SAF never really had much history playing youth players up top. He often went for the proven product - at Welbecks cost in 12/13

comment by Elvis (U7425)

posted on 14/10/18

comment by Nobbbbbbbb (U21234)
posted 8 minutes ago

Dunno, SAF never really had much history playing youth players up top. He often went for the proven product - at Welbecks cost in 12/13

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We haven't really had that many good forwards come through though. Welbeck was decent, but not top drawer unfortunately.

posted on 14/10/18

It’s easy to say he’s not good enough now but Welbecks season in 11/12 was better than any season than Rashford has had for us and while at the time I wanted RVP for that short term fix and it did work, I feel Welbeck might have had a big season for us in 12/13 with no RVP there.

Obviously I see the Martial/Sanchez parallels here but I just think managers when under immense pressure often go for the proven route

comment by Elvis (U7425)

posted on 14/10/18

I did feel a bit bad for Welbs, but he has never been quite good enough to be a regular at United. 76 career goals at the age of 27 says it all really. Rashford has 34 so far and I would say that his performances in 15/16, when he was actually playing as a striker, were as good as Welbeck in 11/12. He just didn't have as much of the season to go at. Jose coming in and playing him mainly wide hasn't helped. I think that he would have at least twice as many career goals had LVG remained at the club.

posted on 14/10/18

comment by Manc Python (U17527)
posted 16 minutes ago
comment by Nobbbbbbbb (U21234)
posted 33 minutes ago
Lukaku is a very very good striker but suffers from a complete lack of service at united

With players like Hazard and KDB he scores for fun for Belgium

If we had the likes of Giggs, Scholes and Beckham delivering balls for him he’d be scoring huge amounts of goals per season for us.
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Maybe if he dragged his heavy carcass around the pitch a bit more his teammates may be able to provide a bit of service. Secondly yes hus international record is good but have a look at the opponents he has scored against. Just like at United he can score against the chaff however struggles against top opposition.
Russia
Holland
Croatia
Luxembourg
Sweden
usa
Iceland
Portugal
Switzerland
Finland
Norway
Ireland
Cyprus
Bosnia
Estonia
Greece
Gibraltar
Mexico
Japan
Saudi arabia
Egypt
Costa rica
Panama
Tunisia
Scotland
Hardly a great list
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To be fair, there are quite a lot of decent teams in there.

And isn't that the same for all international strikers? They all play more qualifying fixtures than anything else, and for a top seeded side like Belgium, that'd mean lots of matches against European cannon fodder.

It's not like he'd get to face up against the likes of Germany, Spain or France very often, let alone Brazil or Argentina.

posted on 14/10/18

comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 3 hours, 37 minutes ago
comment by Arouna Jagielka oooh I wanna take ya, Heitinga Nikica come on pretty mama (U1308)
posted 1 hour, 20 minutes ago
Lukaku and his agent strike again.

Great player, happy to be shot of him.
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He doesn't have the same agent anymore
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Has the same attitude then.

posted on 14/10/18

comment by Nobbbbbbbb (U21234)
posted 3 hours, 20 minutes ago
Lukaku is a very very good striker but suffers from a complete lack of service at united

With players like Hazard and KDB he scores for fun for Belgium

If we had the likes of Giggs, Scholes and Beckham delivering balls for him he’d be scoring huge amounts of goals per season for us.
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I wouldn’t say he is a very very good striker robb, more a very effective one IF he has the right type of service.

He needs to play in a side that is quick and direct, and his hold up play and linking of play isn’t the best. You need to play him in behind in the channels and then get a lot of quality delivery from wide areas.

Problem is playing for united teams will drop deeper and condense the space between midfield and defence, and defence and keeper. So there’s not a lot of space to run into.

His goal return is decent but i just don’t think he’s quite good enough to lead united to titles personally.

posted on 14/10/18

We can win titles with Lukaku - an average season in terms of goals scored last season for him got us to as many points as Leicester won the title with

With City in the league the mission is harder. For that you need Lukaku to be scoring loads of goals but you also need support goals either side of him and at least 20 from midfield

If I had to list the top 10 problems United face right now Lukaku is right down the bottom

posted on 14/10/18

comment by Nobbbbbbbb (U21234)
posted 3 minutes ago
We can win titles with Lukaku - an average season in terms of goals scored last season for him got us to as many points as Leicester won the title with

With City in the league the mission is harder. For that you need Lukaku to be scoring loads of goals but you also need support goals either side of him and at least 20 from midfield

If I had to list the top 10 problems United face right now Lukaku is right down the bottom
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Exactly.

Getting the ball in to him - or anyone else playing up top for that matter - quickly enough in dangerous areas is much more of a concern.

posted on 14/10/18

And isn't that the same for all international strikers? They all play more qualifying fixtures than anything else, and for a top seeded side like Belgium, that'd mean lots of matches against European cannon fodder.

It's not like he'd get to face up against the likes of Germany, Spain or France very often, let alone Brazil or Argentina
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That's besides the point though.

The argument that Lukaku scores a lot for Belgium - so his struggles at United must be down to the supporting cast - clearly doesn't tell the whole story, as a lot of the teams in that list would probably struggle in the championship.

I'd agree there is some truth to it, as the way we set up is detrimental to each and every one of our attacking players. But, going back to the Ibra argument, there is a clear gap between Lukaku and the very elite strikers. Ibra got better service than Lukaku because his movement was just streets ahead. I don't see how anyone who has seen the 2 of them live can argue against that.

As I said earlier, I don't actually mind Lukaku. He just doesn't warrant this untouchable status he's currently got within the squad.

posted on 14/10/18

Don't get me wrong, I'd have him back in a flash, but not at the expense of Richarlison.

He's big, strong, quick, and know's where the goal is, but he's got no trickery, if he's in a tight position he'll blast it rather than try and bamboozle the defenders.

For such a big guy I thought he was useless at winning aerial battles, Naismith won more and he's only 5ft 8. Fellaini, now he won everything in the air when he played for us.

posted on 14/10/18

Going back to the OP, I don’t know why the comments have caused any ill feeling. Did anyone expect him to be at United the rest of his life? If he wants to play in Serie A one day then fair enough. I expect Pogba and DDG to one day play in La Liga

posted on 14/10/18

comment by Nobbbbbbbb (U21234)
posted 11 minutes ago
Going back to the OP, I don’t know why the comments have caused any ill feeling. Did anyone expect him to be at United the rest of his life? If he wants to play in Serie A one day then fair enough. I expect Pogba and DDG to one day play in La Liga
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I understand why the OP is cheesed off, if he wants to play in Serie A then fair-doos, but don't blab about it to all and sundry, it's disrespectful.

comment by Shugs (U14253)

posted on 14/10/18

comment by rosso is facking happy (U17054)
posted 30 minutes ago
comment by Nobbbbbbbb (U21234)
posted 3 minutes ago
We can win titles with Lukaku - an average season in terms of goals scored last season for him got us to as many points as Leicester won the title with

With City in the league the mission is harder. For that you need Lukaku to be scoring loads of goals but you also need support goals either side of him and at least 20 from midfield

If I had to list the top 10 problems United face right now Lukaku is right down the bottom
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Exactly.

Getting the ball in to him - or anyone else playing up top for that matter - quickly enough in dangerous areas is much more of a concern.
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Getting him or any other striker into dangerous areas rather than playing with their backs to goal is even more of a concern...

posted on 14/10/18

I think Lukaku is decent and is far from being our main issue. However, at times, he seems like he needs a rocket up his backside. He has flashes where he looks unplayable when using his pace and power but, at other times, he's so static when the ball is played into him and the defender can nick it from him.

It's true we don't exactly play to his strengths but perhaps getting rested/dropped for some games may do him and United good.

posted on 14/10/18

Lukaku isn't United's main problem. Its the way Jose deploys him which is a major problem

posted on 14/10/18

Serial A is a step up in class from the EPL, it’s nice to see he has ambition, he will make less money but become better as a player!!

comment by IAmMe (U18491)

posted on 14/10/18

comment by Nobbbbbbbb (U21234)
posted 1 hour, 20 minutes ago
We can win titles with Lukaku - an average season in terms of goals scored last season for him got us to as many points as Leicester won the title with

With City in the league the mission is harder. For that you need Lukaku to be scoring loads of goals but you also need support goals either side of him and at least 20 from midfield

If I had to list the top 10 problems United face right now Lukaku is right down the bottom
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Probably nearer 20.

Lukaku is one over the few plus points about the club at the moment

comment by IAmMe (U18491)

posted on 14/10/18

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posted on 14/10/18

Lukaku is a player whom I find inmensely frustrating. He was accused of being a poor footballer when we signed gim. But in the second half of last season his build up play improved immeasurably, and even when he didn't score, he did a lot of good things.

But in recent games, I've seen him actually appear to make runs away from the ball and his head seems to be down. He's always been a confidence player, the fact he scores in bursts is indicative of that. But running and hiding on the pitch is unacceptable, and I think he's been doing that a bit for United lately. Disappointing, as I actually rate him a lot higher than a lot of our fans on here, and I sympathise with him for the awful service he gets at times

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